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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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I hope they realize how important it is to coin new terms by using them consistently.

It's not "Project 2025" it's "Trump's Project 2025." They're not abortion bans, they're "Trump Abortion Bans."

That's why "Biden Border Crisis" worked (sadly). Even if it's false, the time your opposition has to spend talking about it or trying to correct the record is them flailing around in quicksand. The more they try to deny it, the stronger it sticks. No matter what they say, there's zero doubt that Harris will be the better candidate on those issues.

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On 8/21/2024 at 3:36 PM, Sawbonz said:

Who the fuck goes to the dps to register to vote? I avoid that place like the plague 

Well, fuckstick I assume is referring to "motor voter" registrations, where you can do it concurrently with renewing a DL.

Obviously, fuckstick doesn't know what a clusterfuck DPS is.  And maybe we know now why DPS is such a clusterfuck.

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US DOJ is going after a Harlan Crowe-founded business, which he later sold to incredibly shitty and unethical PE firm, Thoma Bravo. It's software designed to enable price fixing among large-scale housing owners. A Diaper Don DOJ would never even examine such a thing.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/business/economy/realpage-doj-antitrust-suit-rent.html

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Pre-convention as well

The positive Texas polling was pre-convention as well! At least Allred has seen  the light now. 

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I know Pancho was probably watching, but Lawrence O’Donnell brought up a good point - the media was made aware of a very low profile race for California AG back in 2010, led by Karl Rove, who recognized that Harris was a future star/POTUS and was dead set on stopping her in that election. 

They failed. 

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7 minutes ago, YChang said:

The positive Texas polling was pre-convention as well! At least Allred has seen  the light now. 

Allred might be able to singlehandedly flip Texas if he spent the next 70 days on the ground in Harris County getting people registered and working on logistics for early voting, etc. 

 

Oh well

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I know Pancho was probably watching, but Lawrence O’Donnell brought up a good point - the media was made aware of a very low profile race for California AG back in 2010, led by Karl Rove, who recognized that Harris was a future star/POTUS and was dead set on stopping her in that election. 

They failed. 

Rove is smart. 

My uncle has lived in the Bay Area for over 20 years and told my late mother about her back when she was still AG or maybe a senator. He said "she's going to be president."

Conway breaking his arm patting himself on the back:

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14 minutes ago, Chopper said:

US DOJ is going after a Harlan Crowe-founded business

You don't need to be concerned with a Harlan Crowe - that's just Dewey.  It's the Florida Crowes you need to worry about.

4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Rove is smart. 

My uncle has lived in the Bay Area for over 20 years and told my late mother about her back when she was still AG or maybe a senator. He said "she's going to be president."

And they got close to stopping her - 46.1, 45.3 in a very red midterm. She knows tough races 

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8 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Allred might be able to singlehandedly flip Texas if he spent the next 70 days on the ground in Harris County getting people registered and working on logistics for early voting, etc. 

 

Oh well

People shit on Beto, but thankfully you have him still out there tirelessly working on voter registration for reasons like that. 

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50 minutes ago, immamac said:

Anyone who thinks Kamala isn't ready needs to watch that speech. She's ready.

Agreed.  It was pretty impressive.  When she first took over the nomination I was of the opinion it wasn't likely she would have risen to the top of a true open Democratic primary.  After watching that speech (which is the definitively the most I've paid attention to her since the 2020 nomination process) I think pretty likely she would have come out on top in any event.  Not that it matters now, but in hindsight in an alternative scenario where Biden was still running, he really should have put her more in the spotlight. She had low favorability partially because she didn't seem to really do much or be highlighted as VP.  I was (wrongly) in the category believing she was a liability to Biden.   But the Kamala we saw last night would have put any concern about her taking over for Biden to bed.  Of course, that might have been the exact reason Biden staffers didn't want to put her in the spotlight if they were trying to avoid Biden stepping down.

In any event - I have not gone back and read the thread but I assume the consensus is she absolutely knocked it out of the park and I agree.

Yeah, I don't remember being very much impressed with her in the 2020 primaries, but she's killing it right now.

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1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

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26 minutes ago, YChang said:

People shit on Beto, but thankfully you have him still out there tirelessly working on voter registration for reasons like that. 

Beto is my guy. Texas doesn't deserve him at this time. I hope that one day this state will some day get to a point where we can send him to DC as a US senator.

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Beto is my guy. Texas doesn't deserve him at this time. I hope that one day this state will some day get to a point where we can send him to DC as a US senator.

Yeah, maybe after a cooling off period, he can try again.

13 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Get real,  a staffer snuck onto Trump's account while he was napping to post this.

 

10 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The C is either a liar about the grade, their undecided status, or is a policy honk. Guessing it’s 2 since watching that moved them to team Trump. 

