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Looks like it's his second year on staff there, so second game in Austin (I don't remember last year's game).  Looked happy and good for his age, unlike some of our assistants who've aged 6 years in the last 6 weeks.  Just took a glance at his resume, he's been at some quality programs and had professional success. 

Another thing we got fucked on with Beard...he was actually doing a solid job (post-Covid) of bringing in former players and coaches to be around the program/recruits more.  Shake said he wanted to, but never really did it.  I remember TJ and Buckman and a few others not in the league anymore in the back of his press conference all hyped up, some had driven in that morning from all points Texas.  Talking about how great it was gonna be to get back into the mix.  Obviously Terry can't do that mid-season, but just another kick in the nuts I was reminded of by Rencher.  

But, we've looked better than I thought since Beard was effectively dismissed before Rice game.  Lotta hoops to play yet, but yeah---this one is a must win.  

Still early, but a decently objective bracketology from CBS posted after lunch:  (us as #2 in Midwest with Alabama)  

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bracketology-struggling-kansas-holds-on-to-a-no-1-seed-in-ncaa-tournament-bracket-projection/

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2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Looks like it's his second year on staff there, so second game in Austin (I don't remember last year's game).  Looked happy and good for his age, unlike some of our assistants who've aged 6 years in the last 6 weeks.  Just took a glance at his resume, he's been at some quality programs and had professional success. 

Another thing we got fucked on with Beard...he was actually doing a solid job (post-Covid) of bringing in former players and coaches to be around the program/recruits more.  Shake said he wanted to, but never really did it.  I remember TJ and Buckman and a few others not in the league anymore in the back of his press conference all hyped up, some had driven in that morning from all points Texas.  Talking about how great it was gonna be to get back into the mix.  Obviously Terry can't do that mid-season, but just another kick in the nuts I was reminded of by Rencher.  

But, we've looked better than I thought since Beard was effectively dismissed before Rice game.  Lotta hoops to play yet, but yeah---this one is a must win.  

Still early, but a decently objective bracketology from CBS posted after lunch:  (us as #2 in Midwest with Alabama)  

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bracketology-struggling-kansas-holds-on-to-a-no-1-seed-in-ncaa-tournament-bracket-projection/

 

This is what I’m hoping the new coach does, regardless of who he is. The culture thing was a great, great selling point to recruits and fans. 

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we've already got two losses in conference and we still have four games against KU and BU, plus K State away, TCU away, and TTU away. i cannot see us going 5-2 in those games, and there's no guarantee we win the other three remaining games. i really can't imagine his team winning the league.

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12 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

we've already got two losses in conference and we still have four games against KU and BU, plus K State away, TCU away, and TTU away. i cannot see us going 5-2 in those games, and there's no guarantee we win the other three remaining games. i really can't imagine his team winning the league.

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No reason at this point to think any of the top half couldn't win it all. KU is very vulnerable and there's no way to predict how it will all shake out. Everyone still has many tough games that could go either way. Hell, if KState loses in Lubbock and Morgantown it wouldn't really surprise me.

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The games that will clarify where Texas stands lie before us. We beat the bottom half teams in some nail biters. About 2 weeks from now we will know if Texas is a middle of the pack big12 team or a contender for top or second spots and a top 4 tournament seed.

We need Hunter, Allen and Mitchell to get back to consistent, smart play within their roles. Carr and Rice are carrying more of the load than they should be with a team this skilled on paper. Disu has been a pleasant surprise with the extended minutes Terry has been giving him. Bishop has been able decent.

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I don’t think this Kansas team is really all that great or talented compared to their usual squads.  Self has won the league several times when that was the case before, of course, but I don’t really see it.  They lean on Jalen Wilson like he’s Kevin Durant or something, and I don’t even know that he’s an NBA player. 

