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4 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Think about the type of player you’re getting at Tech if he’s been money whipped extravagantly to go there of all places.

These are low IQ players, jumping at whatever money they can get and probably don’t have the work ethic, focus, or intelligence to really succeed and exceed. 

 

3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Oh I don’t think he’s low IQ for taking $5m. Very few can pass that up. Hell I’d have taken it too. 

 

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Paying $5 million to one guy is not how you build a program. Even if it's a few guys you overpay for, and I get that the only way you can get them is to overpay, it's not how you build a program. Losers are gonna loser.

Drama drama. Brought to you by the idiots who fired Mike Leach.

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1 hour ago, Helobious said:

You guys know there’s no salary caps right? There’s no budget? All this talk of “tying up money” in recruits is nonsense. We have almost unlimited money to spend and we should start acting like it. Do the Dodgers give a shit how much money they have tied up in Ohtani or Betts or Kershaw or anyone else? Do they let it stop them from signing more stars? No.

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On 7/3/2025 at 6:41 PM, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Someone give me the down low one n this sand aggy.  Ok billionaire but is he willing to throw 30m at tech athletics every year?

Dont look at 30 mil from your perspective.  If he has $1000 throwing $30 at something isnt that much.  Also, he has more than a thousand and it will continue to grow. 

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7 hours ago, Lonestar88 said:

The outrage would've been from other teams/fans. "Texas is ruining college football!!11". People care a lot less when its an irrelevant Texas Tech program.

All I can say is that I predict the numbers keep going up until there's some kind of legislation or the system starts collapsing. Maybe this new enforcement mechanism does something to curtail the spending, but I doubt it. 

Texas isn't going to ruin college football any more than it ruined the Southwest Conference or the Big 12. But I feel like you know that. 

In any case, I did miss the point of the post. 

I do feel like Texas Tech can spend its way to relevancy if they have the right coach. I have no idea if McGuire is that sort of dude, but if you spend enough more than everyone else year after year, eventually it comes together. That's assuming the Double Eagle guys continue to believe this is a good use of their immense wealth. And it assumes other programs don't get their own very generous benefactors and outspend them. But that goes back to my first sentence.

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5 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

So bizarre - Tech currently has two low 4 stars in their class, all the rest 3-stars (other than Ojo).  So basically, they just threw their entire recruiting budget at Ojo.

The funny thing about Tech’s transfer class is they spent an obscene amount and ended up adding 3, maybe 4, guys that I view as real impact players to a roster that was otherwise fairly mediocre. For the most part, these guys are closer to Jermayne Lole level players than Mukuba/Golden.
 

The strategy doesn’t make sense to me, it’s not like they had an existing roster ready for a playoff run and just needed a few pieces. They’ll get tagged a few times in B12 play because it’s a random number generator conference and they go on the road to Utah, ASU and KSU. More than anything, they set themselves up to be national laughingstocks. 

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Look, if Tech wants to drop bags, they're more than welcome to. But I fear that they're going to learn that signing five stars does not automatically translate to wins. Tom Herman and Charlie Strong were also able to snag 5 stars.

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8 minutes ago, markstanco said:

Dont look at 30 mil from your perspective.  If he has $1000 throwing $30 at something isnt that much.  Also, he has more than a thousand and it will continue to grow. 

It's really two guys. John Sellers and Cody Campbell. They both played football at Texas Tech. They were partners with Double Eagle. They're the guys who brought in the softball pitcher, NiJaree Canady, from Stanford, for $1 mlllion per year both last year and this coming season. 

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There is nothing wrong with deciding to take the money.  However just like the recent camps, he's a little bitch who plays games and cant handle things with maturity.  I wouldnt feel bad if he blows his knees.

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I doubt Cody Campbell thinks like the haters that fired Leach. CC played four years for the pirate. And the speculation that Ojo won't end up signing seems odd. My understanding is that he has already signed so as to obviate any House Settlement consequences of his deal. I agree with those who believe he is a super-high risk to be locker-room poison, a 5* millionaire either riding the pine or getting humbled playing before ready. The cash is going to run right through Lubbock.

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1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

It's really two guys. John Sellers and Cody Campbell. They both played football at Texas Tech. They were partners with Double Eagle. They're the guys who brought in the softball pitcher, NiJaree Canady, from Stanford, for $1 mlllion per year both last year and this coming season. 

We saw first hand how that worked out. 

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1 hour ago, Aslan24 said:

Look, if Tech wants to drop bags, they're more than welcome to. But I fear that they're going to learn that signing five stars does not automatically translate to wins. Tom Herman and Charlie Strong were also able to snag 5 stars.

