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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

if quinn came back to UT and beat out arch for the starting position, how would you feel ?

Like I want to fucking punch you in the esophagus.

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1 hour ago, Zeus said:

lol yeah blame the defense when the O can’t put up 20 fucking points and constantly goes 3 and out. 
 

Quinn gave it his all I guess, but it was obvious to anybody really watching that he was never going to win it all. Stacked team and stacked targets but his pocket presence was so far below average it held the offense back late in the year. 
 

Could’ve gave Arch some real snaps instead of pretending he was Tim Tebow, but instead Sark stuck with Quinn and just altered his play calling to try and win with a statue at QB. 
 

Hope Quinn can go somewhere and make lots of money and do well, he seems like a good dude. 

Can’t we hold the defense to the same standard as QE tho. Which is perfection. If we don’t win every game 70-0 what are we doing here. 

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47 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Sark makes mistakes like any HC but he's not regarded and stiffing Manning isn't in the game plan. 

It's a stupid fucking hypothetical that's never happening.

I agree.  Let's discuss hypothetical's that could happen.  What if Sark decides Ol Beantown is the way to go at QB and tells Ewers and Manning to go fuck off and we are going with an unathletic, overweight middle-aged dude who can't throw a ball 20 yards.  How would that make everyone feel?

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

if quinn came back to UT and beat out arch for the starting position, how would you feel ?

the same way if i came back to UT and beat out bijan robinson: impossible

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I agree.  Let's discuss hypothetical's that could happen.  What if Sark decides Ol Beantown is the way to go at QB and tells Ewers and Manning to go fuck off and we are going with an unathletic, overweight middle-aged dude who can't throw a ball 20 yards.  How would that make everyone feel?

I mean, Sark is known for his unique choices and offensive designs and that would certainly be a new wrinkle.

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4 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I agree.  Let's discuss hypothetical's that could happen.  What if Sark decides Ol Beantown is the way to go at QB and tells Ewers and Manning to go fuck off and we are going with an unathletic, overweight middle-aged dude who can't throw a ball 20 yards.  How would that make everyone feel?

Wait why cant you throw the ball 20 yards 

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13 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

What if it guaranteed a national championship ?? 

That's a guarantee nobody can make, not even with VY, let alone Quinn who has choked in back to back semifinals. Stop being regarded. 

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5 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Well, if Ewers can't why should I be able to?  I kid. Kind of.

Look man, I get a new NIL going for you and call it BeannCheese. Catch is I get sideline passes and you put the bug in Sarks ear that as an Italian I would make a great kicker scout.

Maybe racist?

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I don't really see this kid who grew up a Longhorn, originally committed to Texas, left a perennial contender to transfer to a dumpster fire program with a newly-hired alcoholic head coach who crashed and burned at USC, and stayed an extra year despite all the hate from fans because he loves The University and wanted to win a national championship before he left when he would have been a late 3rd-rounder at worst...as transferring and not declaring for the draft in one of the weakest QB drafts in recent history with Drew Allar and Carson Beck electing to return to college. I don't like the kid's politics or his floaty deep passes this season or his dubious choice(s) in NIL--Jeff fucking Davis? So Harvey Weinstein and Mel Gibson didn't offer?--but transferring would be a stupidity of an order of magnitude greater than the other dumb shit.

 

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3 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

I don't really see this kid who grew up a Longhorn, originally committed to Texas, left a perennial contender to transfer to a dumpster fire program with a newly-hired alcoholic head coach who crashed and burned at USC, and stayed an extra year despite all the hate from fans because he loves The University and wanted to win a national championship before he left when he would have been a late 3rd-rounder at worst...as transferring and not declaring for the draft in one of the weakest QB drafts in recent history with Drew Allar and Carson Beck electing to return to college. I don't like the kid's politics or his floaty deep passes this season or his dubious choice(s) in NIL--Jeff fucking Davis? So Harvey Weinstein and Mel Gibson didn't offer?--but transferring would be a stupidity of an order of magnitude greater than the other dumb shit.

 

Pretty much this.  The NIL scuttlebutt is a long game to increase his draft stock. Many NFL GMs aren’t smart.  They’ll figure if someone is willing to pay the guy $6 to $8 million to transfer, we’d better draft him early. 

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2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I’d beck can get 4, Quinn can get 6. Jmo

That is a bold statement. Quinn will get 50% more than Beck. I think Quinn is heading to the NFL, so it doesn’t matter 

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8 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Pretty much this.  The NIL scuttlebutt is a long game to increase his draft stock. Many NFL GMs aren’t smart.  They’ll figure if someone is willing to pay the guy $6 to $8 million to transfer, we’d better draft him early. 

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Between owners, general managers, and head coaches there are around a hundred NFL brainiacs, and I'll be surprised if there aren't five or six who are pretty damn sure they can teach Quinn to throw the long ball and how to check to the weak side run. I reckon one of those five or six will take him by at least the second round.

 

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Imagine another college team seeing Ewers coached by Sarkisian, with a Joe Moore finalist OL that includes an Outland/Lombardi winning Left Tackle, 1,000 yard rusher, TE and WRs that are about to be NFL draft picks, and thinking, "Offer $6 million. We can fix him."

