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1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

I like what I see out of Baxter. What are the complaints about him, exactly?

He's coming off a serious knee injury, which he wasn't even expected to be getting as many carries as he has been. If he was in situation where he was carrying the ball 20 to 25 times a game I think we'd be pleased with the result. I didn't think of Jamaal Charles or Jonathon Brooks as being as special as they ended up being, but they showed early promise.

Bijan was Bijan from the moment he stepped on campus, so I got nothing there. I wish he had played on better teams.

I think Baxter is fine generally as is Wisner for getting 4/5 yards.  But what we're missing (at both WR and RB) is an elite speed guy that can make one guy miss and go 80 (Blue last year and Keilan Robinson before).  Wingo is supposed to be that guy at WR but we haven't seen it yet.  Not sure if one of our FR WR's are supposed to have that skill set as didn't follow recruiting that closely, but based on highlights, sure wish we could have landed Moore as he looks legit at Oregon.

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1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

I like what I see out of Baxter. What are the complaints about him, exactly?

He's coming off a serious knee injury, which he wasn't even expected to be getting as many carries as he has been. If he was in situation where he was carrying the ball 20 to 25 times a game I think we'd be pleased with the result. I didn't think of Jamaal Charles or Jonathon Brooks as being as special as they ended up being, but they showed early promise.

Bijan was Bijan from the moment he stepped on campus, so I got nothing there. I wish he had played on better teams.

It seems people are concerned about the lack of explosiveness from the RB position, which includes Baxter. We don’t have a burner back there, but I don’t necessarily think we need one for the offense to be successful. They need to average 4+ yards a carry and I think they’ve done that.

I thought it was clear Jamaal would be special in high school, oddly enough early on I didn’t think he’d be as good as his older brother but he put in the work, after watching Brooks in his state championship game I figured he would be too.

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11 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I think Baxter is fine generally as is Wisner for getting 4/5 yards.  But what we're missing (at both WR and RB) is an elite speed guy that can make one guy miss and go 80 (Blue last year and Keilan Robinson before).  Wingo is supposed to be that guy at WR but we haven't seen it yet.  Not sure if one of our FR WR's are supposed to have that skill set as didn't follow recruiting that closely, but based on highlights, sure wish we could have landed Moore as he looks legit at Oregon.

So you’re just going to disrespect Livingstone like that?

 

lockett looked really fast in his reps. Wingo is fast but he doesn’t look like he plays fast. 

2 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

It seems people are concerned about the lack of explosiveness from the RB position, which includes Baxter. We don’t have a burner back there, but I don’t necessarily think we need one for the offense to be successful. They need to average 4+ yards a carry and I think they’ve done that.

I thought it was clear Jamaal would be special in high school, oddly enough early on I didn’t think he’d be as good as his older brother but he put in the work, after watching Brooks in his state championship game I figured he would be too.

They averaged 4.8 vs SJSU but the run game looked like shit. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Good news is almost every other top team in the country looks that way too. OSU's offense wasnt anything great. Georgia looks pedestrian. Alabama looked like trash. Oregon looks great but haven't played anyone. 

Miami looks pretty damn good on offense.  Speed all over the place and a QB who routinely makes NFL throws on target.  Beck looks like a different guy this year.

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40 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I think Baxter is fine generally as is Wisner for getting 4/5 yards.  But what we're missing (at both WR and RB) is an elite speed guy that can make one guy miss and go 80 (Blue last year and Keilan Robinson before).  Wingo is supposed to be that guy at WR but we haven't seen it yet.  Not sure if one of our FR WR's are supposed to have that skill set as didn't follow recruiting that closely, but based on highlights, sure wish we could have landed Moore as he looks legit at Oregon.

 

30 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

It seems people are concerned about the lack of explosiveness from the RB position, which includes Baxter. We don’t have a burner back there, but I don’t necessarily think we need one for the offense to be successful. They need to average 4+ yards a carry and I think they’ve done that.

I thought it was clear Jamaal would be special in high school, oddly enough early on I didn’t think he’d be as good as his older brother but he put in the work, after watching Brooks in his state championship game I figured he would be too.

