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5 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

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That is as close to a furiously waved white flag as could reasonably be expected.  If this was the cost of dropping those bunker busters (without them even closing the Strait of Hormuz) this is a huge win for the US.

21 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

Wish we could drop this moron from a B-2 into Iran.

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Depending on how successfull we ultimately determine the Fordrow attacks to be, this kinda seems like the Iranians are all but begging us to ask Isreal to stop. 

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24 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Genuine question for those of you that support this guy: what do you think of the constant need to embellish and overstate every single thing that he does?  Politics aside, it's exhausting to watch for me personally and I feel like it wouldn't be tolerated in any other real life setting, yet it's almost second nature at this point.  For decades we've mocked other countries that have leadership meetings that seem to be a groveling contest, yet now we get to see those from our side almost weekly.  

Are you cool with it?  Don't care?  Love it and with they would go further?

Again, genuine question with no intent to troll.

I don't think anyone including my self loves the embellishment completely. I view it that everyone is going to have their flaws. Politicains hide theirs. Trump isnt a politician and at 70 whatever he is who he is. You don't think previous politicians has flaws or skeletons? 

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Just now, Bateshorn said:

Depending on how successfull we ultimately determine the Fordrow attacks to be, this kinda seems like the Iranians are all but begging us to ask Isreal to stop. 

The Simpsons GIF

 

Indeed

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12 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Legitimately great news.

If that's the extent of any counter-strike or terror activity, absolutely.

Where that ultimately leaves us is . . . . wondering what, if anything, was actually accomplished by all of this.  Did the US strikes really take out/significantly harm Iran's enrichment capabilities for a long term?  Did they take out already enriched uranium?  Seems like we won't really know for quite some time.

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26 minutes ago, Hitch said:

Iran doesn’t want a war with the U.S., they communicated where they were attacking beforehand. 

I want you to think about what you said and get back to me.

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3 minutes ago, victory88 said:

One thing we know... 1-2 years from now Bibi will claim Iran is weeks away from having a nuke.

I mean, we can't have that wartime cabinet dissolve and him be exposed to criminal indictment now can we?

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3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I want you to think about what you said and get back to me.

They want us dead. They do not want a war. It’s not that complicated. 

 

26 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Which is why it was so essential to bomb their shit over the weekend!  or something...

Yes, we can’t allow them to have nukes. 

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31 minutes ago, Hitch said:

Iran doesn’t want a war with the U.S., they communicated where they were attacking beforehand. 

Exactly.

They very much do not want a dead American soldier.

What they want is to be able to tell their people that we hit them with 12 bombs, so they launched 12 missiles in a proportionate response.  No one in Iran can verify the effectiveness of either strike, so it sounds good to them.  

This can be the end of it if we keep our war boner in our pants.

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Lots of wishful thinking going on. 

Iranian regime hasn't been a real threat to the US in decades, they focus on their region and neighbors. This was by the book "retaliation" from Iran, just a relatively harmless show a force to keep their own people in line. We got duped into bombing them, which will create more unrest in the Middle East sooner than later, as the regime knows Israel was behind all of it.

And Bibi is not gonna stop until the regime is gone, and will continue to drag us into this. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Exactly.

They very much do not want a dead American soldier.

What they want is to be able to tell their people that we hit them with 12 bombs, so they launched 12 missiles in a proportionate response.  No one in Iran can verify the effectiveness of either strike, so it sounds good to them.  

This can be the end of it if we keep our war boner in our pants.

Dibs on War Boner as a band name.

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

I'm aware of all that information. The variance in the same language in different areas or countries are called regional dialects. I said the dialects were different, not the language. So basically you just reinforced my point on language all while ignoring all the various recent cultural and mindset divides between Taiwan and China. If you are indeed Taiwanese, I'm rather shocked you don't agree with your fellow countrymen's position. However, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

1.) I have family members who are, but I'm not Taiwanese. 

2.) I'm not ignoring anything, you're layering your own context onto what I've said. You said there's a vast cultural divide.  I said it's not as big as it used to be.  It's not.  China has spent a lot of money on soft power influence in Taiwan the past 2 decades emphasizing their shared cultural history in order to drive a wedge between them and the west.  Go online and read their forums, look at their tik tok videos or instas - the sense of ethnic pride in their history is prevalent.  

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22 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Depending on how successfull we ultimately determine the Fordrow attacks to be, this kinda seems like the Iranians are all but begging us to ask Isreal to stop. 

The Simpsons GIF

Try spending a few years living on oil exports instead of helping every radical group blow shit up.  You might live long enough to enjoy it.

 

24 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Depending on how successfull we ultimately determine the Fordrow attacks to be, this kinda seems like the Iranians are all but begging us to ask Isreal to stop. 

The Simpsons GIF

 

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1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

The Iranians did this shit to the Israelis in April. They are legitimately retarded. Hey, let’s spend millions of dollars saving face for the dumbest of our populace. 

And are we retarded for continuing to believe they are a real threat to the US when they've repeatedly shown they aren't yet we bomb them anyways? 

 

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17 minutes ago, Hitch said:

They want us dead. They do not want a war. It’s not that complicated. 

 

Yes, we can’t allow them to have nukes. 

This is what a lifetime of uncritically deepthroating propaganda gets you. 

If Iran doesn't want a war, how do you propose they are going to kill us? The Force? It takes some wild mental gymnastics to claim they don't want a war and that we have to do a performative bombing because they want to kill us in the same breath. 

