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12 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Chris Hayes said earlier that the White House hasn't been damaged like this since the War of 1812. 

Remember when Dotard promised that the construction of his Emperor's throne room wouldn't damage the White House?

 

Well....it was completely gutted during the Truman administration to restore it, but only because it was in danger of collapsing.

I'm guessing ole' Harry asked the House and Senate for permission to do the work, however.

 

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2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Whoa--hold on here, friend.

Submarine attacks on merchant shipping was not solely a German practice.  It was the practice of the United States Navy to attack Japanese merchant vessels (both cargo and passenger) from the outset of the War in the Pacific, in direct contravention of the 1936 London Protocol on Submarine Warfare. 

The primary difference is that the USN's unrestricted submarine warfare was successful.  By Summer 1945, the Japanese merchant fleet had been destroyed; the Home Islands were on the precipice of starvation.  But wasn't different was the targeting of passenger ships without forewarning.  For example, In 1942, USS Grenadier sunk the Taiyō Maru on its way from Manila to Singapore, killing more than 1,000 civilians.  In 1944, USS Nautilus sunk the passenger liner America Maru, killing around 500 civilians (mainly women and children) evacuating Saipan.  

As to gas attacks, both sides used prodigious amounts of gas during World War I.  Neither side used gas in World War II, but the historical record pretty clearly establishes that Britain would have done so had Germany invaded England.

So you know what--let's focus on things that actually show the moral shortcomings of the Germans and maybe lay off where we ourselves live in a glass house.

Those particular named vessels had been requisitioned into IJA/IJN service. And in the case of the first one, was being used to bring technicians and administrators to run illegally conquered territories. Would sort of be like the Ukrainians shooting down an Aeroflot charter that the Russian Aerospace Forces were using to fly occupation authorities into Mariupol. 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Well....it was completely gutted during the Truman administration to restore it, but only because it was in danger of collapsing.

I'm guessing ole' Harry asked the House and Senate for permission to do the work, however.

 

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Well in mid 1945 everyone learned that you don’t say no to Harry s Truman. 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Well....it was completely gutted during the Truman administration to restore it, but only because it was in danger of collapsing.

I'm guessing ole' Harry asked the House and Senate for permission to do the work, however.

 

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I was completely unaware of this.

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

" The White House is reprogramming billions in congressionally approved spending during the shutdown, aiming to pay troops, ICE agents and others who work on programs that fulfill the president's political agenda."

Bypassing our elected representatives budget, kinda seems like we are now in "Taxation without Representation" territory. 

 

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25 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

imagine if obama had started tearing down the white house 

Now imagine him giving that order while wearing a tan suit.

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https://www.lawdork.com/p/trump-demolition-of-the-east-wing-photos

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Photos obtained exclusively by Law Dork on Tuesday show that President Donald Trump is completely demolishing the East Wing of the White House as part of his stated plan to build a ballroom befitting his standards on the White House grounds. 

Although Trump earlier had said the ballroom “won’t interfere with the current building,“ this week it became abundantly clear that was a lie. And, this dramatic change to the governmental building, Trump says, is happening care of private money and outside of any governmental — and transparent — funding process.

 

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After The Washington Post first reported on Monday that demolition had begun, The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday night that Treasury Department employees next door to the demolition were told to “refrain from taking and sharing photographs of the grounds, to include the East Wing, without prior approval from the Office of Public Affairs.“

On Tuesday, Law Dork obtained these photographs taken of the ongoing demolition.

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Although the Post’s initial story detailed the “East Wing facade“ being demolished and that teams on Monday were “demolishing a portion of the East Wing,“ the Tuesday photograph obtained by Law Dork makes clear that most if not all of the entirety of the East Wing is being demolished. 

A second photo obtained by Law Dork from another angle shows the extent of the demolition has already reached all but the western and northern walls of the East Wing.

 

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One of the most complete reports that I have found on what is known about what is going on comes from Bryan Gottlieb at Engineering News-Record.

In the report, he noted that “[t]he project, announced July 31 by the White House, will be built by Clark Construction Group with AECOM as engineer and McCrery Architects as designer.” 

Additionally, Gottlieb explained:

Regulatory filings show that as of Sept. 4 no submission had been made to the National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC), which reviews major federal projects in the capital region.

Commission Chairman Will Scharf, who also serves as White House staff secretary, said during a public meeting that “what we deal with is essentially construction, vertical build,” explaining why demolition and site-preparation work began before NCPC review. The interpretation leaves design oversight unresolved, even as groundwork proceeds.

