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28 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

LCRA "We do not anticipate needing flood control release at this time."

Two hours later starts flood releasing.

LCRA is some hillbilly that looks out his window and opens the gate when the water shows up.

 

It could fill but I’m not convinced it will. The next 20 feet are a lot more voluminous and as a designated flood control lake it has 40 more feet available for fill. 

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

Rudy during 9/11 comes to mind, CA wildfires come to mind, I remember the Bastrop fire pressers being informative, that’s just off the top of my head. 

Which fires? There were 2. And HEB and USAA were there before the state 

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1 minute ago, troph said:

Rudy during 9/11 comes to mind, CA wildfires come to mind, I remember the Bastrop fire pressers being informative, that’s just off the top of my head. 

Ah the good old salad days of youth when we had lauded leadership by such solid humans as Rudy Drooliani. 

My how far we have fallen.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't think it can be parsed that fine.  This is thread for the July 4 floods, period.  There was a press conference.  It was a circle jerk.  People are angry that they aren't getting information.  It's not "CR" to be angry about a lack of information due to grandstanding politicians.

There is no way to split hairs between threads to that degree.  No way.

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Just now, troph said:

It could fill but I’m not convinced it will. The next 20 feet are a lot more voluminous and as a designated flood control lake it has 40 more feet available for fill. 

Bet you $50 to your favorite charity it fills and  separately we are releasing water in two weeks from Mansfield 

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

It could fill but I’m not convinced it will. The next 20 feet are a lot more voluminous and as a designated flood control lake it has 40 more feet available for fill. 

How’s your cistern doing? What happens if/when it gets to 100%?

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

 

How do I know no one was monitoring, or they didn’t have a plan, or there was negligence? Because a fuck ton of fucking little girls are dead, motherfucker. Either they didn’t have a plan, they didn’t have someone monitoring, or the person monitoring was negligent and fell asleep or fucked off to do whatever. Because the people sounding alarms were consistent from 12 hours before and got increasingly urgent through the night and finally issued a warning that could have gotten girls out of cabins before they woke up “by water at their chins.” The kids aren’t woken up by the water itself unless, somewhere, there is fucking negligence. The proof is the dead children. 

100% absolutely this 

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1 minute ago, Born to Run said:

Bet you $50 to your favorite charity it fills and  separately we are releasing water in two weeks from Mansfield 

I’m not in a position to take a hard look I’m in Mexico so that was an off the cuff remark but the charity part is  intriguing. 

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15 minutes ago, alexis texas said:

Here are a few flood maps that should help clarify the layout of the camp.

1 - Mystic Overall.jpg

2 - Mystic Guadalupe.jpg

3 - Mystic Cabins.jpg

Thank you for these maps and details. Really lays it out for folks who have not been on property. 

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2 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Bet you $50 to your favorite charity it fills and  separately we are releasing water in two weeks from Mansfield 

Two weeks?  Mansfield? I'll take that bet.  The top 20' of Lake Travis are... massive.  This is what it's made for.

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1 minute ago, phdhorn said:

Update:
3 p.m. NWS bulletin didn't really have much different.. lots of rain, system not going anywhere significant, hopefully some downshifting with nighttime (although these things can ramp up overnight, one hopes the atmosphere gets some stability and quits for awhile).

My hope is that the system will meander slowly to the E, following a track it's already been taking. Today was Austin's day to get the brunt, so hopefully it'll move east of us tonight, as I've posted today. The rains today were decent but definitely more light/moderate than prolonged heavy (and at least there's been movement of the storms and not all that much training, they've been circulating in frontal (i.e. perpendicular to their movement) direction).

Tomorrow's forecast is interesting, I'll post iater tonight (not terrible but not particularly the usual). Just want to get more confirmation about it. Anything on your mind hit me up here.

 

Is this still tropical and may possibly ramp up again at night or would daytime heating fire the storms up now.