I think Baylor and TCU might actually have the best teams even though they’re currently on the 3 loss line.  Pre-Beard drama I would have put us up there as the top team in the conference and maybe the country.  We actually have responded better than I thought we would after that KSU game, but I still think we’ve taken too much of a step back to really be a contender to win the league.  We’ve had a pretty friendly first part of the schedule, by Big 12 standards anyway.

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45 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I don’t think this Kansas team is really all that great or talented compared to their usual squads.  Self has won the league several times when that was the case before, of course, but I don’t really see it.  They lean on Jalen Wilson like he’s Kevin Durant or something, and I don’t even know that he’s an NBA player. 

I think Baylor and TCU might actually have the best teams even though they’re currently on the 3 loss line.  Pre-Beard drama I would have put us up there as the top team in the conference and maybe the country.  We actually have responded better than I thought we would after that KSU game, but I still think we’ve taken too much of a step back to really be a contender to win the league.  We’ve had a pretty friendly first part of the schedule, by Big 12 standards anyway.

#8 in conference SOS to this point. 

 

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it is shocking how poorly we defend the three since beard left. if anyone out there still wonders just how much of it is the coaches and how much of it is the players, look no further than 2022-23 Texas. you subtract one person from a program of dozens of players, coaches, trainers, support staff, etc, and the team goes from a team with a clear identity based around intense, smothering defense, and a team that is a favorite to make the FF, to a team with no identity that can give up 80, 90, 100+ points every night. it's unreal. Beard was everything to this program. we'll never replace that stupid SOB.

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Good little read from a couple days ago. 

https://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball/opinion/2023/01/23/unfinished-business-torontos-marcus-carr-leads-texas-longhorns-with-assist-from-former-raptor.html

Carr's numbers on the season so far:

17.6 ppg .511 2P% .415 3P% .803 FT% 

4.3 apg 2.9 rpg 1.8 spg 1.8 tov

It's been awhile since someone had a season this good at Texas. He should be in contention for an AA team let alone B12 honors.

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I was crushed with the Beard saga. Totally pulled the rug out from me. I had to mourn the loss of what I had imagined would be: years of enjoying a successful program with him at the helm.

Now, I’m pretty much over that and just enjoying the games. The team has responded better than I expected. Losing Beard is weirdly freeing in terms of expectations; we’re now as much of an underdog that #10 in the country could be. Instead of anxiously waiting for our favorite to falter, I’m seeing a group deal with adversity and succeeding.

All said, I can’t complain too much at this point. 

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29 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

There are some pieces that could stick around next season. 

Cunningham, Hunter, Mitchell, Morris, Brumbaugh, and Anamekwe gives you a decent starting base. 

Maybe I'll be wrong, but just really hard for me to believe even 3 of those guys you mentioned will be back. I certainly don't think both Mitchell and Morris will return for second seasons and Hunter coming back when he seems to be the player affected most by the Beard departure feels like a pipe dream.

You just don't get that sort of continuity with a coaching change. I have a similar feeling towards the two signees. I'll be absolutely thrilled if just one of Holland or Johnson are on campus come June.

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2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Maybe I'll be wrong, but just really hard for me to believe even 3 of those guys you mentioned will be back. I certainly don't think both Mitchell and Morris will return for second seasons and Hunter coming back when he seems to be the player affected most by the Beard departure feels like a pipe dream.

You just don't get that sort of continuity with a coaching change. I have a similar feeling towards the two signees. I'll be absolutely thrilled if just one of Holland or Johnson are on campus come June.

Hunter came here because of NIL. Now is he worth the money he will want to return? Not sure. 

I don't think Mitchell or Morris are NBA risks anymore. Mitchell is starting to look like a 2nd round pick (at best) based on mock drafts and Morris is no threat at all of being drafted. Mitchell has been campaigning for Terry to get the head coaching gig. It's why I think there's a ton of value in keeping Terry. IMO Texas would get Mitchell and Morris back next year and potentially keep Holland if Terry remains on staff as an assistant. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Definitely don't see Hunter coming back at all.  

