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Posted
23 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

The ou loss should have dropped Bama to 16 or 17. That’s when it was obvious they wanted them in regardless. 

But they beat Georgia! Who (checks notes) almost lost to Kentucky and Georgia Tech.

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1 hour ago, ztejas said:

3 loss B12 patsy doesn't deserve to jump BSU imo. They've played good ball all season. 

Iowa State and Arizona State have 2 losses.

Let's look at a common opponent

Arizona State 48 Wyoming 7

Boise 17 Wyoming 13

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Posted
6 minutes ago, WBT said:

Iowa State and Arizona State have 2 losses.

Let's look at a common opponent

Arizona State 48 Wyoming 7

Boise 17 Wyoming 13

My bad. 

That's a disingenuous comparison even if ASU played them a lot better. ASU got them at home in August - Boise went on the road to Laramie in November. 

BSU has played a slightly worse schedule than ASU and ISU and has 1 loss instead of 2. Another win over UNLV wouldn't be a bad data point. 

There is zero reason the B12 winner should jump BSU if they finish 12-1. 

I don't really care either way, just think it would make 0 sense last minute to make that change. I don't really rate BSU or Indiana but I don't rate the B12 either. Just give me the team with the best record in scenarios like that. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, B00M said:

Elaborate? Georgia is the best offense we’ve played this year isn’t it? 

Were they? One of the frustrating things from that game was that their offense was weak as shit. The Texas offense 3 and outs combined with extremely shitty punting was Georgia's key to success.

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Boise State has won their games but the Mountain West is worse than the Sun Belt. For discussion's sake here are my conference rankings this season. Reminder since I haven't run them in a couple of seasons, my conference ratings use my ratings and are just a ranking of expected winning percentage for each conference if FBS football played a complete round robin.

1. SEC, 1468-420, 0.778
2. Big Ten, 1391-697, 0.666
3. Big 12, 1227-661, 0.650
4. ACC, 1243-746, 0.625
5. Independent, 194-199, 0.494
6. Pac-12, 106-158, 0.400
7. Sun Belt, 637-1043, 0.379
8. MWC, 513-951, 0.350
9. American, 571-1109, 0.340
10. MAC, 396-1068, 0.270
11. C-USA, 274-966, 0.221

 

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these are the schools that matter

 the committee are just stooges that have to argue why these specific teams always seem to get the benefit of doubt and leap others

 

 my two favorite schools are in so I’m all for it lol fuck the other schools

 

 South Carolina deserved it over Alabama but it’s not worth bitching about

 

 tech coach bitching like a bitch saying big 12 team playing for the sec title blah blah blah shut the fuck up

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Posted (edited)

I get the whole who have you played argument and conference competition (or lack of) point, but I didn't fathom a 3 loss team even sniffing a 12 team playoff, unless they earned it by winning their conference championship.

fuck Alabama

 

 

 

,..

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Boise State has won their games but the Mountain West is worse than the Sun Belt. For discussion's sake here are my conference rankings this season. Reminder since I haven't run them in a couple of seasons, my conference ratings use my ratings and are just a ranking of expected winning percentage for each conference if FBS football played a complete round robin.

1. SEC, 1468-420, 0.778
2. Big Ten, 1391-697, 0.666
3. Big 12, 1227-661, 0.650
4. ACC, 1243-746, 0.625
5. Independent, 194-199, 0.494
6. Pac-12, 106-158, 0.400
7. Sun Belt, 637-1043, 0.379
8. MWC, 513-951, 0.350
9. American, 571-1109, 0.340
10. MAC, 396-1068, 0.270
11. C-USA, 274-966, 0.221

 

The numbers suggest a power 4 exists but I still don’t see it. 
 

Actually the big 10 has so many dog shit bottom feeders it actually brings them closer to shitty but competitive conferences like big 12 and ACC so that does actually make sense. 
 

What happens if you only run it with the top 4 conferences?

