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30 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

….allegedly…. but given that both Vince and Amy were their spouses’ big financial resource (and divorce the last bite at the money apple), the fact that lawyers for their exes went after them with any salacious claim that would help them in the court of public opinion - and perhaps help get more $ in a better settlement - isn’t that far-fetched a guess either.   But I don’t give a shit if they did.  They seem like soulmates and very much in love for a long time. That is about the best thing you can find in life.

fucking lawyers.

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Sounds like this mosque getting some attention might be a silver lining.  All jokes aside, this is probably the only bit of radical propaganda this guy has ever spoken.  I don't think there could possibly be anything else noteworthy about the leadership at this particular mosque regarding potential terror threats.  

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, BillyGoatHill said:

Someone here is claiming to have been her girl toy out on the road. Still waiting for pics/Love's Truck Stop food receipts for confirmation.

 

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Amy Grant is definitely stopping at Petro. Iron Skillet rules.

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10 hours ago, Helobious said:

Hell of a world we live in. It can be a mass shooting, a bombing, an attack like this. None of it is shocking at all anymore, doesn’t even matter the culprit or the reason. Already feels like this story is losing steam. 

Only you could not have predicted it.

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15 hours ago, jkates said:

This is the dumbest critique of Art Bell but it's prevalent. At the end of the day, people need to stop acting like Art Bell's job is to be some kind of truth cop. He gives his guests a platform to speak, and it’s up to us to listen critically and think for ourselves. Isn’t that how it should be?

  1. Who Decides What’s "Misinformation"? This word gets thrown around way too much these days. What’s called “misinformation” today might turn out to be true tomorrow (or at least worth considering). Tons of ideas that were once mocked are now common knowledge.

  2. Hearing Different Opinions is Valuable: Art Bell's radio program is all about bringing on guests with different perspectives. Some agree with the mainstream; some don’t. So what? That’s the point! You don’t have to agree with everything, but hearing different sides is how you grow.

  3. Free Speech, Anyone? It’s a radio show, not a fact-checking newsroom. The beauty of Art Bell's style is that it’s just open conversation. If he pushed back on every little thing, it’d feel fake and scripted. Let people talk, and let the audience figure it out.

  4. The Audience is Not Dumb: This is the internet. People know how to Google. If they hear something wild on the radio, they can dig deeper and decide for themselves. Art Bell's listeners aren’t all mindless drones.

  5. Experts Disagree All the Time: A lot of Art Bell’s guests are legit experts or people with unique experiences. Just because their opinions don’t match the mainstream doesn’t mean they’re wrong. Sometimes, going against the grain is what moves things forward.

  6. Avoiding Echo Chambers: Shutting down certain ideas just because they’re “controversial” is how you end up in an echo chamber. Art Bell’s "Coast to Coast AM" is one of the few places left where people can explore weird or unpopular opinions.

  7. Intent Matters: Misinformation and disinformation aren’t the same thing. Disinformation is about lying on purpose, and most of Art Bell’s guests aren’t out here trying to deceive anyone. They’re just sharing what they know or believe.

  8. Talking About Controversial Stuff is How We Learn: When guests say something spicy, it sparks conversations and debates. That’s how ideas get tested and refined. Shutting it all down would just make people suspicious anyway.

 

When put another way . . . 

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10 hours ago, Helobious said:

Hell of a world we live in. It can be a mass shooting, a bombing, an attack like this. None of it is shocking at all anymore, doesn’t even matter the culprit or the reason. Already feels like this story is losing steam. 

We as a nation don't give a single fuck about classrooms of children getting mowed down by gunmen. Haven't for more than a decade. Why would this be any different?

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1 hour ago, Samson's Wig said:

When put another way . . . 

...everyone is an idiot except you and me, and I am not too sure about you.

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9 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I watch the content of the videos. Y’all ignore it, every time. It’s a played out, tired tactic. And calling me Islamophobic is absolutely the same as me calling you antisemitic. It’s not productive whatsoever. 

Where does calling people antisemitic pedophiles fall on your hypocrisy scale?

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4 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

I see Thursday Night Ana made an appearance last night.

 

21 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Seems like the Vegas guy may have really been an accident. Dude was apparently a big Trumper. Seems to me there's a decent-to-strong possibility he was also an Elon fan, rented a Cybertruck because he thought they're cool, and was planning to go camp in the desert and shoot off a bunch of fireworks. Then the Cybertruck caught fire because, well, they just do that sometimes, or perhaps fumes were leaking from the camping fuel he had in the back and ignited.

