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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

100% this is the plan and the play.  The GQP is the party of lies, all lies, and only lies.  It's all they are, it's all they have.  They are going all-in on telling lies.  

They will inspire violence.  They will cause unrest.  There will be attacks on government bodies.  We are going to have to shoot them.  It's what they want.  So FAFO.

So much this.  It's a GENERALLY true sentiment ("who the president is really doesn't have much impact on me").  But it can change under an extreme outlier.

Analogy: your local water utility has had a general manager of some sort your entire life.  Who that person is has very little effect on your life, precisely BECAUSE each of those GMs runs the utility in line with its established systems and norms.  They don't make any radical, irrational changes.  They tweak and improve processes here and there - some of their ideas work, some don't.  But at the end of the day, you turn on your faucet, and clean water comes out, no matter who is the GM.  BUT....when Insane Idiot GM takes over, shuffles all of the infrastructure maintenance dollars to contracts with his son, Jared Kushner, only focuses on getting clean water to the neighborhoods that supported him politically, and purposefully lets the system feeding neighborhoods that didn't support him go to shit, and implements draconian billing policies that he uses arbitrarily to shut off the water of people who didn't support him, you will notice the FUCK out of hwo your water utility GM is.  

That's the whole fucking point.  A competent leader runs things so that you forget you have a leader (with some exception in times of crisis/black swan events).  If your leader is in the news every day, and you're not at fucking war, then HE IS A SHIT LEADER.

Bolded the only thing that matters.  The story could be Trump raping infants to death, on video, chanting "hail Satan!" while cupping Putin's balls......and he would probably GAIN voters.  Nothing matters.  Nothing.  46% of our country is irrevocably in thrall to a cult of insanity.  We have no way out, and their poison will eventually kill us all.

The bolded is a particular chunk of idiocy that doesn't get enough attention.  The economic devastation of an actual border closure?  Fucking hell, BILLIONS of dollars in no time.  Hell, when abbott implemented just a slowdown at the border, it cost the US economy NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS A DAY.

"Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's short-lived policy of requiring state troopers to conduct secondary inspections of trucks crossing into Texas from Mexico cost the United States almost $9 billion in just 10 days."

Good sir, perhaps you should be added to the newsletter distribution list for my new political party, the FUCK, I WANNA EAT, GODDAMMIT party.

Ain’t nobody reading all that. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Todd Gack said:

Sam Harris has said a few times on podcasts that he's confirmed the hard 'R' video exists.  Wouldn't elaborate on how he knows but he said he was 100% certain.  But as others have pointed out, it would barely move the needle at this point because it would surprise precisely no one.

Imma guess this was Sam's quote: "As a Stanford alum, and valedictorian of my high school, I think it is really interesting to me that there is a video of Donald Trump saying such an awful phrase given my high academic achievements at Stanford and before, but most notably Stanford." 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

the quickest way to flip Texas, increase voter turnout in Houston and Dallas ….

 

Think about how much everyone fucking hates ted cruz.  Now recall how popular and likeable Beto was.  And how many of us had hope, largely because of polling numbers, that a likeable decent person could beat a shitstain fuckstick of a man... and then he lost. 

Also consider that abbott won Uvalde county in a landslide.  Texas is firmly red and any other assertion is fake news IMO.

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21 minutes ago, achooloco said:

 

 

Sorry for the Texags thoughts but they harp on the republicans own “wall” that is 30% of the returned ballots being R means trump is safe. So not sure how accurate their estimate would be but is it possible for both “walls” to be hit? I’ll see if I can find the tweets but forgot where it was over on that cesspool. 

Calling 30% a “wall” is something. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, locodos said:

Lawdogs- wouldn’t that be trespass to chattel? I seem to recall Scot Powe talking about this when he taught some undergrad history of the Surpreme Court (he was awesome). That’s one of the big trespasses, along with person and land, right?

22 minutes ago, The Dog said:

They'll just say whatever comes out is "faked" and MAGA will believe it.

I would be mostly concerned that this is a work, like the George Bush AWOL memo. A fake, planted to discredit an entire narrative annd the press who cover it, and present a bad actor as a victim. George Bush actually did get out of Vietnam through influence and Gore/Kerry served, but the memo story inoculated him, which was likely the purpose of planting the memo.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Here's the rest that's relevant:

This isn't about necessarily WINNING Texas in the short run, IMHO. It's about making Texas competitive.