Posted
13 minutes ago, Zeus said:


 

these are the schools that matter

 the committee are just stooges that have to argue why these specific teams always seem to get the benefit of doubt and leap others

 

 my two favorite schools are in so I’m all for it lol fuck the other schools

 

 South Carolina deserved it over Alabama but it’s not worth bitching about

 

 tech coach bitching like a bitch saying big 12 team playing for the sec title blah blah blah shut the fuck up

This graphic doesn't make sense. I don't see The world class fighting texas aggys listed.

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

1. SEC, 528-288, 0.647
2. Big Ten, 432-450, 0.490
3. Big 12, 374-442, 0.459
4. ACC, 348-502, 0.409
 

Exactly what this season felt like 

Posted
45 minutes ago, markstanco said:


Arkansas actually has a good offense. No idea if better.

OFEI and FPI Offensive efficiency have Arkansas in the 40s, which have Arkansas defense ranked higher than their offense. Georgia top 10 in both offensively.  If you believe in such things.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Cotton Bowl versus SMU would be insane for Dallas. 

There’s an algorithm and group of people with monetary interests that will be seeding everyone just right. It may not make sense but it’s going to be fun

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Zeus said:

There’s an algorithm and group of people with monetary interests that will be seeding everyone just right. It may not make sense but it’s going to be fun

This. I want it to be more Dana White (what are the most interesting matchups that will make the best "fights") and less Oscars (treating CFP and seeding as a sort of achievement award)

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Posted
1 hour ago, Zeus said:


 

these are the schools that matter

 the committee are just stooges that have to argue why these specific teams always seem to get the benefit of doubt and leap others

 

 my two favorite schools are in so I’m all for it lol fuck the other schools

 

 South Carolina deserved it over Alabama but it’s not worth bitching about

 

 tech coach bitching like a bitch saying big 12 team playing for the sec title blah blah blah shut the fuck up

This can’t be correct, no aggy. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, statsman said:

With a win, Texas’ first game would be the quarterfinal. CFP says they will try to match the conference champs with their traditional bowl- so Texas would go to the Sugar Bowl as SEC champ. 
 
After the quarterfinals, the top remaining seed picks its preferred site for a semifinal game

from the two choices: Cotton and Orange. I assume that if Texas gets the choice, it will be the Cotton Bowl game (Arlington). If Texas’ opponent chooses, it will be the Orange Bowl. 

Where do you see this?

I’ve only seen “highest seed” (e.g. Oregon unless they lose Saturday). Nothing I’ve seen says “highest remaining seed”.

 

Posted
4 hours ago, The Dog said:

And they'll drop Penn State behind Domer if Oregon wins, giving the fucking Domers the 5 seed.

Nobody is getting the benefit of the doubt more than those assholes. They haven't beaten anyone worth a crap and they lost AT HOME to a 7-5 MAC team.

i thought this too until i clicked through on the sagarin rankings yesterday

they're #1 ahead of us at #2

Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Where do you see this?

I’ve only seen “highest seed” (e.g. Oregon unless they lose Saturday). Nothing I’ve seen says “highest remaining seed”.

 

Are you asking if Oregon (or whoever is the #1 seed) would get to choose who plays where in the semifinals even if they lose in their quarterfinal? I'm going to guess that no, they would not. So it's pretty clearly the highest remaining seed. 

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Posted

So I had a loss for us dropping us to 6 behind ND, but I think we might stay 5th. That means we get 12 and 4 which are auto qualifiers and won’t be SEC teams. Helps avoid conferences playing each other early. 
Texas v Big 12

PSU v Bama 

ND v Indiana

Tn v Ohio state
 

that would all make sense. 

Posted (edited)

Just wanted to remind everyone here that we will be in our second consecutive playoff and all the other teams can go to hell. I'm not wishing good for any of them. Screw the other SEC teams, Notre Dame and their NIU loss, the Big 12 losers, the Miami trash, the slow ass B1G and all the other garbage.

