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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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I'm not sure Bezos is even worried about Trump going after him if he wins and WaPo had endorsed Harris. I think Bezos wants Trump to win.

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5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

My annual Washpo subscription was up in mid November. I had previously decided to keep it until today’s news. Just cancelled it.

Me too

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19 minutes ago, elfenix said:

the harris county version of this lies.

went to the west gray amateur hour site. parked around back, walked in, line was short. a minute or two later a poll worker came and asked me if i'd come in through the back, then directed me out front to the line which was more like 135 instead of the 35 then shown on the website. there were a shitton of machines inside, most of which were not in use. the bottleneck is processing drivers licenses.

should have gone to SPJST, then maybe i could have gotten a cheap beer to drink while voting.

Why in the fuck did u not go to the Hampton inn on Washington/I10?

16 minutes ago, WBT said:

When did BBVA become Shell Energy?

/getoffmylawn

It’s going to blow your mind when Minute Maid Park changes it name before next season.

3 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Why in the fuck did u not go to the Hampton inn on Washington/I10?

Maybe he didn’t want to run into you leaving with his mom 

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Well here's (at least part of) their plan:

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On Friday afternoon, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit handed down a shock decision declaring that states may not count ballots that are mailed by Election Day but received shortly thereafter. By its own terms, the ruling applies only to Mississippi, throwing the legality of its voting procedures into question just 11 days before the election. Nationwide, however, 18 states and Washington D.C. accept late-arriving ballots; the 5th Circuit’s reasoning would render all these laws illegitimate and void, nullifying hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of ballots. The court’s obvious goal, aside from destabilizing a close election, is to tee up a Supreme Court decision that could wipe out all these laws in one fell swoop.

The Republican National Committee manufactured this dispute as a test case to end the widespread practice of accepting ballots that come in after Election Day, but are postmarked by Election Day. (Republicans believe that these ballots are disproportionately likely to support Democrats.) The RNC filed its lawsuit in Mississippi because that’s the one state within the 5th Circuit that counts late-arriving ballots, and conservative lawyers knew they could get a favorable ruling from the far-right court. RNC lawyers argued that federal law requires all votes to be received by Election Day, not just cast by Election Day. And they claimed that this federal rule overrides, or “preempts,” state laws to the contrary, including Mississippi’s.

U.S. District Judge Louis Guirola Jr. sharply rejected this argument. He pointed out that, under the Constitution, “the times, places and manner” of federal elections “shall be prescribed” by the states, though Congress may “make or alter” the state’s laws. Congress has not prescribed specific rules for mail ballots, instead leaving those decisions up to the states. The fact that Congress created one “Election Day” does not mean that it intended to void ballots that are cast by that date but, for whatever reason, arrive shortly thereafter.

Now the 5th Circuit has disagreed. The three-judge panel that decided this case is made up of extremely far-right, ultra-partisan appointees of Donald Trump: Andrew Oldham, Kyle Duncan, and James Ho. In his majority opinion joined by Duncan and Ho, Oldham latched onto federal law setting out “the day for the election.” He then declared that this is “the day by which ballots must be both cast by voters and received by state officials.” Oldham asserted that a ballot is not actually “cast” until “the state takes custody of it”—a contested question on which federal law is silent. By fabricating this atextual rule, he was able to insist that late-arriving ballots are actually “cast” after Election Day.

Oldham’s definition of the word “cast” is, to reiterate, not rooted in the text of the law. It also defies common sense: In regular English usage, a person has “cast” their ballot when they’ve returned it—by, for instance, dropping it in the mailbox. By relying on an idiosyncratic definition of the word that does not appear in federal law, Oldham was able to decree that late-arriving ballots are not “cast” on time. He therefore held that Mississippi’s law counting these ballots is preempted by federal statute.


On Friday afternoon, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit handed down a shock decision declaring that states may not count ballots that are mailed by Election Day but received shortly thereafter. By its own terms, the ruling applies only to Mississippi, throwing the legality of its voting procedures into question just 11 days before the election. Nationwide, however, 18 states and Washington D.C. accept late-arriving ballots; the 5th Circuit’s reasoning would render all these laws illegitimate and void, nullifying hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of ballots. The court’s obvious goal, aside from destabilizing a close election, is to tee up a Supreme Court decision that could wipe out all these laws in one fell swoop.

The Republican National Committee manufactured this dispute as a test case to end the widespread practice of accepting ballots that come in after Election Day, but are postmarked by Election Day. (Republicans believe that these ballots are disproportionately likely to support Democrats.) The RNC filed its lawsuit in Mississippi because that’s the one state within the 5th Circuit that counts late-arriving ballots, and conservative lawyers knew they could get a favorable ruling from the far-right court. RNC lawyers argued that federal law requires all votes to be received by Election Day, not just cast by Election Day. And they claimed that this federal rule overrides, or “preempts,” state laws to the contrary, including Mississippi’s.