Are we saying Brooks was a burner? Benson wasn't exactly a burner. I want someone who can consistently get us ahead of the chains and make first downs. That's an NFL quality running back as far as I'm concerned. '

Blue wasn't utilized enough for me to truly miss him. Same with Keilan Robinson. There are a lot of players I wish were on this roster. Blue and Robinson don't exactly leap to the forefront. No offense to those guys. Heck, Niblett is the burner you guys seem to be yearning for. The problem is I haven't seen him be able to use his speed productively since he got here. He is pretty quick about waving his teammates away from punts. I'll give him that. 

I'm being a little purposefully obtuse here. As fans we want to see players who can take it to the house anywhere on the field, and we feel like we're lacking that, with the apparent exception of Livingstone. I do believe Wingo is that type of player. I feel like Baxter can pick up big chunks if the opportunity is there. Heck, I believe Manning can produce long runs. IMO we have a quarterback who needs the game to slow down a little bit, and he needs to experience a little more consistent success. An easy prescription but a much harder thing to apply. With a quarterback who second guesses himself, is late seeing receivers break open, and then isn't consistent with what the ball is going to do when it leaves his hands, the fastest receivers in the world aren't going to matter. 

As far as running back, I don't have the same concerns about a big play threat that others do. I want someone who can consistently pick up 4+ yards, make positive yardage even when the blocking breaks down, and when everything breaks right can get 10 to 20 yards if not more. That's what I feel like we had in Brooks. I feel like Baxter can give us the same kind of element. That's a national championship caliber running attack, IMO. I guess I'm just higher on Baxter and what I'm seeing than other people are. 

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The Inside Texas postgame show yesterday got into an interesting discussion toward the end. Basically talked about the recent defensive trend of hybridization, i.e. players who are multiple, can drop in and out of coverage, etc, and how it presents problems for Sark's offense. They talked about our lack of a quick game, which put into words what I sense when I watch other passing offenses. Quick hitters, inbreaking routes, taking what the defense gives, etc. Some offenses seem to get into 2nd/3rd and 5 or less with relative ease, while we make it look so fucking hard and laborious.

I think the IT show mentioned our avg yards to go on 3rd down yesterday was like 9.75 yards. We were 1/9 on 3rd down with Arch in the game. San Jose State had a better 3rd down conversion percentage than us. Like WTF? That cannot be explained away with wellackshually bullshit. That is horrendously awful and needs to change fast if this team wants to compete for a championship.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Skipper said:

I think Baxter is fine generally as is Wisner for getting 4/5 yards.  But what we're missing (at both WR and RB) is an elite speed guy that can make one guy miss and go 80 (Blue last year and Keilan Robinson before).  Wingo is supposed to be that guy at WR but we haven't seen it yet.  Not sure if one of our FR WR's are supposed to have that skill set as didn't follow recruiting that closely, but based on highlights, sure wish we could have landed Moore as he looks legit at Oregon.

Doing this and going 83 is apparently somehow not as good?

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1 hour ago, Skipper said:

I think Baxter is fine generally as is Wisner for getting 4/5 yards.  But what we're missing (at both WR and RB) is an elite speed guy that can make one guy miss and go 80 (Blue last year and Keilan Robinson before).  Wingo is supposed to be that guy at WR but we haven't seen it yet.  Not sure if one of our FR WR's are supposed to have that skill set as didn't follow recruiting that closely, but based on highlights, sure wish we could have landed Moore as he looks legit at Oregon.

Niblett - 10.58

Wingo - 10.6

Moore - 10.9

Livingstone is as fast as McCutcheon, Ffrench and Lockett according to Dr. Google.

We just don’t have the experience we have had the past 2 years.

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24 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

I think the IT show mentioned our avg yards to go on 3rd down yesterday was like 9.75 yards. We were 1/9 on 3rd down with Arch in the game.

A lot of that is penalties. Which doesn't excuse it but says less about our play calling and skill-position talent. 

That's also one of those stats that can be not super significant sometimes if you're scoring a lot on early downs or converting on 4th a bunch. 

