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48 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Well that's just like your opinion man.

She's already stuck her neck out for him, and clearly feels beholden to him, but I'm sure she'd really be worried about it because it's prohibited by professional responsibility rules 🙄. There aren't any recent examples of right wing judges running roughshod over those.

I didn't say anything about her staff being involved and it wouldn't be necessary, so I'm not sure why you made that particular point. I'm talking about Trump calling her on a burner and your reasoning has failed to convince me  it hasn't already happened. 

When the man carrying two McDonalds bags stops outside her courtroom….and then leaves a minute later….her security camera picks it up.  

That means burner phone call from rightful POTUS at 2:00 pm.   

I bet her chambers bathroom is filled with boxes in solidarity 

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7 minutes ago, austingirl said:

I'm not a lawyer, but I think public defenders are for people who can't afford representation, which would rule it out as an option for him.

Girl, we know he’s broke

I'm not a lawyer, but I think public defenders are for people who can't afford representation, which would rule it out as an option for him.
Well, he can't afford the retainer that most lawyers are going to require him to pay.
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48 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

I was thinking about this and I believe the simple answer comes down to the system was set up to favor the wealthy and influential, as well as under the assumption that the President who appoints federal judges won't be one of the biggest criminals in the country. To this point that has mostly been true with only Nixon and maybe Andrew Jackson really testing that, but nothing like we've seen with Trump. This is a whole new possibility that just wasn't accounted for because it wasn't deemed all that necessary. 

Trump should have been a precedent setter that set into action all sorts of legislation protecting against the possibility of Americans electing a criminal President, and one of those should definitely be any President standing trial either in civil or criminal court cannot be tried under a judge that President appointed. 

Well one reality of this is that US Presidents aren't often parties to litigation in their own capacity, either civil or criminal, especially not criminal. As in, like, never.

So, it's all kinds of unusual that a President is in court before a judge that he appointed.

But, gatorubet raises a valid point.  Although POTUS nominates judges, especially with district judges, that doesn't mean there's any kind of relationship between them.  District judges generally have to have "paid some party dues" and brought themselves to the attention somehow of their party establishment, especially the Senator(s) of that party in the state for the initial recommendation.  Lately, apparently, some kind of FedSoc credentials will do.

This explains why numerous Trump appointees have done the man no favors.

35 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

From the article:

But what if Judge Cannon does not recuse herself? One possibility that should be explored is for the chief judge of the district court, Chief Judge Cecilia Altonaga, to reassign the case pursuant to the court’s power under federal law to “assign [ ] cases so far as [local] rules and orders do not otherwise prescribe.” Nothing in the Southern District of Florida’s local rules or Internal Operating Procedures is to the contrary. Those local procedures provide for Judge Cannon and her colleagues to agree to transfer the case to another judge. The chief judge should have a vigorous discussion with her under that provision. If Judge Cannon demurs, though, the rules are silent about what happens next and so the federal statute comes into play for the chief judge to reassign the case. She too can point to logistical concerns, including the security ones, in reassigning it to a judge in Miami— saving face for Judge Cannon.

I think this is the most likely way we get Cannon off the case.  If it is going to be tried in Miami, which is unfortunate all by itself, I think the Chief Judge can go all John Roberts and strongly suggest that Cannon request/agree that it be transferred to another judge.

What are the requirements for an attorney to practice law in Florida?  Are there any states with reciprocal agreements, or does the attorney have to be a member of the FL bar?

Well one reality of this is that US Presidents aren't often parties to litigation in their own capacity, either civil or criminal, especially not criminal. As in, like, never.
So, it's all kinds of unusual that a President is in court before a judge that he appointed.
But, gatorubet raises a valid point.  Although POTUS nominates judges, especially with district judges, that doesn't mean there's any kind of relationship between them.  District judges generally have to have "paid some party dues" and brought themselves to the attention somehow of their party establishment, especially the Senator(s) of that party in the state for the initial recommendation.  Lately, apparently, some kind of FedSoc credentials will do.
This explains why numerous Trump appointees have done the man no favors.
Sounds like a real easy opportunity for some bipartisan legislation... judges cannot sit on criminal cases involving a defendant that appointed them.