The ENR report also noted that Executive Order 11593, signed by Richard Nixon, is applicable to the work. Other resources, including a 2014 report from the National Park Service that was highlighted by the Post, address other relevant authorities, including a 1961 law signed by John F. Kennedy that the White House Historical Association describes as “legislating the White House’s status as a museum and extending legal protection to donated period furnishings and all White House objects.“

It is not clear that the Trump administration consulted with any of these laws or orders, let alone followed them, before demolition began on Monday. 

This is, in addition to everything else, yet another example of Trump using his office to get people to give him money. As Trump wrote on Truth social on Monday, “The White House Ballroom is being privately funded by many generous Patriots, Great American Companies, and, yours truly.“

Generous. Sure.

 

 

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Just saw a video 'Can the President demolish the White House?' Well, based on the fact that it's in a pile of rubble it seems like the answer is 'yes'. Just like everything else he does...who's going to stop him?

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So, the guy who admitted to having a Nazi streak is no longer up for promotion, but he gets to keep his current role, and this country is so insane that this only gets a couple of minutes on CNN?

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24 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

So, the guy who admitted to having a Nazi streak is no longer up for promotion, but he gets to keep his current role, and this country is so insane that this only gets a couple of minutes on CNN?

Don't forget, the next candidate put forth will likely have a Nazi streak, but has hidden it better. 

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49 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

So, the guy who admitted to having a Nazi streak is no longer up for promotion, but he gets to keep his current role, and this country is so insane that this only gets a couple of minutes on CNN?

Bingo

47 minutes ago, tx ind said:

It’s not like he wore a tan suit

And bingo

25 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

Don't forget, the next candidate put forth will likely have a Nazi streak, but has hidden it better. 

And bingo bingo.

 

The GQP is a white supremacist "christian" nationalist party, which actually has as its primary function the creation of grift and oligarchy.  That's it.  That's the whole thing.

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1 minute ago, wild_turkey said:

 


I think the people with the most power are not Christian nationalists, but they allow Christian nationalists beneath them to push the agenda because it sows division in the common people and division benefits the oligarchs. Trump doesn’t give 2 shits about Christianity. Neither does Elon or Adelson or many of his other billionaire supporters. Christian nationalism is merely a tool they can use when they need it, and otherwise allow it to fester and give their political allies something to whine about..

The white supremacy part is entirely valid at the very top and throughout parts of the GOP.

 

That's why I added the "primary purpose" clause.  The white nationalist and christian nationalist "elements" are mostly manipulations used to achieve the primary purpose.  Yes, there are ABSOLUTELY true believers in both white nationalism and christian nationalism in positions of power, but they are mostly useful idiots who may not even realize that they are being used to perform the real mission of the party: the transfer of any and all power and agency from The People to The Oligarchs.

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12 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well in mid 1945 everyone learned that you don’t say no to Harry s Truman. 

Bonus internet points to you, sir for knowing not to put a '.' after the S

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27 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

 


I think the people with the most power are not Christian nationalists, but they allow Christian nationalists beneath them to push the agenda because it sows division in the common people and division benefits the oligarchs. Trump doesn’t give 2 shits about Christianity. Neither does Elon or Adelson or many of his other billionaire supporters. Christian nationalism is merely a tool they can use when they need it, and otherwise allow it to fester and give their political allies something to whine about..

The white supremacy part is entirely valid at the very top and throughout parts of the GOP.

 

Yep, MAGA is a motley coalition of people with highly retrograde views that center on white supremacy.  Past that, a lot of them are at odds with each other and once and if "the dog catches the car" and they attain power, it's going to turn into an even bigger shit show as the coalition dissolves into infighting.

Even Yarvin, who advocates for a benign dictator, admits that the benign part may be hard to pull off, because he can't ignore history.

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Again, if impeachment is off the table for his daily Watergates, maybe dem “leadership” should explain why. Considering that is our only legitimate recourse outside of just waiting for him to keel over.

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Dotard has probably already pilfered the US Treasury's $230MM

 

An interesting facet here.

It seems that this is two FTCA claims, filed in 2023 and 2024, during the Biden Administration.

As noted above, six months after a claim is filed, the claimant has the option of treating it as "denied by operation of law."   That is, they can file suit.  Like a Motion for New Trial in Texas is deemed denied after 75 days.  However, unlike Texas MNT practice, that apparently is only an option, it doesn't force the filing of suit.  The claimant can wait until the claim is actually denied to file suit.