Hunter is going to the school that gives him the most NIL money. It was public knowledge that he came here in big part because of NIL. 

He definitely isn't going to the NBA. Now the question is how much money does Texas want to allocate to a player that's struggled this year? 

 

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4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Hunter came here because of NIL. Now is he worth the money he will want to return? Not sure. 

I don't think Mitchell or Morris are NBA risks anymore. Mitchell is starting to look like a 2nd round pick (at best) based on mock drafts and Morris is no threat at all of being drafted. Mitchell has been campaigning for Terry to get the head coaching gig. It's why I think there's a ton of value in keeping Terry. IMO Texas would get Mitchell and Morris back next year and potentially keep Holland if Terry remains on staff as an assistant. 

 

That's fine.  He ain't worth the NIL as it stands.  He's clearly unhappy. 

Who the new coach's assistants are should not be influenced by Mitchell and/or Morris sticking around.  Do not agree with forcing an assistant onto a head coach.  they get to pick their staff.  

With the portal, that new coach can go make whatever team he wants.

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8 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Hunter came here because of NIL. Now is he worth the money he will want to return? Not sure. 

I don't think Mitchell or Morris are NBA risks anymore. Mitchell is starting to look like a 2nd round pick (at best) based on mock drafts and Morris is no threat at all of being drafted. Mitchell has been campaigning for Terry to get the head coaching gig. It's why I think there's a ton of value in keeping Terry. IMO Texas would get Mitchell and Morris back next year and potentially keep Holland if Terry remains on staff as an assistant. 

 

Agreed that Mitchell and Morris aren't NBA risks, but Morris in particular is someone who is barely playing right now and Terry doesn't seem to trust him a ton (which of course why would he when he has 3 senior guards). Morris has played 10 or fewer minutes in 6 of 8 Big 12 games. Maybe he sees his role being expanded next year and will stick around, but I don't think this is the freshman season he envisioned in addition to his own off-court issues. 

And to me anyone who is barely seeing the court right now is at risk of bouncing or getting processed by the next staff. We are going to have to probably take 6 or more transfers this offseason. If you are Rowan Brumbaugh taking a redshirt you have to be antsy wondering what is ahead. The new staff is going to have zero film to evaluate you on and there is a better chance than not you will be buried on the depth chart again next season.

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11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That's fine.  He ain't worth the NIL as it stands.  He's clearly unhappy. 

Who the new coach's assistants are should not be influenced by Mitchell and/or Morris sticking around.  Do not agree with forcing an assistant onto a head coach.  they get to pick their staff.  

With the portal, that new coach can go make whatever team he wants.

I don't think you should force an assistant on the next coach but if keeping Terry meant Morris, Mitchell, and Holland were all on the roster next year I would hope the next coach is rational enough to understand that's extremely valuable. 

He's 1 of 3 assistants and if it doesn't work for a year then you move on. 

Assuming Terry doesn't get a P5 level coaching gig I would bet that Terry is on staff next year regardless of the coach. 

 

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I'll worry about next year when the time is right, but if I was setting a line for scholarship players on the team this year who will be on the roster next year it would be like 3.5 I would probably lean the under even with the assumption that Cunningham is very likely back.

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Saw on Reddit:

Texas has 6 Q1 wins (KU and Purdue lead with 7) and 2 Q2 wins, giving us 8 Q1+Q2 wins.  KU leads with 11, Alabama and UCLA have 10, Purdue and Xavier have 9 and Texas is in a big clump of teams with 8 (Arizona, ISU, Baylor, TCU, Marquette, UH, Gonzaga, Tenn, Auburn, Boise St) 

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Texas’ acting head coach, Rodney Terry, only knows one way forward
Brian Hamilton
Jan 26, 2023
 