And a bonus for aggy sitting at home watching us play in Atlanta for an SEC championship in our first year after we went to their overrated tackle box and denied them the opportunity to make it to their first championship game and resolutely knocked them out a chance to make their first playoff. Plus we beat OU's sorrow ass and piggy. All is right with the world.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Alabama has no business in the playoffs. I hate the rankings and am just glad that our team did what they needed to do and didn't leave it up to a bunch of weird ever-changing standards.

Well none of the bubble teams have any business in the playoffs, but one of them has to go in. Almost all of the 80 computer and human polls believe that Bama should be the one that goes in.

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, po elvis said:

Well none of the bubble teams have any business in the playoffs, but one of them has to go in. Almost all of the 80 computer and human polls believe that Bama should be the one that goes in.

Miami lost to Geogia Tech(objectively good team, should have beaten Georgia) by 5 and a good Syracuse team by 3. Both road games. The only reason the ACC isn't seen as a better conference is due to SEC bias and preseason rankings. Seriously, Mizzou fucking sucks. It's not some great win. Yet they were ranked all year and get pumped as a "ranked win" by the SEC teams.

 

Meanwhile Alabama lost more games than Miami and wasn't even competitive against a bad OU team. Alabama isn't that good.

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Miami lost to Geogia Tech(objectively good team, should have beaten Georgia) by 5 and a good Syracuse team by 3. Both road games. The only reason the ACC isn't seen as a better conference is due to SEC bias and preseason rankings. Seriously, Mizzou fucking sucks. It's not some great win. Yet they were ranked all year and get pumped as a "ranked win" by the SEC teams.

 

Meanwhile Alabama lost more games than Miami and wasn't even competitive against a bad OU team. Alabama isn't that good.

Are you fucking kidding me? You think Syracuse and Bama are interchangeable? Texas would chokeslam Syracuse. Bama has the potential to beat Texas in a game, Syracuse doesnt. The SEC is way better than the ACC and that isnt bias, it is just fact. 

 

Also, Miami is a 4 loss team on Bama's schedule.

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Posted (edited)

 

You guys actually meet for days and come up with these rankings??

@CFBPlayoff

Do you actually watch the quality of players, teams, and road environments (we played in one of yours this year ) or just try and make the ACC feel relevant ?? Btw one of your teams paid us not to play again next year. Same #12 spot you guys had Clemson ranked last week. How did that go against the

@SEC

??? Rewatch UGA Clemson closely if you want a reminder of the two conferences. #SpotTheBall anywhere

@ACCFootball

#RemeberTakeAKnee

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Posted
10 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

1. SEC, 528-288, 0.647
2. Big Ten, 432-450, 0.490
3. Big 12, 374-442, 0.459
4. ACC, 348-502, 0.409
 

Pollard has a legitimate point. The 9th Big 12 game is a significant boost to the SOS but is meaningless to the committee which reasons around anything that doesn’t support their preferred outcome. Bama is in for TV ratings, period, regardless of whatever bs they give as their reasoning. It sucks for competition but realignment proved that money is all that matters anymore in CFB and there’s no reason to act surprised or get angry.

I just kind of wish they’d be honest about it instead of always using bs inconsistent reasoning. Here’s all they had to say “Considering Bamas historic popularity and success including their run over the last 15 years, they receive a significant benefit of any doubt. The financial boon they bring to the system benefits everyone so they get the nod.”

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Posted
1 minute ago, 'stache said:

I just kind of wish they’d be honest about it instead of always using bs inconsistent reasoning. Here’s all they had to say “Considering Bamas historic popularity and success including their run over the last 15 years, they receive a significant benefit of any doubt. The financial boon they bring to the system benefits everyone so they get the nod.”

"Bama brings eyeballs.  We like money.  The end." 

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Posted

 

24 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Miami lost to Geogia Tech(objectively good team, should have beaten Georgia) by 5 and a good Syracuse team by 3. Both road games. The only reason the ACC isn't seen as a better conference is due to SEC bias and preseason rankings. Seriously, Mizzou fucking sucks. It's not some great win. Yet they were ranked all year and get pumped as a "ranked win" by the SEC teams.

 

Meanwhile Alabama lost more games than Miami and wasn't even competitive against a bad OU team. Alabama isn't that good.