The C vote on the speech is a Real Estate Agent.  He likes Trump's pardon policy for J6 rioters

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Yeah, I don't remember being very much impressed with her in the 2020 primaries, but she's killing it right now.

I could be off but what I vaguely remember is she had one pretty decent debate performance early but then seemed to trail off and not really distinguish herself.  I seem to recall my personal preference towards the end was Delaney (never had a chance), then Biden, Klobuchar/Pete/Kamala with a pretty big gap after Biden.

Just now, 'stache said:

Yeah, I don't remember being very much impressed with her in the 2020 primaries, but she's killing it right now.

A lot of really good candidates got lost in the noise of 20 people running.  She had a really good debate moment with Biden, but its damn hard to break out with 20+ people, many of whom were much higher household names than her (Biden, Bernie, Warren). She participated in the first 5 primary debates, which featured 10 in the first debate (on the 2nd night), 10 in the second debate (again on the 2nd night), 10 in the third debate, 12 in the fourth debate and 10 in the fifth debate.

When Biden stepped down and some stuff came out from her 2020 run, including a couple of ads, people were salivating over them and just likely never saw them since she dropped out pre-Iowa. 

She's improved substantially - 2020 VP run was very good, her debate with Pence was very good and she's had 4 years basically just giving speeches and politicking. 

7 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Agreed.  It was pretty impressive.  When she first took over the nomination I was of the opinion it wasn't likely she would have risen to the top of a true open Democratic primary.  After watching that speech (which is the definitively the most I've paid attention to her since the 2020 nomination process) I think pretty likely she would have come out on top in any event.  Not that it matters now, but in hindsight in an alternative scenario where Biden was still running, he really should have put her more in the spotlight. She had low favorability partially because she didn't seem to really do much or be highlighted as VP.  I was (wrongly) in the category believing she was a liability to Biden.   But the Kamala we saw last night would have put any concern about her taking over for Biden to bed.  Of course, that might have been the exact reason Biden staffers didn't want to put her in the spotlight if they were trying to avoid Biden stepping down.

In any event - I have not gone back and read the thread but I assume the consensus is she absolutely knocked it out of the park and I agree.

The timing of the switch was perfect whether planned or not.

  1. Trump focused everything on Biden and it was like Kamala who?  for uncommitted voters
  2. The election was framed about which old guy was the least bad - but both old low energy guys
  3. She got through without a primary to defend herself against other Dems.
  4. The switch was after the RNC and it's focus was still on sleepy Joe
8 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

The C vote on the speech is a Real Estate Agent.  He likes Trump's pardon policy for J6 rioters

He also heard that Trump supports a tax credit for vehicle leases.

8 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

The switch was after the RNC and it's focus was still on sleepy Joe

LMAO, 60% of the time, Don-old is running against some mythical Biden-Shapiro ticket anyhow.  He living in his own reality, sometimes lucid enough to remember he's running against Harris until the Adderall wears off and he goes back to his low-energy shitposting on Truth Social about Joe Biden.

47 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 

i started  laughing as soon as i saw the maxi pad on his ear.

22 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

Good lord. Fox and Friends served up a meatball right down the middle of the plate and Trump whiffed.

 

In fairness, the Walz clip was about a minute long.  No one can expect a 78 year old dementia patient to pay attention for that amount of time.

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Per MSNBC
 

Dem insiders saying their internal polling isn’t “as rosy” as the general polling in the swing states and they hope this convention will help with some separation

My concern in PA with the switch from Biden to Kamala is that the latent racism and misogyny in a portion of the old white dems lowers turnout. 

There’s a house I drive by when I go get tacos for lunch that has had a Biden Harris sign for like 6-8 months. Since the house next door has blossomed into full maga regalia. Last time I drove by the Biden sign is gone with nothing replacing it. 

Obviously just a single observation that likely means absolutely nothing. But my fear is that PA doesn’t come through for Harris the way it did for Biden. 

It was clear that enthusiasm for both old men was way down across the board. 

I’m hopeful that there a lot of people that haven’t yet formed an opinion of Kamala.  Hopefully they were watching last night.

That first debate could absolutely sway the battleground states significantly. The Trump campaign knows that which is why they were trying hard to get a Fox News debate out in front. I fully expect him to host a town hall on Fox and then say “well since she didn’t come to the one on Fox, I’m not going to the abc one.”

Im not sure how real any of my concerns with PA should be, vs just irrational fear. 

That's what Walz was selected to help out with, the fragile white male voter. 

34 minutes ago, Js1 said:

A lot of really good candidates got lost in the noise of 20 people running.  She had a really good debate moment with Biden, but its damn hard to break out with 20+ people, many of whom were much higher household names than her (Biden, Bernie, Warren). 