That cripples the GOP nationally having to put resources here as the Democrats can just focus on Harris and DFW while the GOP has to focus on the rest of this massive state. That will be expensive.

 

Texas GoP loves the low voter turnout. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Lawdogs- wouldn’t that be trespass to chattel? I seem to recall Scot Powe talking about this when he taught some undergrad history of the Surpreme Court (he was awesome). That’s one of the big trespasses, along with person and land, right?

 

Do you think people brought their own TV to the gym?

Also it just turns the TV off, not damages it.

I'll hang up and listen...

Posted
1 minute ago, locodos said:

Do you think people brought their own TV to the gym?

Also it just turns the TV off, not damages it.

I'll hang up and listen...

I would do parental lock on Fox News but the assholes would complain and the owners film everything.

We actually have access to the remotes, but the one time I tried to change it people bitched. At least the sound is off but chyrons alone are rage inducing.

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Just now, Born to Run said:

I would do parental lock on Fox News but the assholes would complain and the owners film everything.

We actually have access to the remotes, but the one time I tried to change it people bitched. At least the sound is off but chyrons alone are rage inducing.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I'd find a new gym.  Life is too short.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

I would do parental lock on Fox News but the assholes would complain and the owners film everything.

We actually have access to the remotes, but the one time I tried to change it people bitched. At least the sound is off but chyrons alone are rage inducing.

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Posted (edited)

I have mixed feelings about Kamala spending time in Texas at this point. Obviously the results will speak to themselves in 2 weeks. Hillary tried to run up the score with NC and FL, but lost them along with WI, MI and PA. That mistake led to Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett. 

But if Harris' team feels confident with the EC map, her attention next has to go to securing the Senate. WV is lost, and Montana looks to be. Beating Cruz may be the best option to keep a 50-50 senate. And if there is some long shot of her taking Texas, that would end any real fight for Trump claiming election cheating.

I assume that that Harris County offers an unique scenario of many voters with low turnout. And it might only take X hours out of her schedule. Wake up the next morning back in the battleground states.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It’s true. Men in Texas are not responding well to the 12oz roll or sage blend. There are indications that until the 16oz roll is returned to market they will go back to making their own sausage like they did thirty years ago, despite agreeing that it’s not as good.

Facts.

Posted
54 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He said he's been sitting on a story for a week that would upend the race (by hurting Trump).  He was vague and didn't mention why he's sitting on it. 

 

i think i figured it out, trump gave out a weird yell at a donors dinner ?

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I have mixed feelings about Kamala spending time in Texas at this point. Obviously the results will speak to themselves in 2 weeks. Hillary tried to run up the score with NC and FL, but lost them along with WI, MI and PA. That mistake led to Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett. 

But if Harris' team feels confident with the EC map, her attention next has to go to securing the Senate. WV is lost, and Montana looks to be. Beating Cruz may be the best option to keep a 50-50 senate. And if there is some long shot of her taking Texas, that would end any real fight for Trump claiming election cheating.

I assume that that Harris County offers an unique scenario of many voters with low turnout. And it might only take X hours out of her schedule. Wake up the next morning back in the battleground states.

spending one fucking day in Harris County is a lot different than what Hillary did.

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If someone is saying it will end his campaign I think it has something to do with straight up insurrection or activity that involved a foreign enemy. Racism doesn't matter and no one things it will end his campaign. 

Whatever it is people are vetting the shit out of it. 

I also think anything older than a year or 2 is not going to move the needle. This has to be a very recent and very current thing for it to be campaign ending. 

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I know someone online who is a constant troll and laps up all the R talking points on the mainstream media etc.  I'm just going to start making fun of him.  Its the easiest thing to do.  He can block me.  I'm fine with that.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, texasdago said:

I know someone online who is a constant troll and laps up all the R talking points on the mainstream media etc.  I'm just going to start making fun of him.  Its the easiest thing to do.  He can block me.  I'm fine with that.

You just described 50% of this website 

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Posted

 

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

If someone is saying it will end his campaign I think it has something to do with straight up insurrection or activity that involved a foreign enemy. Racism doesn't matter and no one things it will end his campaign. 