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16 minutes ago, royiv said:

How’s your cistern doing? What happens if/when it gets to 100%?

Watching remotely we have enough overflow valves to be ok. We can even open our hose bibs and drain that way too. Rain at our place is heavy but normal. I think we’ve had 4-5 inches total. We’ve gone from 23,000 gallons to 36,000 and counting. 

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11 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

Is this still tropical and may possibly ramp up again at night or would daytime heating fire the storms up now.

Unfortunately, it's tropical and that means a relatively consistent layer of warm air and ground at mid levels. As this air rises it cools and doesn't need the Sun as much. I think they'll definitely be a break after sunset but it could ramp up again early in the morning as the top levels inhale enough warm air to settle down, then cool off, stimulating more lower level convection (rising up into the colled air) and storms.

The thing that sucks with these kinds of storms is they're also is helped by daytime heating, although not is violently say as thunderstorm complex with a dry line or something.

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Just now, troph said:

Watching remotely we have enough overflow valves to be ok. We can even open our hose bibs and drain that way too. Rain at our place is heavy but normal. I think we’ve had 4-5 inches total. We’ve gone from 23,000 gallons to 36,000 and counting. 

That’s so cool. I’ve said it a bunch of times, but your home fascinates me.

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From the NYTimes:

Scenes from Camp Mystic a day after the deadly floods.

A building missing one entire side wall, with debris in front of it.
Flood damage at Camp Mystic, near Hunt, Texas, on Saturday.

The gates to enter Camp Mystic, where hundreds of children had been rescued from ravaging floods, were open Saturday afternoon, but reaching the area was a major challenge. The roads were badly damaged, with tree limbs and overturned vehicles everywhere.

A half-mile, downhill road to Camp Mystic, a Christian summer camp for girls along the Guadalupe River in Kerr County, Texas, led to a wooden sign on a tree that shows two happy girls jumping into the water. Officials said about 750 campers were there this week, and some two dozen girls remained unaccounted for.

Behind the sign, there were remnants of a happy summer. Brick picnic tables and chairs sat empty in a desolate park. Canoes were flipped upside down next to a placid lake. A road leading to cabins and other buildings looked impassable.

Here are scenes from Camp Mystic on Saturday:

An aerial view of Camp Mystic, near a muddy river.
The gates to the camp were open on Saturday afternoon, but reaching it was a major challenge.

Pieces of wood and metal and a canoe wrapped around a tree, with more debris around trees in the background.
The roads to the camp were badly damaged, with tree limbs and overturned vehicles everywhere.

A person in a tan uniform walking across a stretch of wet dirt and sand.
Rescue crews searching the grounds for missing people near Camp Mystic.

A large gray mailbox stenciled “CAMP MYSTIC” sits upside down among tree branches knotted on the ground.
A camp mailbox was among the debris.

Fallen trees trail into brown floodwaters in the foreground, with more debris and a camp building in the background.
Some two dozen campers remained unaccounted for on Saturday.

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Part of Berry Creek in Georgetown runs through the back part of my lot, but I am 30-35 feet up a steep hill/cliff. I went out and looked at the creek at about 9:30 this morning and it was dry, as it usually is. By 11 am it was flowing at about 60 yards wide at a not quite record flow, but pretty close.

 

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14 minutes ago, bonnieblue said:

Just found out our very good friends lost their toddler while their river house was ripped apart in Kerrville. Mom saved the older child. Absolutely devastating. 

This is so fucking terrible. 

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Stop Nicole. Just fucking stop. This is not Lifetime channel. we have members who are grieving. 

 

True crime and disasters, the flames to the moth that is Nicole.

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8 minutes ago, bolverk said:

NYTimes Update: Here’s what we know about some of the Texas flood victims.

An aerial view of a muddy road and an area covered with debris left by a flood.
The flooded Guadalupe River near Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, on Saturday.

The flash flooding on the Guadalupe River in Central Texas has killed at least 35 people, including 14 children. Some two dozen girls from Camp Mystic, an all-girls’ Christian summer camp, are still missing.