It didn’t help that, for better or for worse, a lot of people had already picked Biden aka “Help us Joe Biden, you’re our only hope!” Both because of his being Obama’s VP (mostly that) but also he had been around and could handle Trump.

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1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

I thought we were talking about small town football coaches.

I played 8-man football in Nebraska for multiple liberal coaches, who in turn were also from rural Nebraska. 

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I've previously written about a Jewish relative who had always been a reliable Democratic Party voter, but had declared that she would not be voting for any Democrats this cycle due to her perception that they were not supportive of enough of Israel.  She reiterated this to me again after some of the protests outside the DNC gained publicity earlier in the week.

She texted me this morning that Kamala's speech earned her vote.

Just now, Royalfan5 said:

I played 8-man football in Nebraska for multiple liberal coaches, who in turn were also from rural Nebraska. 

That's good, maybe it's different in the midwest.

My concern in PA with the switch from Biden to Kamala is that the latent racism and misogyny in a portion of the old white dems lowers turnout. 
There’s a house I drive by when I go get tacos for lunch that has had a Biden Harris sign for like 6-8 months. Since the house next door has blossomed into full maga regalia. Last time I drove by the Biden sign is gone with nothing replacing it. 
Obviously just a single observation that likely means absolutely nothing. But my fear is that PA doesn’t come through for Harris the way it did for Biden. 
It was clear that enthusiasm for both old men was way down across the board. 
I’m hopeful that there a lot of people that haven’t yet formed an opinion of Kamala.  Hopefully they were watching last night.
That first debate could absolutely sway the battleground states significantly. The Trump campaign knows that which is why they were trying hard to get a Fox News debate out in front. I fully expect him to host a town hall on Fox and then say “well since she didn’t come to the one on Fox, I’m not going to the abc one.”
Im not sure how real any of my concerns with PA should be, vs just irrational fear. 

Pennsylvania is the biggest concern (tightest percentages) for the rust belt swing states.
But, it may just take a while to get Kamala signs, particularly if the old man is not great at the inter webs. He might not get one until someone knocks on his door.
I am hopeful the very active UAW support helps in PA.
1 hour ago, Constant said:

He’s getting dangerously close to ‘black face’ territory. 

He's got rosacea, a skin condition that cause his redness and gets worse in the sun.

I don't care about him at all, but it would be a really sly debate technique to show sympathy for him about this problem.

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20 hours ago, Tuco said:

The second half of the text is interesting: 

When I point out what the Democratic Party and their super PACs have done to sabotage our campaign, their response is always, “but Trump is worse.” Here’s an idea: stop suing us. Let us debate. Quit rigging the media and the polls. It’s a simple formula, people—get with it.

1. Doesn't really refute Trump is worse.  What a hollow fucking endorsement, if there is one. 

2. Seems to be fishing for a negotiation rather than explaining a decision.  

That doesn't sound like someone who is actually planning to endorse Trump tomorrow.  They may, but it seems like they are trying to figure out other options. Or they are just terrible at this.

 

Kamala should offer him a cabinet position. Then when it comes time to make the appointment, tell him that all she needs is proof of vaccination.

4 hours ago, lemonlime said:

How do we get as many as possible of the non-cult member 60-70% of the country to show up, and convince the cult members to stay home?

I still like my idea of flooding MAGA channels with panic posts about a super duper scary caravan arriving at the border on Nov 5th.  A call to arms for all true patriots to defend the border on that day is needed.

8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Insert him bragging and taking credit for overturning Roe vs Wade

Everybody wanted it gone. 

12 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Holy shit give this photo/photographer ALLL the awards.

 

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What makes this shot even more incredible is that she was fidgeting around with her sister like crazy during great auntie's speech. Extra props to Kamala for not getting distracted.

11 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

I don't understand this, like at all. His base is very much in favor of a nationwide abortion ban, it's been programed into them since at least the early 80s. The Harris campaign should screenshot that and make it a commercial on Fox News. Make their viewers lose their mind that their conservative god is a baby killer.

3 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I still like my idea of flooding MAGA channels with panic posts about a super duper scary caravan arriving at the border on Nov 5th.  A call to arms for all true patriots to defend the border on that day is needed.

I'd prefer the story that the polling stations have had Corona Virus Vaccine particles injected into the HVAC ducts to pacify and neuter any patriots who mistakenly enter.   They'll enter men and exit soy boys!  Might be traces on the mail in ballots too!

3 minutes ago, locodos said:

I'd prefer the story that the polling stations have had Corona Virus Vaccine particles injected into the HVAC ducts to pacify and neuter any patriots who mistakenly enter.   They'll enter men and exit soy boys!  Might be traces on the mail in ballots too!

The police are outside the polling places and will be rounding up any remaining suspects from the Jan 6 riots when they show voter ID

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