For six years, a team five hours north occasionally grabbed Steve Fisher’s attention, and not because it was next on the schedule. San Diego State’s then head coach respected how Fresno State played, tough-minded and agenda-free, but mostly Fisher liked Rodney Terry. He liked Terry’s firm-but-fair approach. He liked that he couldn’t tell whether Fresno State won or lost in the handshake line, since Terry was convivial either way. He enjoyed their chats about program-building at Mountain West conference meetings. When Terry opted for a change and took a job at UTEP, Fisher wished Terry good luck. Told him to reach out anytime.
One of those anytimes arrived in late December.
Terry, abruptly, was now the acting head coach for a Texas men’s basketball team with massive aspirations. Fisher — who retired in 2017 — knew a little about the dynamic, winning a national title at Michigan in that role. So Terry placed the call, but Fisher asked the questions: Have you talked to the school president? Can you count on your staff to back you? Did you contact the families of every player? “He said, ‘You know me, Steve,’” Fisher recalls from his back deck in southern California. “’I’m just going about my business of coaching this team.’”
Everything is about who the next Texas coach will be, but the first thing is about preventing this 10th-ranked Texas team from derailing into a ravine.
That job — for sure — belongs to Rodney Terry.
As for why he’s been equipped to manage the upheaval after Chris Beard’s December arrest on charges of domestic family violence and eventual firing, and hold together a promising season, people who know him generally start by arguing this: Terry is not a 54-year-old temp. He’s a former high school coach with a firm grasp of who he is and who he isn’t, a grinder sitting in the big college hoops chair for the third time, operating off a highly personal investment in the program and the city he’s always expected to call his permanent home.
To ensure the trapdoor stays latched shut for the next two months, Texas basketball needs someone capable of round-the-clock vigilance in the gym and outside of it. Someone self-aware enough to know it’s about him and not about him, all at once. “He worked his way up, the way it’s not always done today,” says Tennessee coach Rick Barnes, who had Terry on his bench at Texas for nine seasons. “I would say he’s a guy that was never born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Everything he’s got, he’s worked for.”
It’s a predetermined outcome, yes: Ask people who are fond of someone to talk about that someone, and you’re not likely to hear a discouraging word. Fair enough. There are corners of the college basketball universe that are more cynical about Terry as the best long-term solution to a problem nobody expected to have.
Put away the telescope, though, and so far, not so bad: With Terry in charge, Texas has won 10 of 12 games heading into a Big 12/SEC Challenge matchup at Tennessee on Saturday. Those who know the man leading the Longhorns see the residue of Terry’s touch, developed over time and through experience. Unflinching honesty, obsession with details and a demand for accountability, balanced with a very human touch and never-had-a-bad-day energy.
Clarity of purpose, for a program needing an emergency dose of it. “From Day 1 you step into his program, you always know where you stand,” says Troy assistant coach Byron Jones, who worked for Terry at Fresno State. “You’re not guessing. He’d always say, guys, we’re going to be very transparent about what we’re doing around here. We’re never going to let you live a lie.”
From a tactical standpoint, there wasn’t much question about how Rodney Terry’s Texas would function. He returned to Austin before the 2021-22 season, in part, to run the defense. It is and has always been his oyster. “He’s a meticulous guy in terms of film study,” says East Carolina assistant coach Nick Matson, who worked for Terry at both of his previous head coaching stops. “He’s going to grind until he finds an angle.” Though Terry got results last year — the Longhorns finished 14th in adjusted defensive efficiency, per KenPom — there was no guarantee a roster set adrift in December would commit at the same level.
As it happens, even with a 116-point onslaught by Kansas State in the mix, Texas’ defensive rating of 114.3 across Terry’s first 10 games would rank in the 93rd percentile nationally if extrapolated over a season, per CBB Analytics. It essentially aligns with the Longhorns’ results over all of 2022-23 to date; there’s been no change in behavior with the change in voices. To those looking in from the outside, it suggests the players have bought into — or remained bought into — Terry’s core tenet of defensive accountability.
Guard Your Yard.
“Guarding the ball,” Jones says, when asked to explain the concept behind the catchphrase. “Guarding your man. Being responsible for not being bailed out because you got screened, not being bailed out because you didn’t know there was a switch. You’re not letting a guy just do what he wants to do.”
There’s of course much more to this than a solid game plan, and it’s arguable the most important parts of Terry’s current job description have little to do with game-to-game strategy. He has an old team that has seen some things — the Longhorns are one of the top 10 most experienced teams in the country — but nothing like what’s happened this winter in Austin. Terry had to perform some emotional triage and then monitor his group’s wounds for signs of infection.
A first step: reassure the roster the walls aren’t tumbling down. Comfort them with the plan. Those who’ve worked for him note that Terry sketches out practices down to the minute, that he’ll have a detailed strategy for everything from breakfast menus to gameday dress codes to community service events. Creating a structure is, arguably, the easy part for Texas’ acting head coach. Discipline is a reflex.