Rescuers have been searching the river Saturday, and the death toll is expected to rise. Here’s what we know about those who were killed.

Sarah Marsh
Sarah Marsh, smiling and looking straight ahead.

Sarah Marsh, an 8-year-old student at Cherokee Bend Elementary in Mountain Brook, Ala., was one of the campers at Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas.

In a statement posted online, Stewart Welch, the mayor of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, confirmed that Sarah was among those who died in the flood and said the city was heartbroken.

“This is an unimaginable loss for her family, her school and our entire community,” he wrote. “Sarah’s passing is a sorrow shared by all of us, and our hearts are with those who knew her and loved her.”

In a text message on Saturday, Sarah’s grandmother, Debbie Ford Marsh, said that Sarah’s parents were not able to talk and declined to comment on behalf of the family.

Earlier, on Facebook, she posted: “We will always feel blessed to have had this beautiful spunky ray of light in our lives. She will live on in our hearts forever!”

Janie Hunt
Janie Hunt, smiling and looking straight ahead.

Janie Hunt, 9, of Dallas, died in the flash flooding, her grandmother Margaret Hunt said in an interview.

Janie was also attending Camp Mystic. It was her first time there as a camper, and she attended along with six of her cousins, who were safe, Ms. Hunt said.

Ms. Hunt said she was in Vermont when she got a call from her daughter, Anne Lindsay Hunt, telling her about the flooding. Janie’s parents drove to Ingram Elementary, the reunification center, where they were told to visit a funeral home and identify their daughter. Janie is the eldest of three children.

Bobby and Amanda Martin
Bobby Martin, 46, and his wife, Amanda Martin, 44, were among those killed, Mr. Martin’s father, John Keith Martin, told The New York Times.

The couple, from Odessa, Texas, were reportedly camping by the Guadalupe River when their R.V. was swept away by the rising floodwaters. The elder Mr. Martin said one his grandchildren and that grandchild’s girlfriend were with the couple and were still missing.

“He was an adventurous man, adventurous and outgoing. He had many good friends, because he was a good friend,” John Keith Martin said of his son. “He’s just incredible.”

Jane Ragsdale
Jane Ragsdale, wearing glasses, looking straight ahead and smiling.

Jane Ragsdale, the director and co-owner of the Heart O’ the Hills summer camp in Kerr County, is among those confirmed dead in the flooding, according to a statement posted to the camp’s website. No campers were residing at the site when the floods hit.

“We at the camp are stunned and deeply saddened by Jane’s death,” the statement said. “She embodied the spirit of Heart O’ the Hills and was exactly the type of strong, joyful woman that the camp aimed to develop with the girls entrusted to us each summer.”

Ms. Ragsdale, who became the camp director in 1988, started as a camper and later became a counselor.

 

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Heard last night about one through her cousin, who’s very good friends with my oldest. I know her parents and entire family. I cannot imagine what they’re going through. This is a nightmare. 

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We are talking about CR because we have a bunch of bitch ass snowflakes that are offended by reality. The fact they cant see the reality is the problem. Also cry less pussies. 
Kids died and we have a bunch of grandstanding politicians ignoring their own malfeasance and having the audacity to claim some sort of political win all while making it all about them. They throat the very person that is actively gutting the very thing that could potentially prevent this. What a backwards world we live in that we claim CR on that. Fuck you and I hope you reap the oats you sow you fucking animals.

Quit hogging all the vitriol; leave me some please.
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5 minutes ago, King George said:

Heard last night about one through her cousin, who’s very good friends with my oldest. I know her parents and entire family. I cannot imagine what they’re going through. This is a nightmare. 

People here are supposed to believe anything you post now? 

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

People here are supposed to believe anything you post now? 

Because I posted a pic of a art of Mystic that didn’t flood, amongst everything else I posted yesterday that was spot on?  I guess not man.  Jesus. 

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