40 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Blue wasn't utilized enough for me to truly miss him.

Probably because he couldn't go 4 touches without putting the ball on the carpet.

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28 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

They talked about our lack of a quick game, which put into words what I sense when I watch other passing offenses. Quick hitters, inbreaking routes, taking what the defense gives, etc. Some offenses seem to get into 2nd/3rd and 5 or less with relative ease, while we make it look so fucking hard and laborious.

I noticed that all of last year (Moo State game highlighted the problem) and in Week 1, where teams like LSU and FSU could move the ball within seconds of the snap, RBs would hit the hole aggressively, and plays didn't slowly develop, but were executed quickly.

My first excuse was that Sark calls a NFL-style offense so it doesn't need to look so flashy.  Now I realize he's making things harder on the offense than necessary and they can't execute simple stuff, like blocking assignments on a bubble screen.  

This has to be a Sark symptom.  Why does every play look painfully slow and a roll of the dice to develop?

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18 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Niblett - 10.58

Wingo - 10.6

Moore - 10.9

Livingstone is as fast as McCutcheon, Ffrench and Lockett according to Dr. Google.

We just don’t have the experience we have had the past 2 years.

They can be track fast but on the football field from what I've seen they don't play fast. Will Johnson ran Wingo down last year in Michigan. Also Wingo runs shitty routes

Wingo and Moore aren't young, they've played a ton of snaps, you can't use youth as an excuse for them.

Livingston actually looks like he plays fast. Lockett in his limited reps looked like he plays fast as well.

Nibblett should straight up not be getting reps at receiver over any of the young players.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Niblett - 10.58

Wingo - 10.6

Moore - 10.9

Livingstone is as fast as McCutcheon, Ffrench and Lockett according to Dr. Google.

We just don’t have the experience we have had the past 2 years.

I think the bottom line is that we had expectations we'd be a dominant juggernaut out of the gate. Or at least struggle less than we are. Because we are struggling, people are giving up on the idea that we might become one. And maybe they're right. I don't know. 

One thing I believe every fan can get behind is that we have to improve from where we are right now. I see people focus on the performance of the wide receivers, and I'm just not seeing the same thing. The guy taking the snaps from center has to get right for them to be able to perform up to their potential. 

At the same time, I've been watching a lot of college football these past two weeks, and I see a lot of teams having issues. I just don't feel the same kind of doom and gloom I see a lot of people expressing. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So you’re just going to disrespect Livingstone like that?

No shit, isn't that exactly what Livingstone did on Saturday? He made a cut, made the defender fall down and housed it running away from a guy that had the angle.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

Surly sure loves to shit on Jaydon Blue… Despite him scoring like ~5 TDs in the playoffs last year for us lol.

He could end up being Priest Holmes in the NFL. Holmes was a TD machine even with Shon Mitchell and Ricky Williams getting the bulk of the carries. But he simply wasn't used that much. It's hard to miss Blue when he played so little. I don't mean to shit on him. But he was mostly a very fast running back watching from the sidelines. And when he was out there he would regularly drop passes and fumble the ball. Not every time, but often enough for me to feel like he was going to do it again the next time he got the ball. 

Posted
49 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

San Jose State had a better 3rd down conversion percentage than us.

Yeah they totally dominated that stat. 4/15 compared to 2/12.

C’mon man.

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1 hour ago, CurlyDumps said:

The Inside Texas postgame show yesterday got into an interesting discussion toward the end. Basically talked about the recent defensive trend of hybridization, i.e. players who are multiple, can drop in and out of coverage, etc, and how it presents problems for Sark's offense. They talked about our lack of a quick game, which put into words what I sense when I watch other passing offenses. Quick hitters, inbreaking routes, taking what the defense gives, etc. Some offenses seem to get into 2nd/3rd and 5 or less with relative ease, while we make it look so fucking hard and laborious.

I think the IT show mentioned our avg yards to go on 3rd down yesterday was like 9.75 yards. We were 1/9 on 3rd down with Arch in the game. San Jose State had a better 3rd down conversion percentage than us. Like WTF? That cannot be explained away with wellackshually bullshit. That is horrendously awful and needs to change fast if this team wants to compete for a championship.