Put OU in the ACC this year. You really think they go 6-6 and lose to powerhouses like *checks notes* Duke and SMU? 


 

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Are you fucking kidding me? You think Syracuse and Bama are interchangeable? Texas would chokeslam Syracuse. Bama has the potential to beat Texas in a game, Syracuse doesnt. The SEC is way better than the ACC and that isnt bias, it is just fact. 

 

Also, Miami is a 4 loss team on Bama's schedule.

Dude. They got absolutely smoked by a bad OU team. At a time where they knew they couldnt lose. Do you watch games or just blindly think Bama is some good team?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, B00M said:

 


Put OU in the ACC this year. You really think they go 6-6 and lose to powerhouses like *checks notes* Duke and SMU? 


 

.....yes? Did you watch OU this year? They are an objectively bad football team.

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, satyanash said:

So in other words, Alabama is just 3-2 against teams below .500 while Miami is 6-0. Warde Manuel is a complete idiot.

 

It's a committee. They have to come to a consensus on what the tiebreaker should be and this is what they decided on. 

So he's not an idiot - he's just relaying the message that this was what they ultimately decided was the tiebreaker. 

12 hours ago, Skipper said:

For everyone bitching about Bama, who in the fuck should be ranked ahead of them?  I'm sorry - they are MUCH more deserving than fucking Miami.  It was pretty straight forward from my perspective. 

The real test is what they do if Clemson beats SMU.

Huck mentioned this but Bama is ahead of all of Miami, Ole Miss, and USCe in the vast majority of computer rankings: https://masseyratings.com/ranks?s=cf

You can certainly find a few that do not - for example, game control is one of their metrics and Ole Miss is ahead of Alabama in that: https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi/_/view/resume/sort/resume.gamecontrolrank/dir/asc

I think SMU gets left out if they lose. They have the same problems that Miami does - not enough quality wins. 

12 hours ago, dcar00 said:

ND's SOS sucks and their loss is to a MAC team who is 7-5 at Home and their biggest win is aggy.   we would have 2 losses to the SEC champ.  by every available metric other than loss column we should be #5 but Notre Dame will get it because...reasons and get a walk to the semis

ND should be lower with that NIU loss but they are still a 1 loss team AND the computers love them. Also #3 in game control. 

14 hours ago, Js1 said:

 the only teams that can jump Bama in the final rankings are Clemson or ASU. 

 

I could have sworn that he walked this back a bit afterwards. Saying that "the games this weekend will have an impact on the teams that are not playing." Reese flipped his shit when that happened.

Keep in mind that Georgia is kind of the key to all of this - their win over us and their losses to Bama and Ole Miss is doing a LOT of heavy lifting IMHO.

I think there's a chance if we beat UGA that the perception of all of the SEC teams involved will change. 

 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

.....yes? Did you watch OU this year? They are an objectively bad football team.

I mean, the OU team that lost to LSU by 2 TD, lost to fucking paper tiger Mizzou, almost lost to Auburn, scored 3 points against Texas, 26 point loss to SoCar, and almost lost to Houston? 

Most likely would have lost to SMU, Duke, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Miami.  

The Bama game is a total outlier.  It says nothing about OU and everything about Bama either overlooking OU or just not preparing well for them. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, B00M said:

 


Put OU in the ACC this year. You really think they go 6-6 and lose to powerhouses like *checks notes* Duke and SMU? 


 

Yes?

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Posted
50 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Miami lost to Geogia Tech(objectively good team, should have beaten Georgia) by 5 and a good Syracuse team by 3. Both road games. The only reason the ACC isn't seen as a better conference is due to SEC bias and preseason rankings. Seriously, Mizzou fucking sucks. It's not some great win. Yet they were ranked all year and get pumped as a "ranked win" by the SEC teams.

 

Meanwhile Alabama lost more games than Miami and wasn't even competitive against a bad OU team. Alabama isn't that good.

 

Which is why we should want Alabama in

Easier win, more clout from beating them.

they will probably win the first round and face either us or another of the top 4

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