“His organization keeps everybody on the same page,” says East Carolina head coach Michael Schwartz, who worked alongside Terry at Texas and then for him at Fresno State. “There is no gray area about what you’re doing. Whatever it may be, he’s got a blueprint in his mind.”
But there is a need to ensure the players still enjoy themselves, under the circumstances. That they don’t feel like they’re stuffed in a closet for three months. The head coach has to look like he’s having a good day, every day. With Terry, it’s evidently not a stretch. “Man, look, I ain’t never seen R.T. super mad,” says former Texas great T.J. Ford, who overlapped with Terry for only one year in Austin, which was nevertheless enough for them to talk regularly to this day. “R.T. is the same guy. R.T. is always going to be upbeat. R.T. is always going to be a positive person. That energy — that’s what he’s about.”
Empathy, too, is a prerequisite, when you’re a healer on the fly. And those who know Terry say he’s intent on connecting and communicating with everyone who touches a program. There are no closed doors. “He’d tell you he was taught to respect people, whoever they are,” Barnes says. When Fresno State player Braeden Anderson suffered a broken neck in a deadly car accident in September 2013, Terry stood in as the director of the recovery plan, walking Anderson’s parents — who were from Alberta, Canada — through the vagaries of the American health care system while also arranging for Anderson to have surgery at Stanford Medical. Anderson was back on the floor for Fresno State 14 months after it wasn’t clear he’d walk again. “Rodney helped the family make the decision, not based on basketball, but for the rest of his life,” Jones says.
It’s the sort of humanity that allows Terry to push, hard, when needed. It’s how a player such as Marvelle Harris goes from borderline unknown recruit to Mountain West Player of the Year in four seasons, working through the death of his father but never falling off the track, due mainly to Terry hammering home what Harris needed to do to be great and honor his father’s memory. “He can have hard, difficult conversations in his staff, he can have hard, difficult conversations with his players, and even if it’s what either party doesn’t want to hear, Rodney is not a grudge-holder,” Schwartz says. “Rodney knows how to handle those and not get over-emotional. He never lets an oil spill be bigger than it needs to be.”
When you need the best possible results from a group whose world has capsized, it’s a helpful balance to be able to strike.
“You don’t hear any negativity coming out of the Texas program, of guys that are going south or doing their own thing,” Jones says. “That shows he’s very well-respected. There’s enough demand, but enough care about their well-being that those guys will play hard for you.”
How this plays out for Terry is harder to gauge.
Not long after being elevated to replace Beard, Terry unsurprisingly put in a call to Barnes. After kicking off the conversation with a hilarious oversimplification — “He said, ‘What do you think?’” Barnes recalls — Terry mentioned that he was worried anyone might call this an audition. “He was concerned about the players thinking that he was looking at this as an opportunity,” Barnes says. “He didn’t want anybody to perceive that.”
It is, in reality, absolutely an opportunity. An audition. For something. And that creates a tension, like it or not. “It is definitely not easy,” Fisher says. “There will be that faction of people that will say, well, the other guy would’ve done it better. That’s the noise — it’s easy to say to someone, don’t hear it, don’t listen to it, don’t pay attention to it. And it sometimes can be hard to do. But you can’t get caught up in that.”
There is a preferred ending for the man who played across town at St. Edward’s University and who bought a house in Austin during the pandemic, despite having an office address in El Paso at the time. “He bleeds burnt orange, period,” Schwartz says. “That’s been Rodney from Day 1 when I met him.” The Longhorns’ on-floor success has to continue, naturally; Terry won’t have a chance if the bottom drops out. Also critical: Terry’s ability to demonstrate to decision-makers that he’s well-positioned as a Texas native to recruit a talent-rich state and bring aboard high-end talent to compete in the viper’s nest of the SEC, imminently.
“There’s no more relentless and dynamic recruiter than Rodney Terry,” Matson says. “You know how it is, a lot of people’s days end at a certain time, like maybe when practice is over. His day is only beginning. He’s going to be on the phone every night until nine, 10 o’clock with recruits, parents, AAU coaches. He works it at the highest level.”
Still, Terry can’t just decide to be the permanent head coach. He can’t really even publicly say he wants to be, without inviting a few potshots about his focus. He also has to overcome the innate Texas urge to respond to a big problem with a bigger answer. As one coaching agent theorized, apprising the dynamic in Austin: If Beard’s arrest didn’t happen and he won 30 games and left for an NBA job after this season, would Texas replace him with Rodney Terry?
Those in Terry’s corner ask another question.
“How many people could pick up these pieces?” Ford says.
“Would he love to have that job? There’s no doubt,” Barnes says. “Anybody in that situation would. Who knows? You just don’t know. The fact of the matter is, I assure you, he’s working at it as hard as anybody in the country can work at it.”
It’s all he can do, really. It’s what Fisher learned three decades back and what he left Terry with before he hung up the phone in late December: Be yourself, Fisher advised. It’s been good to you so far, and it will be down the road. And everything will work out from there. Maybe that’s in Austin. Maybe not. But he’ll be on a bench, somewhere, either way.
For now, those who know Rodney Terry guess he’s not spending too much time on maybes. He has a team to coach.

