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Hayes is a dumbass. Ole Miss has THREE losses. One of them to 4-8 Kentucky. At some point your bad losses have to mean something. 

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13 hours ago, Halohal said:

Trolling?

 

It's amazing how fucking stupid he is. 

Yeah Kurt - I'm sure that the fucking Mountain West, B12 and ACC are gonna jump Georgia for the 2, 3 and 4 spots.

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Stewart Mandel: Mario Cristobal states Miami’s Playoff case, says Canes were ‘not assessed justly and fairly’

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Miami coach Mario Cristobal said Wednesday his team was not “not assessed justly and fairly” by the College Football Playoff selection committee and hopes it will reconsider its decision to rank the 10-2 Hurricanes at No. 12, one spot below 9-3 Alabama, in its penultimate rankings. As it stands now, Alabama would be the last at-large team to make the cut and Miami the first one out. The Canes dropped from No. 6 to No. 12 following last week’s 32-28 loss at 9-3 Syracuse, which is now the committee’s No. 22 team. “Winning 10 games is exponentially harder than winning nine,” Cristobal said on Wednesday’s episode of “The Audible.” “This whole, ‘This conference is better than that conference,’ some of the teams are, but not all the teams are. Never once were we in a blowout loss against a .500 team.”

Cristobal was referring to Alabama’s 24-3 defeat at 6-6 Oklahoma on Nov. 23, the Tide’s third loss of the season. Selection committee chairman Warde Manuel said Tuesday night that the committee’s placement of Alabama above Miami came down to their performances against top-end teams. The Tide finished the regular season 3-1 against teams in the committee’s current Top 25 while the Canes went 0-1. He also cited Alabama’s 5-1 record against teams with winning records vs. Miami’s 4-2 mark. Cristobal, who was Alabama’s offensive line coach from 2013-16, countered that his team was 4-2 on the road against teams that finished .500 or better while Alabama went 1-3. “I worked at Alabama, and it was an honor to work there, during a time when it (went) on an epic run,” said Cristobal. “But times have changed, football has changed. It’s hard to find a weekend where there’s not several close, tight games and upsets because the margins in college football are super thin. Winning gets harder and harder, and there’s a lot more parity.”

While Cristobal hopes the committee will reassess the two teams, Manuel was adamant Tuesday night that it will not reevaluate teams that have completed their regular seasons. And that would signal that the Miami-Alabama order will not change. The Tide could still miss the CFP, however, if No. 17 Clemson beats No. 8 SMU in this week’s ACC Championship Game and the committee keeps the Mustangs ahead of Alabama. “It needs reexamination and assessment so it can be done the right way,” said Cristobal “So much is on the line.”

 

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1 minute ago, satyanash said:

Stewart Mandel: Mario Cristobal states Miami’s Playoff case, says Canes were ‘not assessed justly and fairly’

 

My Miami dude bro, you’re lucky you’re in  the convo still. You should be 8-4

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3 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

Exactly. I don't get why people act like SMU will be robbed if they lose to Clemson and are out. You can mess around with the cutoffs, but SMU has only played one team in the top 20 and they lost to them. Clemson will be their second. If they go 0-2 against top 20 teams (neither of which are in the top 15), there's no reason why they should get to be in the CFP. On the flip side, Clemson is 0-3 against top 20 teams, so if SMU is even one of the 20 best teams in the country, they should be able to handle Clemson and guarantee their spot in the CFP.

We beat Lousiville on the road who F+ (is that the metric we're using?) has 14th. And Clemson is in the top 15 of that stat at... 15th.

You're all over the place here. I'm fine if SMU misses with a loss to Clemson but let's straighten out the facts a bit. 

I also think the top 6 or so teams in the ACC are pretty solid and the conference really gets bad after that. SMU and Miami had huge OOC wins against TCU and Florida who both wound up being decent. Syracuse beat UNLV OOC. Tech/UGA and Clemson/SCAR both wound up being coin-flips. Louisville played ND within a TD and kicked the shit out of Kentucky in Lexington. 

They way it's shaking out it may just be a one-bid conference but I think 2 ACC bids would be reasonable for the committee to do. As much as I think Miami is a fraud. 

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11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Friday night we will have the first ever team lock in a playoff spot in the 12 team playoff in the UNLV/Boise St game.

And it will be UNLV.

i hope they give a big ol middle finger to the QB and RB that abandoned ship early in the season 

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3 hours ago, DaysOff said:

Man, if they could just expand the playoffs from 4 to 12, it would solve all the gripes about teams being left out.

No one who will be left out has a real legitmate gripe about it IMO

Also, of fucking course they're gonna find any way they can to get Bama in. It's a multibillion dollar TV show in the final analysis

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26 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

And it will be UNLV.

i hope they give a big ol middle finger to the QB and RB that abandoned ship early in the season 

It definitely will embolden the strategy of promising NIL money to get kids on campus and then just not paying it, at least for G5 schools.