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Quinn has to go pro. He would simply crumble under the media narratives and spotlight next season if he were to transfer. Every game he plays will be measured against Texas and Manning. Don’t make the playoffs?  Stock bottoms out even further. 
 

With the weak QB class, now is the time. 

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8 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Quinn has to go pro. He would simply crumble under the media narratives and spotlight next season if he were to transfer. Every game he plays will be measured against Texas and Manning. Don’t make the playoffs?  Stock bottoms out even further. 

We go through this every year.  The NFL drafts QBs on potential, not college success.  If some team thinks they can fix his issues, they'll take him, and potentiallly very early.  It happens every year.

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We go through this every year.  The NFL drafts QBs on potential, not college success.  If some team thinks they can fix his issues, they'll take him, and potentiallly very early.  It happens every year.

I think his current ceiling is a 2nd round pick if goes this year. If he transfers and has a poor season that sees him drafted on day 3, then he could be fighting for a practice squad gig and zero guaranteed money. 
 

Teams that invest draft capital in players give them longer leashes. The lower the round the shorter the leash. 
 

5th round pick Spencer Rattler signed a 4 year $4 million dollar contract with $336k guaranteed. 
 

It is not just about one season and one paycheck. 
 

If Anthony Richardson (who was infinitely worse than Quinn in college) was drafted in the 5th round instead of the 1st he would already be cut. Instead he will be given every chance in year 3 to start sporting a career completion percentage south of 50%. 
 

Quinn goes now and gets a longer leash. 

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13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Imagine another college team seeing Ewers coached by Sarkisian, with a Joe Moore finalist OL that includes an Outland/Lombardi winning Left Tackle, 1,000 yard rusher, TE and WRs that are about to be NFL draft picks, and thinking, "Offer $6 million. We can fix him."


What if instead of a “Joe Moore finalist OL” that other team had an OL that could open holes for RBs against good opponents and at least get in Jack Sawyer’s way? That could work.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

if quinn came back to UT and beat out arch for the starting position, how would you feel ?

With a brand new starting oline? I’d feel really really bad and our offense would too.

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2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I’d beck can get 4, Quinn can get 6. Jmo

Let's not forget that legend Jackson Arnold got 2M.  IMO 6 isn't crazy at all when you see what some other very average (below average really) QB's have gotten.  

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10 minutes ago, Holy Horn said:


What if instead of a “Joe Moore finalist OL” that other team had an OL that could open holes for RBs against good opponents and at least get in Jack Sawyer’s way? That could work

Notre Dame didn’t have a run longer than 8 yards by a running back vs Georgia. We lead the SEC in yards per rush this year. Which teams do you think have Olines that were so superior to ours this year?

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4 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Arnold got a confirmed 1.9.   How's 4 for Beck crazy?  Arnold was putrid. 

How is this kind of thing confirmed? Who has to disclose this information?

Also LO fucking L at Auburn if remotely true. His commitment graphic was hilarious - all about how highly rated of a recruit he was and his elite 11 finish. For a dude who just started a full season for a blue blood.

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10 minutes ago, ChemicalHorn said:

How is this kind of thing confirmed? Who has to disclose this information?

Also LO fucking L at Auburn if remotely true. His commitment graphic was hilarious - all about how highly rated of a recruit he was and his elite 11 finish. For a dude who just started a full season for a blue blood.

Yeah part of that is definitely Auburn being stupid. I know enough high end boosters at a few programs that aren't Auburn but were willing to play in the million dollar range but were told they're not even close.  Like Miami for example.  tOSU is someone who was just kicking the tires - I know a couple of their boosters, they often kick the tires on their own and take info back to the OSU team.  I'm not saying they wanted him but they're kicking the tires on a lot of different QB's if they don't have a Manning chillin on the bench.  So multiple people were told a million isn't even getting a seat at the table.  And wouldn't you take 1.3/1.4 at say Miami, vs 1.9 at Auburn?  But we all know Auburn is stupid, maybe dumber than aggy.  That's saying a lot. 

edit: sorry, also meant to agree with his graphics and elite 11 brag.  serious small dick vibes...

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7 hours ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

Just posting some numbers from different areas of the draft and their numbers for context of the money available. If he can be near the top of the second round as a draft pick and get similar deal to Levis that seems better than the NIL deal at the college level. It is a gamble that he has place but that is where he has to have faith in himself and his ability while trusting what his team is being told from NFL people. Personally given his injury history I think it is smarter to move on to the NFL where you can work toward your second contract. The best lucrative position that health isn't a concern is backup NFL QB...if he isn't a starting caliber NFL QB he can definitely make a career in the NFL being the backup.

Colt McCoy agrees with you.   He can still play with his kids, and walk to the mailbox.  

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9 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

$6M to risk an injury that ends your career or $1M+ to play one of best/safest jobs in all of sports (also, it's contractually $1M+ per year and a $1M+ signing bonus if he goes round 3, which feels right)? Give me the easy button.