So, the Biden DOJ could have denied the claims, forcing Trump to file suit.  Similarly, the Trump DOJ has had ample time to grant or deny the claims.  The Biden DOJ obviously should have denied the claims.  It's a mystery why the Trump DOJ didn't do so quietly and in early 2025.  Now the cat is out of the bag.

Trump doesn't want to file suit, because he will lose.

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1 hour ago, yoladu said:

if you put enough American flags around the demolition site, it will look like a patriotic act.

 

DJT memorial WH bricks will soon be for sale 

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Nearly two-thirds of Americans believe the U.S. is headed in the wrong direction, fueled by dissatisfaction with President Trump's impact on the economy, immigration, race relations and the nation's global standing, according to a new poll with a big, broad sample. Even among Republicans, a significant share — nearly 30% — gave Trump low marks on the economy and how the government is functioning.

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14 minutes ago, Chopper said:

 

Nearly two-thirds of Americans believe the U.S. is headed in the wrong direction, fueled by dissatisfaction with President Trump's impact on the economy, immigration, race relations and the nation's global standing, according to a new poll with a big, broad sample. Even among Republicans, a significant share — nearly 30% — gave Trump low marks on the economy and how the government is functioning.

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Yes, we've been saying this on this very website for 10 years.

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6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why?  Was his middle name literally just S?

He did not have a middle name.  I think the story goes he just threw the 'S' in there to make his signature look more distinguished but it was not an abbreviation of anything thus no period after it.

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43 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The NYC raid was with no involvement from NYPD. Just ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, IRS-CI and CBP. They've kept quiet about it, a sign of an authoritarian gov't. They detained citizens, protestors and vendors. gift link https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/federal-agents-detain-mix-of-protesters-and-migrants-in-massive-manhattan-sweep

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Surprisingly, fnc site has a different perspective on the nyc raid in their headline. I don’t want to search it to link it, maybe someone else will. I saw it on my work computer windows news feed. 

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

He did not have a middle name.  I think the story goes he just threw the 'S' in there to make his signature look more distinguished but it was not an abbreviation of anything thus no period after it.

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Proud Boys Should Be Deputized to Hunt Migrants, Says GOP Candidate

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-should-be-deputized-hunt-migrants-says-gop-candidate-10911466

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A January 6 defendant running for U.S. Senate in Florida has told Newsweek that he supports deputizing the Proud Boys and other participants in the Capitol riot to carry out immigration enforcement.

"I would deputize the Proud Boys and the January 6 Patriots to bounty hunt illegal immigrants," Jake Lang told Newsweek in an interview.

 

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Trump trying to pay himself $230 million in tax payer money as reparations for prior DOJ investigations is really going to piss off all these fiscal conservatives.  And in the middle of a government shutdown, with military members about to stop getting their checks?  Man, he's gone too far this time.  This is gonna be good.

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1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Trump trying to pay himself $230 million in tax payer money as reparations for prior DOJ investigations is really going to piss off all these fiscal conservatives.  And in the middle of a government shutdown, with military members about to stop getting their checks?  Man, he's gone too far this time.  This is gonna be good.

 

there are no fiscal conservatives 

also, he didn't use his money 

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19 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Trump trying to pay himself $230 million in tax payer money as reparations for prior DOJ investigations is really going to piss off all these fiscal conservatives.  And in the middle of a government shutdown, with military members about to stop getting their checks?  Man, he's gone too far this time.  This is gonna be good.

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I just texted a friend, "Over a 72 hour period, he 1) Released a video of him dressed as a king dropping shit all over the American people, 2) Destroyed a huge chunk of the White House after promising he wouldn't, and 3) Demanded a quarter-billion dollars of taxpayer money for himself." Did I miss anything? 72 hours. 

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

I just texted a friend, "Over a 72 hour period, he 1) Released a video of him dressed as a king dropping shit all over the American people, 2) Destroyed a huge chunk of the White House after promising he wouldn't, and 3) Demanded a quarter-billion dollars of taxpayer money for himself." Did I miss anything? 72 hours. 

It's a horse.  In a hospital.

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why?  Was his middle name literally just S?

My grandpa's middle name was the letter T, something about my great-grandparents couldn't read or write worth a shit, so when they filled out some paperwork for him as a baby they wrote the name all messed up, and it looked like the letter T. They just ran with it type of thing for the rest of his life. /csb



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