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38 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I also think the top 6 or so teams in the ACC are pretty solid and the conference really gets bad after that.

It's the top four - SMU, Miami, Louisville, and Clemson.

The rest of the conference is complete ass.

Just to put it into perspective, the rest of the conference has a total of THREE wins against Sagarin's current top 30. Actually, throw Clemson in there and the total wins is still just three. Dabo's boys haven't beaten anyone this year. They suck.

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17 hours ago, Zeus said:


 

these are the schools that matter

 the committee are just stooges that have to argue why these specific teams always seem to get the benefit of doubt and leap others

 

 my two favorite schools are in so I’m all for it lol fuck the other schools

 

 South Carolina deserved it over Alabama but it’s not worth bitching about

 

 tech coach bitching like a bitch saying big 12 team playing for the sec title blah blah blah shut the fuck up

Aggy must have ran out of TV's...

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5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I'm hoping for UNLV to win also because I think Boise is way overranked. And then the B12 game Saturday is for both a berth and a bye so that one will be even more fun. 

That 3 point loss at Oregon is what is carrying them IMHO.

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What’s more frustrating.

arguing over who is #12 or arguing over who would be the last team in in a 4 team playoff?

I think we can all agree this was the right year to move to 12.

there would be 6-7 teams with a legitimate argument to be the 4th team (assuming Oregon and Texas win Saturday + Notre Dame)

Penn st 2 losses with one loss to Ohio St

Ohio St with 2 losses but an ugly one to scUM

UGA with 3 losses but all to teams in the top 13

Tenn with 2 losses but an ugly one to Arky

SMU, Indiana, Boise St all with 1 loss

 

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6 hours ago, B00M said:

 


Put OU in the ACC this year. You really think they go 6-6 and lose to powerhouses like *checks notes* Duke and SMU? 


 

Yes, OU sucks this season -- much more than their innate suckiness, they are not a good football team.  

If you think OU would beat SMU this season, you don't know shit from shinola.   

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5 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Yes, OU sucks this season -- much more than their innate suckiness, they are not a good football team.  

If you think OU would beat SMU this season, you don't know shit from shinola.   

You picked the top team in the ACC. Now do Florida State, North Carolina, Wake Forest, Virginia, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Stanford, and Cal. That's what I thought. 

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2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

 

The top ACC defense is #24.  6 SEC teams have a better defense than the top ACC defense (3, 5, 16, 18, 22, 23).  

In fact

Miami - 24
SMU - 28
Cal - 41
Duke - 45
GT - 47

SEC has 10 in the top 50 lol 

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5 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

This is a great example of people not understanding how bad the ACC is. Oklahoma is 31st in F+. They would be favored on a neutral field against all of Duke (46th), Georgia Tech(42nd), and Syracuse (50th). Oklahoma would not have had to play all 3 of SMU, Clemson, and Miami, and they would probably be 9-3 instead of Duke. 

Nonsense.  Just look at Bama's resume and rank that team without seeing their helmet.

 

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23 minutes ago, chitown bevo said:

sick of tired of Bama constantly getting a break. they could not even score a TD against BlOu . Garbage they should be out, try again next season.

Agree, buuuuuuttttt if it means Miami gets to sit home and pout, I'm all for it.

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

I'm hoping for UNLV to win also because I think Boise is way overranked. And then the B12 game Saturday is for both a berth and a bye so that one will be even more fun. 

As much fun as I have running down the B12, I have to admit- if Texas got the six seed, I would much rather play UNLV/Boise than ISU in the first round

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The top ACC defense is #24.  6 SEC teams have a better defense than the top ACC defense (3, 5, 16, 18, 22, 23).  

In fact

Miami - 24
SMU - 28
Cal - 41
Duke - 45
GT - 47

SEC has 10 in the top 50 lol 

Total defense is a useless stat. Miami is nowhere near a top 25 defense. They are 60 in scoring defense. ESPN defensive efficiency has them 63 and the 11th best defense in the ACC. SP+ is a bit kinder to them at 39. 

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21 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

Nonsense.  Just look at Bama's resume and rank that team without seeing their helmet.

 

Klatt literally did this and Alabama still came out as the choice.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, satyanash said:

 

The best part of the 12-team playoff is that 8 teams is probably the right number so room was made for #9 and 3 stragglers. So 10-14 get to argue but who cares other then their fan bases. Realistically, these teams have flaws that make them incapable of winning the national championship anyway.

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Random question: do the home schools keep all the revenue from the 1st round playoff games? If so, that's potentially major cash source for programs especially with revenue sharing coming soon.

Think about it: 100,000 tickets at an average of $250 would be $25 million in revenue. Obviously there is a large cost to hosting the event but then you also add in concessions, ads, etc. Idk what that all nets to but it has to be well into the millions. 