Sounds like a very reasonable check to me. Who wouldn't support that?

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What are the requirements for an attorney to practice law in Florida?  Are there any states with reciprocal agreements, or does the attorney have to be a member of the FL bar?

Not to total thread shit but the state licensing system is dumb. 

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What are the requirements for an attorney to practice law in Florida?  Are there any states with reciprocal agreements, or does the attorney have to be a member of the FL bar?

The Southern District pro hoc motion rules require an out of district lawyer to have local counsel admitted to the Southern District as co-counsel. Local counsel must file and serve the pro hoc motion to get outside the district counsel admitted for the case (no more than 3 cases per calendar year)

4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Not to total thread shit but the state licensing system is dumb. 

So is their fee split rules for pro hoc co-counsel.  Their whole set-up is unnecessarily difficult. 

1 hour ago, tchookem said:

Who wouldn't support that?

Um, I could take a guess.

1 hour ago, austingirl said:

I'm not a lawyer, but I think public defenders are for people who can't afford representation, which would rule it out as an option for him.

pffft like he was gonna pay ANY lawyer, assigned or otherwise.

20 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The Southern District pro hoc motion rules require an out of district lawyer to have local counsel admitted to the Southern District as co-counsel. Local counsel must file and serve the pro hoc motion to get outside the district counsel admitted for the case (no more than 3 cases per calendar year)

Given all the shady shit that goes down in southern FL, it seems a very mediocre attorney could set up a pretty lucrative practice just acting as "co-counsel" to allow out of state attorneys wanting to represent rich sleezy clients like Trump

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I'd like to suggest a few modifications to the bus...

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53 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Every single one of us in this timeline

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42 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What are the requirements for an attorney to practice law in Florida?

I imagine a GED and fewer than three felony convictions would probably suffice.

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16 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Given all the shady shit that goes down in southern FL, it seems a very mediocre attorney could set up a pretty lucrative practice just acting as "co-counsel" to allow out of state attorneys wanting to represent rich sleezy clients like Trump

My brother from another mother. 

1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

 

Because all the lawyers are a part of or afraid of the DEEP STATE!  DURRRR!!!

Just get Lloyd Garroway appointed as public defender and get this show on the road.  If he wants to pony up for Freddy Reidenschneider at some point, so be it.

53 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What are the requirements for an attorney to practice law in Florida?  Are there any states with reciprocal agreements, or does the attorney have to be a member of the FL bar?

The issue with local counsel is usually maintaining an office in the district, not just being admitted to practice in the state.

3 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

Is there any doubt that Trump and Cannon haven't talked since his indictment? I'd bet they will be in touch through the entire case. 

She probably hasn't talked to Trump.  But she has Harlan Crow on speed dial. 

I just saw his face/ad on the side of a bus earlier and thought, "Yeah this guy would totally get Trump off...because they never see him coming."  He could at least get Don, Jr. off some possession charges.  Too funny, have some rep

57 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Not to total thread shit but the state licensing system is dumb. 

No, it's really not dumb.

State laws vary widely.  I wouldn't dare practice in California with all their fucked up laws and byzantine codification, except for patent law before the USPTO, which I am entitled to practice nationwide.  Same with NY.  Same with Louisiana.

Although a lot of federal legislation is necessary, there is value to federalism and letting a state fuck itself up all it wants to.

Again, the point of local counsel is not to have someone that is admitted to the Florida bar, it's having someone with an office in the district, so that the judge can get someone to court on short notice (often in order to barbecue their ass).  

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2 hours ago, The Dog said:

doubt this is intentional. nobody wants to represent him. 

there has to be some desperate clout chasing MAGA lawyer who would rep him for free.

12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The issue with local counsel is usually maintaining an office in the district, not just being admitted to practice in the state.

Could the law office be attached to a florist shop or tire repair shop or whatever the co-council does between law gigs?

"If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you at no cost as you are a taxpayer." 