I believe the only consensus 5 star that Strong got was Jefferson so McGuire technically has more consensus 5 stars at Tech than Strong had at UT assuming Ojo signs to go along with Hudson. Just an interesting look back at the dark days of UT recruiting.

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2 minutes ago, NashLonghorn said:

We saw first hand how that worked out. 

First ever wcws appearance, and made it to the finals.  And they added some offense and a second pitcher in the portal.  I’d guess they were happy. 

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4 hours ago, SECCaptain said:

Mediocre for Texas, probably ends up ~10-15. A lot of depth/high upside multi-year "projects" that don't command serious NIL money, 26 will kind of end up a gap year imo. 27 & 28  will be the foundation around Bell

Dude there are three 5 stars in the class and it is June.  We got the #1 QB, #1 tackle, and an elite edge rusher on our board.  This class is going to be just fine, it’s barely July.  Let’s see the language in these contracts for these offers come August.  Let’s also see if Goosby, Moore, etc go pro a year early.  If they do, that will open up funds and we can flip guys.  Texas is trying to keep powder dry to keep their roster in place because we will make a legit national title run in Arch’s final year.  Hell, we’re going to make one this year and teams are going to do their best to poach from our roster.  Gerry and Bobby have said that every position on this team has a back up that will be a NFL player.  Texas wants to retain them instead of over pay for high school guys considering there is a cap, which may not even exist after law suits.  Chill…

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41 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Dude there are three 5 stars in the class and it is June.  We got the #1 QB, #1 tackle, and an elite edge rusher on our board.  This class is going to be just fine, it’s barely July.  Let’s see the language in these contracts for these offers come August.  Let’s also see if Goosby, Moore, etc go pro a year early.  If they do, that will open up funds and we can flip guys.  Texas is trying to keep powder dry to keep their roster in place because we will make a legit national title run in Arch’s final year.  Hell, we’re going to make one this year and teams are going to do their best to poach from our roster.  Gerry and Bobby have said that every position on this team has a back up that will be a NFL player.  Texas wants to retain them instead of over pay for high school guys considering there is a cap, which may will not even exist after law suits.  Chill…

Totally agree but with one small alteration.  I know I'm only one of the 82,258 lawyers on this board who post dumb shit instead of, you know, actually working - but I do feel pretty safe in prognosticating on this

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7 hours ago, Helobious said:

You guys know there’s no salary caps right? There’s no budget? All this talk of “tying up money” in recruits is nonsense. We have almost unlimited money to spend and we should start acting like it. Do the Dodgers give a shit how much money they have tied up in Ohtani or Betts or Kershaw or anyone else? Do they let it stop them from signing more stars? No.

I must have missed the time that the Dodgers gave a rookie they just drafted $100 million dollars to go play in the minor leagues for two years. Because that's essentially what a recruit is. A rookie that needs development time. In baseball, not worth $100 million. In CFB, not with $5 million

Now if Jeremiah Smith hits the portal? Yeah, go nuts. But offering that money to a high school senior is regarded.

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8 hours ago, Aslan24 said:

Look, if Tech wants to drop bags, they're more than welcome to. But I fear that they're going to learn that signing five stars does not automatically translate to wins. Tom Herman and Charlie Strong were also able to snag 5 stars.

Exactly. It's like they spent a ton of money on new wheels expecting the car to now be faster and better. The wheels may be better but the overall car still won't win. 

I guess as a Longhorn fan I'd rather have these players go to places like Tech (but obviously rather they go to Texas) rather than Ohio State/Georgia or some other school that's actually good.

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Its summertime, so for some the panties ride up a bit too snugly as they pace back and forth wringing their hands.  When discomfort could simply be relieved with a gentle tug of perspective on their bunged up panties.  Now that I have addressed the incessant drone of summertime whine...

One of the things that I think is fantastic about the guys we have on campus is that despite they are bonding in a manner never before seen at Texas, we have record academic performance from record talented group of players!  Herman departed with a 2.33 GPA average, this Spring the GPA average is 3.31!

One of the hardest things a coach does when they take over a team is try to "change the culture."  You hear it time and again.  As at first the new head coach is usually forced to add lead motivator and lead disciplinarian to their coaching duties until they can indoctrinate enough upperclassmen with their culture to take over the motivation and disciplinary roles.  Look at WTF Sark has done!  He now has upperclassmen that can lead both on and off the field.  The upperclassmen now are the disciplinarians, and motivators, they hold the newbies to a hgher standard.  A standard that has been passed to them from Sark and they have bought into.  The bottom line is that you have to not only be an amazing athlete to get a fat NIL check from the University of Texas, you have to have the right sort of mindset, attitude and smarts.  I love that Sark has chosen wisely kids that realize that academic performance is important!!!!  