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Just now, Tex-19 said:

Random question: do the home schools keep all the revenue from the 1st round playoff games? If so, that's potentially major cash source for programs especially with revenue sharing coming soon.

Think about it: 100,000 tickets at an average of $250 would be $25 million in revenue. Obviously there is a large cost to hosting the event but then you also add in concessions, ads, etc. Idk what that all nets to but it has to be well into the millions. 

So we should tank against UGA to get more money? 

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3 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Random question: do the home schools keep all the revenue from the 1st round playoff games? If so, that's potentially major cash source for programs especially with revenue sharing coming soon.

Think about it: 100,000 tickets at an average of $250 would be $25 million in revenue. Obviously there is a large cost to hosting the event but then you also add in concessions, ads, etc. Idk what that all nets to but it has to be well into the millions. 

No. Schools keep concessions and parking, but the rest goes to the CFP to be dispersed among all schools

from the Atlantic:

All revenue from ticket sales will go to the College Football Playoff, while host sites will get to keep concessions and parking revenue as an offset to hosting costs.

Another interesting factoid, according to The Athletic?

Playoff rules require host sites to set aside 3,500 tickets for the opposing team. An opposing band would be included within that 3,500 ticket allotment. Of the 3,500 tickets, 1,500 will be in the lower bowl.

 

Also:

Among the key bits of information was pricing about the game.

Pricing is standardized across the country in these first round games and will include different price points for seats. General seating prices will range from $100 to 250. Penn State is selling student tickets for $25.

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1 hour ago, chitown bevo said:

sick of tired of Bama constantly getting a break. they could not even score a TD against BlOu . Garbage they should be out, try again next season.

These other teams needed to suck less too though. Sorry Miami, Mississippi, and South Carolina…

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39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

No. Schools keep concessions and parking, but the rest goes to the CFP to be dispersed among all schools

from the Atlantic:

All revenue from ticket sales will go to the College Football Playoff, while host sites will get to keep concessions and parking revenue as an offset to hosting costs.

Another interesting factoid, according to The Athletic?

Playoff rules require host sites to set aside 3,500 tickets for the opposing team. An opposing band would be included within that 3,500 ticket allotment. Of the 3,500 tickets, 1,500 will be in the lower bowl.

 

Also:

Among the key bits of information was pricing about the game.

Pricing is standardized across the country in these first round games and will include different price points for seats. General seating prices will range from $100 to 250. Penn State is selling student tickets for $25.

Interesting. Wonder if that includes suites/club as well

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3 hours ago, locodos said:

Agree, buuuuuuttttt if it means Miami gets to sit home and pout, I'm all for it.

Florida state 2.0

 hope they throw a big ole titty baby fit and all the recruits keep coming to Florida

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

No. Schools keep concessions and parking, but the rest goes to the CFP to be dispersed among all schools

from the Atlantic:

All revenue from ticket sales will go to the College Football Playoff, while host sites will get to keep concessions and parking revenue as an offset to hosting costs.

Another interesting factoid, according to The Athletic?

Playoff rules require host sites to set aside 3,500 tickets for the opposing team. An opposing band would be included within that 3,500 ticket allotment. Of the 3,500 tickets, 1,500 will be in the lower bowl.

 

Also:

Among the key bits of information was pricing about the game.

Pricing is standardized across the country in these first round games and will include different price points for seats. General seating prices will range from $100 to 250. Penn State is selling student tickets for $25.

I want to say the CFP covers the home teams operations cost as well so everything else is profit 

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

 

Die mad you salty bitch | MLTSHP

Someone needs to tell Brett he's g5 now. 

The whining is funny. No team outside the Big 10 and SEC has the depth of legit talent to make a run like will be required to win this thing. It's going to be a war, and if you can't have the best tackle in college football go out in the first quarter then replace him with a red shirt freshman who proceeds to dominate as well? You don't have what it takes. Attrition will take all these other teams down. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Js1 said:

No. Schools keep concessions and parking, but the rest goes to the CFP to be dispersed among all schools

from the Atlantic:

All revenue from ticket sales will go to the College Football Playoff, while host sites will get to keep concessions and parking revenue as an offset to hosting costs.

Another interesting factoid, according to The Athletic?

Playoff rules require host sites to set aside 3,500 tickets for the opposing team. An opposing band would be included within that 3,500 ticket allotment. Of the 3,500 tickets, 1,500 will be in the lower bowl.

 

Also:

Among the key bits of information was pricing about the game.

Pricing is standardized across the country in these first round games and will include different price points for seats. General seating prices will range from $100 to 250. Penn State is selling student tickets for $25.

I mean if you aren't keeping the revenue from ticket sales for youself then why fuck over your fans? Make the seats the cheapest allowed

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