 

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there's a lot ofarguing going on in the okie state thread about whether or not Texas MBB has fallen off under rodney, and whether or not our expectations should be adjusted without beard. inexplicably, i've found myself debating this point with more than a few people who all vehemently disagree that expectations should be changed now that RT is in charge, so i'll address that the simplest way i can:

shaka smart is a better coach than rodney terry. point blank and the period. i understand that we are currently tied for first in the league with RT as our HC, however, two of our three losses are to the other two teams tied for first in the league, and we have zero upset wins to this point. the idea that we are going to compete for and possibly win a conference title when a)we have all of our toughest games ahead of us and b)we are being coached by someone who just plain unfit to coach at this level, is not an idea i can believe in. of course i hope that this contention is ultimately proven wrong, but i will absolutely we more surprised by a 13-5 or 12-4 league championship run that i would be to see us ultimately finish 3rd or 4th in the league. 

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47 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

but i will absolutely we more surprised by a 13-5 or 12-4 12-6 league championship run

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that i would be to see us ultimately finish 3rd or 4th in the league. 

Me too.  There are pretty much 6 teams in "contention".  It will be brutal for everyone.

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1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

there's a lot ofarguing going on in the okie state thread about whether or not Texas MBB has fallen off under rodney, and whether or not our expectations should be adjusted without beard. inexplicably, i've found myself debating this point with more than a few people who all vehemently disagree that expectations should be changed now that RT is in charge, so i'll address that the simplest way i can:

shaka smart is a better coach than rodney terry. point blank and the period. i understand that we are currently tied for first in the league with RT as our HC, however, two of our three losses are to the other two teams tied for first in the league, and we have zero upset wins to this point. the idea that we are going to compete for and possibly win a conference title when a)we have all of our toughest games ahead of us and b)we are being coached by someone who just plain unfit to coach at this level, is not an idea i can believe in. of course i hope that this contention is ultimately proven wrong, but i will absolutely we more surprised by a 13-5 or 12-4 league championship run that i would be to see us ultimately finish 3rd or 4th in the league. 