The main reason I think smarts are important?  Because smart kids tend to be able to see past themselves.  If you cannot see past yourself, then you can never truly create the sort of team every coach dreams of.  One that sees itself as a collective with a common goal, rather than a collective of individuals with personal, then team goals.  That's how you end up with a kid like Arch Manning, willing to let his personal aspirations take a back seat to perhaps obtain a greater team goal.  And smart kids... are a lot more likely to understand success takes a lot more than simply very talented individuals.  It takes individuals dedicated to a goal greater than themselves.  things like personal development on and off the field are what makes pinnacle goals like National Championships possible by building the "right kind" of team.

SO... whenever we miss out on a guy I always wonder what all the dynamics are.  Beyond simply writing a check.  Because at TEXAS, we can write all the fucking checks we want.  But it's the kid beyond the physical talent that will determine the quality of your team in the coming years.  And tight now we have both the most talented, and smartest team we have had on campus in a while.

So relax!  Finish out your July 4th weekend, and pull those wadded up panties out of your ass if you are one of those.  We are in a good place recruiting, and a good place with this team from a talent perspective.  And we will continue to be, as long as we keep handing our shit the way we have been.  And if we miss out on Freshmen, we simply move to the transfer window.  All we need do now is keep on this course... and very, very, very good things are ahead.

Hook'em!

And prayers to all those in the Hill Country whose lives have been turned upside down by this weekends tragic flooding.

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Posted
9 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

You don’t want to see what they’d do to a guy like me in prison

 

8 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Same. Point remains.

Spread a little money around for protection.

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8 hours ago, Aslan24 said:

Look, if Tech wants to drop bags, they're more than welcome to. But I fear that they're going to learn that signing five stars does not automatically translate to wins. Tom Herman and Charlie Strong were also able to snag 5 stars.

With a little spare time, I decided to review the 247 info for Strong's classes:
2014: ranked 17 nationally - 5*: 0, 4*: 10 : Heard, Roberson, A Foreman, Duke Catalon, Poona, BLake Whitely, Lorenzo Joe, John Bonney, Edwin Freeman, Jermaine Roberts
2015: ranked 10 nationally - 5*: 1 Malik Jefferson, 4*:15  Holton Hill, Kris Boyd, Chris Warren, Wheeler, Locksley, Vahe, Burt, DeAndre McNeal, K Johnson, R Newsome, C Townsend, Omenihu, D Elliott, Buck Major, Cecil Cherry,.  Class also had NFLers Connor Williams, PJ Locke, and Michael Dickson
2016: ranked 6 nationally - 5*: 0 4*: 12 - B Jones, J Elliott, Duvernay, Fowler, Hudson, MCCulloch, Fitzgerald, DeLance, Collin Johnson, D Okafor, Kyle Porter, S Buechele

And Herman's
2017: Ranked 25 - 5*:0, 4*: 4 Estrell, Gary Johnson, Ehlinger, Graham - Damion Miller signed LOI and did not enroll
2018: Ranked 3 - 5*: 3 Jalen Green, Overshown, Stearns 4*: 13 Foster, Eagles, Jamison, Adeoye, Cook, Angilau, J Moore, Ossai, Coburn, Woodard, K Ingram, Ojomo, Reese Moore
2019: Ranked 3 - 5*: 2 Bru McCoy, Tyler Owens 4*: 13 Whittington, Floyd, Jake Smith, Tyler Johnson, Myron Warren, Adimora, Gbenda, Liebrock, Hoofkin, Watson, Washington, Shepard, D Brown.  Brown never played.  Notable 3* in that class: RoJo, Sweat, J Wiley, 
2020: Ranked 9 5* : 2 Bijan, Alfred Collins 4* 12 - J Jackson, Card, Dorbah, Barron, Crawford, Alford, J Thompson, Broughton, Garth, Parr, Karic, K Dixon. Notable 3* Majors, J Ford

Strong recruited 1 5*; Herman recruited 7.

So far, Sark has recruited 12: 2021: 1, 2022: 2, 2023: 3, 2024: 2, 2025: 4

There were a lot ot recognizable names in Strong's and Herman's classes above.  There were quite a few I do not recall at all.  Such is college football recruiting.

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