Do you hear yourself?

If Iran wanted a nuke they would have had one by now. Use your brain instead of mainlining state department propaganda just one time.

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1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, Keef said:

Wish we could drop this moron from a B-2 into Iran.

Graham was one of the ones priming the pump for an American attack on Iran, and now he wants to close it down, as if war is some kind of sporting event with timed quarters or periods or innings,

59 minutes ago, hornbri said:

Yep, right now they can claim they felt the last blow and we backed down, that will be their position. 

Let’s just hop our leadership doesn’t hear that they claimed we backed down.

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27 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

If that's the extent of any counter-strike or terror activity, absolutely.

Where that ultimately leaves us is . . . . wondering what, if anything, was actually accomplished by all of this.  Did the US strikes really take out/significantly harm Iran's enrichment capabilities for a long term?  Did they take out already enriched uranium?  Seems like we won't really know for quite some time.

BDA’s are still being done, but from what I’m seeing Israeli intelligence seems to think the vast majority of the enriched uranium is not destroyed but entombed at Fordow and Isfahan. That’s why they bombed the access points to Fordow this morning, to prevent Iranians getting in to remove it. This interview with Amit Segal is very encouraging. He’s saying they think the nuclear program is effectively ended and the air strikes are focused on eliminating as much of the ballistic missile capability as possible:

Situation is still fluid, but if this pans out, seems like a net benefit for us in this exchange. 

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26 minutes ago, Hitch said:

They want us dead. They do not want a war. It’s not that complicated. 

Yes, we can’t allow them to have nukes. 

They’ve been weeks away from having nukes for decades now.

They don’t want nukes to wipe us out, they want nukes for the same reason Pakistan, North Korea, and even Israel have nukes.

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7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

This is what a lifetime of uncritically deepthroating propaganda gets you. 

If Iran doesn't want a war, how do you propose they are going to kill us? The Force? It takes some wild mental gymnastics to claim they don't want a war and that we have to do a performative bombing because they want to kill us in the same breath. 

Do you hear yourself?

If Iran wanted a nuke they would have had one by now. Use your brain instead of mainlining state department propaganda just one time.

Deepthroating? I think there’s some things you may need it work out here. I’m not surprised you’re so angry. 
 

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

They’ve been weeks away from having nukes for decades now.

They don’t want nukes to wipe us out, they want nukes for the same reason Pakistan, North Korea, and even Israel have nukes.

Oh, sure. I’m definitely going to take their word for it. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Ok, now I'm certain Iran was able to move its nuclear materials stockpile before the bombs dropped

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they want their own version of reality

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

BDA’s are still being done, but from what I’m seeing Israeli intelligence seems to think the vast majority of the enriched uranium is not destroyed but entombed at Fordow and Isfahan. That’s why they bombed the access points to Fordow this morning, to prevent Iranians getting in to remove it. This interview with Amit Segal is very encouraging. He’s saying they think the nuclear program is effectively ended and the air strikes are focused on eliminating as much of the ballistic missile capability as possible:

Situation is still fluid, but if this pans out, seems like a net benefit for us in this exchange. 

At some point the IDF will go in. They have to just to make sure. We probably won't hear about. 

 

 

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I find it a little hard to believe that over the course of a week since the war started, with air superiority, the Israelis just watched the Iranian's back up trucks to Fordrow and load it up with an unidentified cargo and drive away. Or the US overhead satellites feeding intelligence to the IDF. 

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1 hour ago, WineGuy69 said:

I don't think anyone including my self loves the embellishment completely. I view it that everyone is going to have their flaws. Politicains hide theirs. Trump isnt a politician and at 70 whatever he is who he is. You don't think previous politicians has flaws or skeletons? 

Trump has run for president three times (and arguably more) and won election twice. If that’s not a politician, nobody is.

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10 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Hope Iran’s nuclear program has been set back multiple years and that all sides will now deescalate. If so, that’s an A+ result.

And if none of those things happen? B+?

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10 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

You think the Israeli's want this to end?  Especially Bibi.  He needs an antagonist.  

I don’t disagree with that. Just the narrative that the Iran’s just straight trucked a bunch of 60-90% enriched uranium out and nobody in combined intelligence community said “hmm, I wonder what’s in those 18 wheelers?”

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8 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Weird post. Iran very clearly wanted a nuke. 

Ok so when I say that I should be clear that I mean if they wanted to obtain a nuke to drop on Israel or some such other suicidal nonsense, they could have done it by now. 

Considering how very obviously interested Iran is in self preservation, there is no chance at all they would attempt such a thing.

I personally could not care less if they want to build nukes as a deterrent, which of course is the real reason to have nukes: to not get nuked. 

Of course, it'd be great if nobody had nukes. More nukes is not a good thing, but everyone with a functioning frontal cortex understands that isn't the real calculus here.

If you can't look at the past 30 years and recognize this is all performative nonsense, I don't know what to tell you.

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6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I don’t disagree with that. Just the narrative that the Iran’s just straight trucked a bunch of 60-90% enriched uranium out and nobody in combined intelligence community said “hmm, I wonder what’s in those 18 wheelers?”

How much 60+% enriched uranium do you think they have? You could haul their entire stockpile somewhere in the bed of a mid-90s Chevy S10.

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The Iranians did this shit to the Israelis in April. They are legitimately retarded. Hey, let’s spend millions of dollars saving face for the dumbest of our populace. 

There's irony, and then about a hundred levels above irony, there's this.

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