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3 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

not really. it's the topic du jour around here and it's a divisive topic. as long as people here disagree about the subject then it's going to be talked about.

The topic consist of you telling us your very strong opinion on the matter and when disagreed with, reiterating that very strong opinion in a different way.

And then you had to throw in the Shaka Smart statement for shock value. Shaka Smart sucked ass as a coach at Texas and trying to compare Rodney Terry to him is a stupid exercise that is useless.

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2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

The topic consist of you telling us your very strong opinion on the matter and when disagreed with, reiterating that very strong opinion in a different way.

And then you had to throw in the Shaka Smart statement for shock value. Shaka Smart sucked ass as a coach at Texas and trying to compare Rodney Terry to him is a stupid exercise that is useless.

shock value? it's a plainly true statement. they've both been d-1 HC's at multiple places and shaka has had far more success than RT. 

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Terry vs Shaka as HC's:

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"shock value" he says. if you and jimmy could stop with all of the needlessly angry, whiny, belligerent responses and then we could actually talk like adults about these topics. i won't hold my breath though. 

i mean jesus christ, rodney terry is supposed to be an assistant right now while shaka is the HC if a top 10 team and you girls are just beside yourselves with the idea that i'm making some "shock value" post by saying that shaka's a better coach. grow up. 

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how i see the rest of the schedule:

@Tennessee- loss

BU- toss up, but i'll say win 

@K State- loss

@KU- loss 

WVU- win

@TTU- win

OU- win 

ISU- win

@BU- loss

@TCU- loss 

KU- win

that leaves us at 23-8 (12-6), which i'm guessing leaves us with a 3rd place (or T-2nd) finish in the league and a 3 seed. if it does play out that way it will have to be considered a successful season after everything this group has been through. and a 3 seed with this group should have us pencilling in the S16, one win away from the E8. i'd take that all day long. i hope it happens.

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7 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

how i see the rest of the schedule:

@Tennessee- loss

BU- toss up, but i'll say win 

@K State- loss

@KU- loss 

WVU- win

@TTU- win

OU- win 

ISU- win

@BU- loss

@TCU- loss 

KU- win

that leaves us at 23-8 (12-6), which i'm guessing leaves us with a 3rd place (or T-2nd) finish in the league and a 3 seed. if it does play out that way it will have to be considered a successful season after everything this group has been through. and a 3 seed with this group should have us pencilling in the S16, one win away from the E8. i'd take that all day long. i hope it happens.

I’m in agreement with this, although I have us losing to Tech. Those dipshits will be primed and ready to get their first big 12 win over big, bad Texas. They will still be 0-fer but the time our game rolls around (unless they beat Oklahoma state in Stillwater) and would love nothing more than to say “well at least we beat Texas” and they’ll continue to put up billboards in Austin demanding that we schedule them when we leave. Those students will be drunk af throwing at us bottles, Rosa’s tortillas, and their dignity. 

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7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I’m in agreement with this, although I have us losing to Tech. Those dipshits will be primed and ready to get their first big 12 win over big, bad Texas. They will still be 0-fer but the time our game rolls around (unless they beat Oklahoma state in Stillwater) and would love nothing more than to say “well at least we beat Texas” and they’ll continue to put up billboards in Austin demanding that we schedule them when we leave. Those students will be drunk af throwing at us bottles, Rosa’s tortillas, and their dignity. 

Psh what are you talking about? Our resident Cyclone fan already called that Tech will beat ISU on Monday.

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