U.S. District Judge Louis Guirola Jr. sharply rejected this argument. He pointed out that, under the Constitution, “the times, places and manner” of federal elections “shall be prescribed” by the states, though Congress may “make or alter” the state’s laws. Congress has not prescribed specific rules for mail ballots, instead leaving those decisions up to the states. The fact that Congress created one “Election Day” does not mean that it intended to void ballots that are cast by that date but, for whatever reason, arrive shortly thereafter.

Now the 5th Circuit has disagreed. The three-judge panel that decided this case is made up of extremely far-right, ultra-partisan appointees of Donald Trump: Andrew Oldham, Kyle Duncan, and James Ho. In his majority opinion joined by Duncan and Ho, Oldham latched onto federal law setting out “the day for the election.” He then declared that this is “the day by which ballots must be both cast by voters and received by state officials.” Oldham asserted that a ballot is not actually “cast” until “the state takes custody of it”—a contested question on which federal law is silent. By fabricating this atextual rule, he was able to insist that late-arriving ballots are actually “cast” after Election Day.

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Oldham’s definition of the word “cast” is, to reiterate, not rooted in the text of the law. It also defies common sense: In regular English usage, a person has “cast” their ballot when they’ve returned it—by, for instance, dropping it in the mailbox. By relying on an idiosyncratic definition of the word that does not appear in federal law, Oldham was able to decree that late-arriving ballots are not “cast” on time. He therefore held that Mississippi’s law counting these ballots is preempted by federal statute.

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There are massive practical, legal, and historical problems with this theory. The legal reasons are, again, obvious: Congress has never said that late-arriving ballots cannot count; some Republicans have proposed such a rule, but it has not passed. Indeed, federal law is largely silent on how, precisely, states should conduct early voting or mail voting. And in this silence, as Judge Guirola explained, courts must defer to the states, which hold primary authority under the Constitution to prescribe election procedures.

The alternative is chaos. States have spent decades developing their own rules around early and mail voting, many of which would be imperiled by the 5th Circuit’s logic. For instance, if Congress required voting exclusively on “the day for the election,” is all early, in-person voting also unlawful? Oldham said no, but his effort to draw a distinction is incoherent. He claimed that early votes are still “consummated” on Election Day, so they may count. The concept of an election’s “consummation,” though, appears nowhere in federal statute, and therefore cannot distinguish early voting from late-arriving ballots. It is painfully evident that Oldham is just making it up as he goes along.

The historical reasons why Friday’s decision is dead wrong are just as apparent. States have counted late-arriving absentee ballots for more than a century, and federal courts have never stopped them from doing so (until now). Oldham dismissed these historical examples as “outliers,” but he is wrong: The reality is that most states did not allow for broad mail voting until quite recently. Those states that did allow absentee voting frequently counted ballots cast by Election Day that came in shortly thereafter. Oldham simply sought to downplay this clear historical record to make a misleading, cherrypicked case against the practice.

Finally, the practical: Because 18 states and D.C.—including large states like California—already accept late-arriving ballots, the RNC sought a revolution in election law. Most states don’t report exactly how many of these ballots are tabulated each year. But there are a lot: In the 2022 midterms, for example, Clark County, Nevada alone received and counted about 40,000 valid mail ballots after Election Day. Around the country, the number may well reach the millions, especially since California counts ballots received up to a week after Election Day. If the Supreme Court embraced the 5th Circuit’s reasoning, it would nullify all these ballots.

And that, to be clear, is the game plan. In contrast with recent practice, the 5th Circuit did not issue a preliminary nationwide injunction, but directed the district court to “fashion appropriate relief.” It is surely too close to the election to change the rules of the game under the Supreme Court’s Purcell principle. If these lower courts try to do so, it seems likely that SCOTUS will stop them. But the 5th Circuit has now created a vehicle for the justices to visit this issue after the election and potentially strike down nearly 20 states’ laws, making voting exponentially harder in the future.

It’s worth pausing to consider how cynical and political Friday’s decision was. The 5th Circuit could, and should, have held this case until after the election, in recognition that a sweeping decision would cast a pall of confusion and uncertainty over the imminent election. Now Mississippians do not know if their ballots will count should they happen to be slightly delayed by the postal service. Voters in many other states are on notice that the 5th Circuit has announced that, as a matter of federal law, their ballots should be tossed out if they come back slightly late. And people who reject the outcome of the election will seize upon the ruling to claim that the results are illegitimate. The 5th Circuit has given the RNC exactly what it wanted: an excuse to undermine voting rights and reject the legitimacy of the election. It is an appallingly partisan and anti-democratic stunt with potentially catastrophic consequences.

 

6 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Dying industries do irrational things to hold on as long as possible.  They’re usually too late to pivot to whatever is replacing them to gain market share, so they suppress it as long as possible.

Just like buttplug makers who refuse to hop on the Bluetooth vibratory bandwagon.

10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I'm not sure Bezos is even worried about Trump going after him if he wins and WaPo had endorsed Harris. I think Bezos wants Trump to win.

Bezos does want Trump to win, I suspect. A Trump administration won’t go after Amazon for anti-trust, and he needs government contracts for Blue Penis. 

6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

She also said that voters cannot discuss political preferences while waiting in line to vote.