Of course, from the "it was intentional" angle, he is divorced. 

 

15 hours ago, Anastasis said:

That one held together for all of about 5 seconds. 

 

 

Sounds like someone needs some cranberry juice. 

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17 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

When it’s clear propaganda I don’t reference it. When it’s terrible people protesting causes that I detest, and it’s clear from the video, I comment - typically when the clowns inevitably try and discredit the messengers whilst ignoring the content. I suspect you’ll say it’s all propaganda and well, you’re wrong. 

Dude click through the profiles he posts and look at some of their other tweets and posts. They're nearly all anti-vaxxers, #PLANDEMIC truthers, so-called Jan6 patriots, and folks retweeting tucker carlson. I don't think those sorts of people are good sources of information, as they have already thoroughly demonstrated their scorn for facts.

I know you think it's all bullshit because you looked at one link and it was fine, but man you gotta have more than one level of curiosity and critical thought. Pronghorn posts and incredible deluge of bullshit, some of it is deleted/moderated on by fucking TWITTER just hours after he posts it even.

 

Anyways, can you stop thread shitting Rex? I thought you stopped caring about this pages ago. 

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16 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Anyways, can you stop thread shitting Rex? I thought you stopped caring about this pages ago. 

I'm trying to catch up on latest and 1/3 of the damn thread is some Amy Grant tangent.  I think we're past the point of calling out thread shitting.

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49 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Two major events on New Years and we have a thread about Joe Rogan and pr0nghorns twitter usage.

And it is not even the off season.

 

48 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I'm trying to catch up on latest and 1/3 of the damn thread is some Amy Grant tangent.  I think we're past the point of calling out thread shitting.


 

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5 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t listen to Rogan. I’m not a Pronghorn white knight. You and Captain are ultra critical and dismissive of his embedded tweets, because you so desperately want to be contrarian in your case, and forward thinking in Captain’s case. I had you both on Ignore for much of ‘24 and took you off to start the new year. When Pronghorn posts an embedded video, you two Pavlov’s dogs come sprinting. You’ll attack the author of the tweet in foolish attempt to discredit, and Captain will make a Russian plant remark. Like clockwork. 

I watch the content of the videos. Y’all ignore it, every time. It’s a played out, tired tactic. And calling me Islamophobic is absolutely the same as me calling you antisemitic. It’s not productive whatsoever. 

The point wasn't that you're a Rogan listener, it's that you're just like him. You definitely are a pronghorn white knight. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that 95% of his posting is twitter ragebait slop from various Nazi-adjacent accounts and starts posting every day around 8AM Moscow time. Of course I go after the source, dumbass, that's how you verify the sources of information that you consume. As has already been mentioned, proudly telling everyone you just guzzle all the slop uncritically is not a flex and you should be embarrassed to admit it in front of everyone.

Also, no, it's not the same, at all, but I've given up trying to get it through your thick fucking skull so please shut the fuck up and put me back on ignore, it was much better that way.

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2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

The NYE attacks were obviously a distraction to keep people in NJ from taking pictures of drones (that were actually commercial airplanes) 

Supposed manifesto from the LV terrorist floating around. No idea the veracity of the sources involved, but if it is legit it’s directly fucking drone aligned. Talk about drones, war crime coverups in Afghanistan, etc. what a world. 

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8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Supposed manifesto from the LV terrorist floating around. No idea the veracity of the sources involved, but if it is legit it’s directly fucking drone aligned. Talk about drones, war crime coverups in Afghanistan, etc. what a world. 

It was released on the Shawn Ryan show, who is apparently some chud with a podcast. I'm pretty skeptical.

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I am hearing it from some SF friends. Dude was legit and there at the time. Big item was used a tesla since it could drive there on its own. Also bomb was so amateur some badass SF dude would not have made it.

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3 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Two major events on New Years and we have a thread about Joe Rogan and pr0nghorns twitter usage.

And it is not even the off season.

i mean, literal top to bottom...

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I'm inclined to believe that an insignificant "explosion" with zero damage to anything but the driver and the vehicle itself is part of some mass conspiracy.  I mean, we're all living in a post-Vegas-cybertruck-explosion world now, aren't we?  One guy didn't pull this off on his own, that's for sure.   

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6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Also bomb was so amateur some badass SF dude would not have made it.