Plus you vest a year earlier if you go

i don’t think he will improve his stock with another year in. Teams know what he can do and what his limitations are. 

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1 hour ago, NashLonghorn said:

Colt McCoy agrees with you.   He can still play with his kids, and walk to the mailbox.  

and spray wasp nests

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A lot of us shit talking tOSU and losing. Damn. We HAVE to get better in the RZ. This should be statistically impossible to have the same issues from last year since this team has been together for 3 years. Maybe I'm wrong, but we have some serious issues, and it's not just because Baxter is injured. We make things harder than they should be. 

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2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Quinn isn’t coming back with most of the OL leaving. He wouldn’t make it through a season.

He's not coming back because the bmd’s and no one else involved with the program would allow it. There’s a 0% chance he’s coming back to Texas, I don’t even understand the speculation he will.  

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He's not coming back because the bmd’s and no one else involved with the program would allow it. There’s a 0% chance he’s coming back to Texas, I don’t even understand the speculation he will.  

There isn’t any real speculation of that.
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Quinn will be one of the most controversial Longhorns to ever put on the burnt orange. Quinn would make some unbelievable throws at times. In between those throws were tons of batted balls, confusing self sacks, the most wacky whimsical turnovers, and horrid wounded duck deep shots. The velocity of his intermediate throws seemed to decrease every season at Texas. I wonder if Turner permanently fucked his AC Joint, like some lingering arthritis. Also no matter the flow of the game, the guy would just go sit on the bench with a look as if he would rather be anywhere else. That being said, he won a shit ton of games and was always a great representative of the university. You really can’t ask much more of a Longhorn athlete. I think we’re all so critical of him at QB because  of the potential of the last two teams, those were legitimate championship windows. It’s hard to imagine Sam not winning a national title at Texas with the 20+ draft picks on the ‘23 and ‘24 rosters. We didn’t need a hero, just a consistent chain mover. 

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Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I'm 100% sure that Quinn beat out Arch this year. Stop being ridiculous. 


But he didn’t. Quinn was named the starter before spring ball even started.  Not that he shouldn’t have been the starter but there wasn’t a QB competition. 
 

Which highlights some of feelings I have  about the offense vs defense when it comes to moving up the depth chart and who gets to play.  Won’t get into that here though.  
 

As far as the draft he should go pro this year.  As critical as we are of him he is still one of the better QBs going into the draft and the league GMs seem legally obligated to draft at least 4 QBs in the first round.  I can’t see him dropping below the 2nd Rd. 

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10 minutes ago, GTJ1982 said:


But he didn’t. Quinn was named the starter before spring ball even started.  Not that he shouldn’t have been the starter but there wasn’t a QB competition. 
 

Which highlights some of feelings I have  about the offense vs defense when it comes to moving up the depth chart and who gets to play.  Won’t get into that here though.  
 

As far as the draft he should go pro this year.  As critical as we are of him he is still one of the better QBs going into the draft and the league GMs seem legally obligated to draft at least 4 QBs in the first round.  I can’t see him dropping below the 2nd Rd. 

He needs to go. This is similar to Jonathan Brooks leaving last year. Last year's RB class was really weak. This years is ridiculously deep. Was a good decision to leave. Quinn needs to leave given how weak the QB class is considered.

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39 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

He needs to go. This is similar to Jonathan Brooks leaving last year. Last year's RB class was really weak. This years is ridiculously deep. Was a good decision to leave. Quinn needs to leave given how weak the QB class is considered.

This is the most sensible take I’ve read in a while.  Not sure what Quinn is going to do when he plays that Rams defense that got after Darnold last night, but that’s not our problem.

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He's going into the NFL and is just letting his teammates "go first" with their announcements because his will be the biggest deal.

I guess we have Campbell, Williams and Trey Moore left to go?

 

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I swear some of you blacked out the Georgia game and it shows. Sure Arch looked all world playing some shit competition, but anyone can do that. 

I'm excited for the Arch generation and all, but some of you need to taper some expectations

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4 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

I swear some of you blacked out the Georgia game and it shows. Sure Arch looked all world playing some shit competition, but anyone can do that. 

I'm excited for the Arch generation and all, but some of you need to taper some expectations

Arch looked the same as Quinn did in that 1st half. Guessing you are blocking out how Quinn looked for the 1st 1.7 quarters

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1 hour ago, GTJ1982 said:


But he didn’t. Quinn was named the starter before spring ball even started.  Not that he shouldn’t have been the starter but there wasn’t a QB competition. 
 

Which highlights some of feelings I have  about the offense vs defense when it comes to moving up the depth chart and who gets to play.  Won’t get into that here though.  
 

As far as the draft he should go pro this year.  As critical as we are of him he is still one of the better QBs going into the draft and the league GMs seem legally obligated to draft at least 4 QBs in the first round.  I can’t see him dropping below the 2nd Rd. 

There was no intention to start Arch this year, that is true. But if Arch looked better Quinn, Arch would have gotten more time. I'm 100% confident that Arch would have struggled a lot more with other aspects of QB play. I'm 100% sure that Sark thought Quinn gave us our best shot. This is a stupid conversation. 

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