Whatever it is people are vetting the shit out of it. 

I also think anything older than a year or 2 is not going to move the needle. This has to be a very recent and very current thing for it to be campaign ending. 

unfortunately, I think it's just hyperbole for clicks.

his MAGA support is unwavering and right wing media will say anything to keep it that way. as long as they believe what they are told, then it will be a nothingburger.

Even if right wing media does tell the truth then MAGA will run to Trump social and believe him instead. See the 2020 election and how Fox News changed their tune as viewers flocked to Newsmax and OAN. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I hope they don’t have SCMODS

 

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Or used 1060 West Addison as the address.

 

 

It's all fun and games until you two chucklefucks find out they're on a mission from God. 

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Posted

I hate when journos hype their own shit before it publishes. Just publish it and let the readers decide how important it is. And if it's so important, you wouldn't need to say so beforehand.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, South Austin said:

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Harris taking Texas would turn up the election cheating shit to 13. There absolutely would be violence. 

But if there's even a 10% chance of getting that shitstain Ted Cruz out of Washington, she has to take it. Trading Cruz for a Democrat Senator in the biggest reliable R state in the country...that would be huge.

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Posted
Just now, chainsaw said:

I hate when journos hype their own shit before it publishes. Just publish it and let the readers decide how important it is. And if it's so important, you wouldn't need to say so beforehand.

But muh clicks and engagement. 

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1 minute ago, The Dog said:

 

unfortunately, I think it's just hyperbole for clicks.

his MAGA support is unwavering and right wing media will say anything to keep it that way. as long as they believe what they are told, then it will be a nothingburger.

Even if right wing media does tell the truth then MAGA will run to Trump social and believe him instead. See the 2020 election and how Fox News changed their tune as viewers flocked to Newsmax and OAN. 

Eh. Part of me agrees with you. They won't be deterred. But they can be temporarily suppressed. The same way that Comey's last minute bullshit suppressed Hillary voters into now showing up, or switching to Trump becuase fuck it, something tremendous at the right time can absolutely make a difference. Jan 6 suppressed Trump voters...termporarily. If the Access Hollywood tape had come out a couple weeks before the election, it would have suppressed Trump voters. It's more about timing than it is about longevity. And once Dotard loses, the whole game changes. 

I'm wondering if it's something folks have been sitting on for a long ass time to drop now. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I hate when journos hype their own shit before it publishes. Just publish it and let the readers decide how important it is. And if it's so important, you wouldn't need to say so beforehand.

I think the right wing media is already at battle stations becuase whoever has this shit was shopping it for a payday, and Trump declined. 

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5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

unfortunately, I think it's just hyperbole for clicks.

his MAGA support is unwavering and right wing media will say anything to keep it that way. as long as they believe what they are told, then it will be a nothingburger.

Even if right wing media does tell the truth then MAGA will run to Trump social and believe him instead. See the 2020 election and how Fox News changed their tune as viewers flocked to Newsmax and OAN. 

What of its him talking about how fucking stupid they are including musk and names specific behaviors and events in the recent past which he was scamming the true believers. 

Turning on your base because you actually hate them is definitely possible for him. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

This is also true.

Again, could be perfectly clear video of Trump raping an infant to death, and it will either get no coverage, or the standard spin of "Trump commits infanticide by sodomy: why that is bad for Harris."

The infant shouldn’t be so damn sexy would be their counter. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

Who's the best Wisconsin pundit? Feels like the least-discussed swing state

None. But if Ben Winkler isn’t freaking out, neither am I. Dane County has been nails for Dems since 2016, they won’t let us down 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, immamac said:

If someone is saying it will end his campaign I think it has something to do with straight up insurrection or activity that involved a foreign enemy. Racism doesn't matter and no one things it will end his campaign. 

Whatever it is people are vetting the shit out of it. 

I also think anything older than a year or 2 is not going to move the needle. This has to be a very recent and very current thing for it to be campaign ending. 

Count me in the crew that thinks nothing can be campaign ending. Thats not how cults work. Whatever it is, there will be a justification they can all get on board with. Even if that justification is simply "fake news." These rubes dont live in reality, so whatever happens in reality is easily explained away. 

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