This is the real head scratcher in my mind. Seems like this guy could have rigged the batteries to explode and set off a bunch of secondaries in the bed. But he swallows a bullet and sets off some fireworks? That shit feels either very rushed or very fucking lazy for an operator. 

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4 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

I'm inclined to believe that an insignificant "explosion" with zero damage to anything but the driver and the vehicle itself is part of some mass conspiracy.  I mean, we're all living in a post-Vegas-cybertruck-explosion world now, aren't we?  One guy didn't pull this off on his own, that's for sure.   

I read that firework fuel can't melt or explode steel (or whatever the fuck cybertrucks are made up of). It was an inside job. 

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18 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

It was released on the Shawn Ryan show, who is apparently some chud with a podcast. I'm pretty skeptical.

Not familiar with Ana’s oeuvre? Easily the most maliciously Kremlin-aligned actor we have here. 

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NBC has some reporting:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/soldier-died-cybertruck-motive-criticizing-government-rcna186182

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Dori Koren, an assistant sheriff with the Clark County/Las Vegas Metropolitan Police, said investigators were able to access one of two phones found in the Cybertruck and viewed writing in an app that served almost as a journal, documenting some of Matthew Alan Livelsberger's movements and state of mind from Dec. 21 to New Year's Eve.

Two letters in the phone app appear to point to a motive in the blast, Koren said. In one, he tells "fellow service members, veterans and all Americans" it's time to "wake up" because the country's leadership is "weak" and "only serves to enrich themselves."

A second letter appeared to shed more light on Livelsberger's thinking.

"We are the United States of America, the best country ... to ever exist, but right now, we are terminally ill and headed towards collapse," the letter said. "This was not a terrorist attack. It was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives. ... I need to cleanse my mind of the brothers I’ve lost, and relieve myself of the burden of the lives I took."

Livelsberger expressed other grievances, including about conflicts elsewhere, domestic issues, societal issues and personal challenges, Koren said. He noted investigators continue to go through evidence found on the cellphone, and Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McMahill said investigators have been unable to access a second phone found in the Cybertruck.

 

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13 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Not familiar with Ana’s oeuvre? Easily the most maliciously Kremlin-aligned actor we have here. 

Your horn only has one note. But keep tooting it.

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4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Sorry bro. Kremlin talking points. The propaganda artist out front told you already. 

Here’s Ana conflating actual reporting with whatever he’s found from the chud/sewer levels of the internet.  As I said. 

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Here’s Ana conflating actual reporting with whatever he’s found from the chud/sewer levels of the internet.  As I said. 

first time GIF

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Is it the reference to the Afghanistan war crimes thing thats got under your skin? Is that the so called kremlin-aligned talking point? It must be nice to live in a world where such a thing impacting a SF operator and loosening up a couple screws is so unfathomable. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Is it the reference to the Afghanistan war crimes thing thats got under your skin? Is that the so called kremlin-aligned talking point? It must be nice to live in a world where such a thing impacting a SF operator and loosening up a couple screws is so unfathomable. 
 

 

Can you show the class your source, Ana? 

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This is all I've been able to find:

https://www.newsweek.com/matthew-livelsberger-alleged-manifesto-read-full-email-sent-retired-soldier-2009573

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Is Manifesto Real?

After the alleged manifesto began circulating on social media following the podcast, reporters asked Las Vegas police and the FBI at a press conference if the suspect had written it. Authorities said they believe the letter shared by Shawn Ryan was authored by the bombing suspect.

 

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The fbi spokesman said that they “have strong evidence that suggests it was the subject that wrote it, but that they had not conclusively proven it yet”. Not kremlin talking points. Right out of the mouth of the fbi rep at the podium.

Here is a cbs article that gets at the content  

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-cybertruck-bombing-matthew-livelsberger-letter-mental-health-crisis/

A review of Livensberger's social media posts, interviews with friends who knew him well, and most pointedly, his email to Shoemate, offered indications he may have been struggling with those issues. On Friday, Shoemate discussed the letter on The Shawn Ryan Show, a podcast where Ryan, a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor, interviews individuals primarily from the national security space. 

In the email obtained by CBS News, Livensberger referenced his ongoing concerns about civilian casualties caused by an airstrike in Afghanistan. The incident he mentioned appears to align with reports of U.S. airstrikes in May 2019 targeting alleged drug-processing facilities in Afghanistan, where more than 30 civilians, including children, were reportedly killed.

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