But you can discuss Arnold Palmer’s cock size.

1 minute ago, HalfSack Horn said:

Anyone know the easiest way to watch tonight’s rally in full?  Her website most likely? 

YouTube PBS stream 

1 minute ago, HalfSack Horn said:

Anyone know the easiest way to watch tonight’s rally in full?  Her website most likely? 

you're the ideal poster -ask a question and answer it in the same post. we need more of you

4 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

FWIW, doesn't seem like you say this kind of shit if you think you're about to win.

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

Def not what you say if you think you’re winning the state

Nor this:

3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

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The comments about North Carolina, and what Trump is saying, these are people who are seeing internal poll numbers that are shit for their side.

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't care.  I don't want to subscribe to a media giant that refuses to do its job.  Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos can sit, spin, and blow each other.  My $10 a month isn't gonna make a difference either way.

I wouldn’t tell you to do otherwise and it is a good signal.  Just pointing out that a class of people who are not impacted by the market in any meaningful way means that the market can’t do its job and that they will respond only to the threat of state power. This gives an edge to anyone willing to employ state power for authoritarian means (the GOP) with no democratic or market counterbalance. 

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Israel has begun its retaliatory strikes on Iran, source says

Posting this here as a reminder that Bibi Netanyahu has been more or less openly colluding with Donald Trump on the timing of all this.

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4 hours ago, locodos said:

The fall of Chili's and how it was the high water mark of PAX Americana

4 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Also we haven't yet gotten helobious's opinion on Subway. 

Or Outback 

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

He should.  And it's cool if he does, because thanks to the SCOTUS,  PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY!!!

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

According to the supreme court he would be immune from prosecution if he did. @TwiceHorn is that correct? Serious question. 

3 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

I don't know about murdered but Biden should absolutely order that anyone who tries something be arrested and imprisoned. He's old, he's on the way out, and SCOTUS says he has immunity for official actions. Protection of federal elections is absolutely an official action. Throw them in prison immediately and let SCOTUS sort it out.

The irony is that if America was truly as bad as Trump claims, then Trump’s plane would mysteriously crash or explode like he was an opposition leader in Russia,

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The irony is that if America was truly as bad as Trump claims, then Trump’s plane would mysteriously crash or explode like he was an opposition leader in Russia,

that's silly.

he'd fall out a window or get poisoned.

2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I mailed my ballot today. Fuck Trump. Fuck Vance. Fuck the GQP. 

Also, fuck Eric Adams for trying to change the city charter to give even more power to the mayor.

So no on ballot issues 2-6?

2 hours ago, kevwun said:

So traffic is apparently ruined in Austin because of Trump's visit.  Don't go anywhere near 71 or 35.

Ben white in Austin proper. But that’s just me apparently 

That stadium is packed y'all.

.... and then there's this.

 

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3 hours ago, Js1 said:

She wouldn’t have bothered otherwise. This was legit a “try to get Allred over the line” type of visit. Or else she’d just be in Vegas or Phoenix or Detroit or Philly again 

Alternatively, they know that Tester's toast, Nebraska's a no, and Florida's fucked.

Gotta shoot your shot in Texas.

4 minutes ago, wood said:

That stadium is packed y'all.

.... and then there's this.

 

 

extreme SDE ….

 

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WaPo rebellion has begun:

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Nothing you can do to Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos matters.  They have reached a level of insulation that they are beyond market forces, a new American aristocracy that is threatened only by, and answerable to, the king.  The dynamics here are playing out accordingly.

Or the FTC.

(I know they'll still be rich, but some of their prestige will be diluted).

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

extreme SDE ….

 

LOL. Is that in a hangar here in Austin?

1 minute ago, wood said:

LOL. Is that in a hangar here in Austin?

Sure looks that way, also looks like one that isn't full.  

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Hilarious to imply precision to the tenth of a percent. 

And of course they're still doing it.

45.6 vs 43.9 with 8 point error!

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Pretty much sums it up:

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You would think that Matt Mackowiak, email publisher and Chairman of the Travis County GOP,  would have more to do this close to Election Day than break an “EXCLUSIVE” about somebody else’s podcast,  but since he didn’t even bother to get candidates on the ballot for the vast majority of county races I guess he’s not super busy.

40 minutes ago, Chopper said:

 

Meh, would rather listen to YMCA and God Bless The USA

19 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

big, if true. 


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10 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Sure looks that way, also looks like one that isn't full.  

Yep. Or even half full.

nm. my bad.

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24 minutes ago, wood said:

That stadium is packed y'all.

.... and then there's this.

 

His diaper is definitely packed. 

Just now, wood said:

Knock yourself out, my dude.

dude, that was sarcasm

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So the MSG nazi rally on 10/27 is set for doors open at noon.

looks like I will observe day of the dead that day after this traitor rally but from 12-230 I’ll be walking out there with my fuck trump and trump is a traitor signs. 

 

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27 minutes ago, wood said:

 

I need to see what he looks like walking up and down stairs.

2 minutes ago, quigley said:

I need to see what he looks like walking up and down stairs.

Just imagine a racist walking up and down stairs.  

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