-I don't pay my attorneys, and I've only paid $750 in taxes in the last several years.  But I was once President of the United States despite losing the popular vote and bankrupting the same casino twice.

"Well, shit.  This is something of a pickle."  

17 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

there has to be some desperate clout chasing MAGA lawyer who would rep him for free.

you'd think so but I think he's already burned through all of those guys. 

nobody wants to go to jail for him anymore. 

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17 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Could the law office be attached to a florist shop or tire repair shop or whatever the co-council does between law gigs?

they were trying but negotiations broke down over cucumber water access privileges.

5 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

they were trying but negotiations broke down over cucumber water access privileges.

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

snl writers walking the picket lines are definitely workshopping a sketch where trump is on a tinder-style platform swiping left and right on a bunch of local miami attorneys.

"hey, looks like we matched.  what are you doing tomorrow around noon?"

18 hours ago, Pods said:

13% think the documents charges are serious, but that Trump should not be charged for them. 

 

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1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

Could the law office be attached to a florist shop or tire repair shop or whatever the co-council does between law gigs?

A landscape company, perhaps.  One for all seasons.

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

The issue with local counsel is usually maintaining an office in the district, not just being admitted to practice in the state.

https://envoy.com/blog/office-hoteling/#:~:text=Office hoteling%2C otherwise known as,stay%2C you check-out.

 

Alright, which one of you burnt-out attorneys wants to move to Florida and become MAGA defense specialists?  I will bankroll your first week of hotel office space if you agree to chronicle your adventures on this site. 

Welp it’s all over boys, they tried …..

 

25 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

https://envoy.com/blog/office-hoteling/#:~:text=Office hoteling%2C otherwise known as,stay%2C you check-out.

 

Alright, which one of you burnt-out attorneys wants to move to Florida and become MAGA defense specialists?  I will bankroll your first week of hotel office space if you agree to chronicle your adventures on this site. 

I would pay well in excess of 9.95 if @Brisketexan does it.

25 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

https://envoy.com/blog/office-hoteling/#:~:text=Office hoteling%2C otherwise known as,stay%2C you check-out.

 

Alright, which one of you burnt-out attorneys wants to move to Florida and become MAGA defense specialists?  I will bankroll your first week of hotel office space if you agree to chronicle your adventures on this site. 

You’ll have better luck in the Daily Texan finding someone to take you up on your offer. 

Wait a minute, the Corvette has a doors that open and closes?  This is all news to me.

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I would pay well in excess of 9.95 if @Brisketexan does it.


I’ll throw in two tamales and make a mess of fresh pico 

I have heard so many times during the last week about how "Hillary did the exact same thing and wasn't indicted" or "Biden has thousands of boxes everywhere and he's never been raided". I would really like to think that the vast majority of people saying these things are like Lindsey Graham, and it's just pure gaslighting. But probably not.

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I have heard so many times during the last week about how "Hillary did the exact same thing and wasn't indicted" or "Biden has thousands of boxes everywhere and he's never been raided". I would really like to think that the vast majority of people saying these things are like Lindsey Graham, and it's just pure gaslighting. But probably not.

No, the vast majority of Americans are just that fucking stupid.  And they believe that their stupidity is superior to intelligence, knowledge, or facts.  They believe in their own stupidity above everything else.

Which is why we are turbofucked.

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I have heard so many times during the last week about how "Hillary did the exact same thing and wasn't indicted" or "Biden has thousands of boxes everywhere and he's never been raided". I would really like to think that the vast majority of people saying these things are like Lindsey Graham, and it's just pure gaslighting. But probably not.

I still hear my FIL saying "Golly gee, that Biden sure seems to be senile!  It seems like he has classified documents everywhere!"

It’s too easy a case, open and shut since he’s 100% not guilty. We know that all lawyers only value a true challenge. Lawyers want no part of easy money 

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No, the vast majority of Americans are just that fucking stupid.  And they believe that their stupidity is superior to intelligence, knowledge, or facts.  They believe in their own stupidity above everything else.

Which is why we are turbofucked.

It gets very disheartening, watching so many people look into a camera and confidently declare that 2 + 2 = 149. 

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