I don't understand Sakrisian's desire to make every fucking passing concept so fucking complicated or a shitty screen that fools no one. He also needs to retire the fake one way and throw it back to the RB blindly, as other teams have scouted the shit out of that play. I do think that Jesse had some good thoughts on Manning, as he left a lot on the field on Saturday. The dude has had 4 starts and is 3-1 in those games with 11 TDs and 4 INTs, while averaging 285 yards off offense. Ewers after his 1st 4 starts was at 9-2 and 204 yards of offense, also 3-1.

Though it was interesting to see OU try our double reverse flea-flicker to the TE that we scored easily on in the Big 12 CG, so other teams including the NFL are stealing his stuff. It's an interesting point about the hybrid defenders, because I was relieved to finally see a RPO in the RZ that ended up as a slant to Livingstone for an easy TD.

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10 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

He could end up being Priest Holmes in the NFL. Holmes was a TD machine even with Shon Mitchell and Ricky Williams getting the bulk of the carries. But he simply wasn't used that much. It's hard to miss Blue when he played so little. I don't mean to shit on him. But he was mostly a very fast running back watching from the sidelines. And when he was out there he would regularly drop passes and fumble the ball. Not every time, but often enough for me to feel like he was going to do it again the next time he got the ball. 

To be fair, Holmes was going to be the featured back in 1995, but tore up his knee during the off-season. When he came back both Mitchell and Ricky had established themselves with over 2300 total combined yards and 18 TDs. Holmes also worked his ass off to make in the NFL, he had a work ethic and maturity Blue has never shown.

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13 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

He could end up being Priest Holmes in the NFL. Holmes was a TD machine even with Shon Mitchell and Ricky Williams getting the bulk of the carries. But he simply wasn't used that much. It's hard to miss Blue when he played so little. I don't mean to shit on him. But he was mostly a very fast running back watching from the sidelines. And when he was out there he would regularly drop passes and fumble the ball. Not every time, but often enough for me to feel like he was going to do it again the next time he got the ball. 

Blue caught a ton of important passes, plus I would not compare drops with fumbles though which was the real reason he was benched a lot.

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20 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

He could end up being Priest Holmes in the NFL. Holmes was a TD machine even with Shon Mitchell and Ricky Williams getting the bulk of the carries. But he simply wasn't used that much. It's hard to miss Blue when he played so little. I don't mean to shit on him. But he was mostly a very fast running back watching from the sidelines. And when he was out there he would regularly drop passes and fumble the ball. Not every time, but often enough for me to feel like he was going to do it again the next time he got the ball. 

If he could be half what priest was in the NFL he will have a decent career.

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29 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

He could end up being Priest Holmes in the NFL. Holmes was a TD machine even with Shon Mitchell and Ricky Williams getting the bulk of the carries. But he simply wasn't used that much. It's hard to miss Blue when he played so little. I don't mean to shit on him. But he was mostly a very fast running back watching from the sidelines. And when he was out there he would regularly drop passes and fumble the ball. Not every time, but often enough for me to feel like he was going to do it again the next time he got the ball. 

Blue accounted for 1000+ yards from scrimmage and 14 TD’s.  That is a lot of lost production.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, linux said:

Blue caught a ton of important passes, plus I would not compare drops with fumbles though which was the real reason he was benched a lot.

No, I'd agree. One is a way bigger deal than the other. It was a me thing. I kept getting frustrated with his dropped passes. That team didn't drop that many passes, and too often, it felt like Blue was the culprit.

Fondren and Main reminded me that Blue had 1000 yards from scrimmage last year, along with the 14 TDs. In my mind it wasn't that much. I was wrong. 

Posted
1 hour ago, CurlyDumps said:

The Inside Texas postgame show yesterday got into an interesting discussion toward the end. Basically talked about the recent defensive trend of hybridization, i.e. players who are multiple, can drop in and out of coverage, etc, and how it presents problems for Sark's offense. They talked about our lack of a quick game, which put into words what I sense when I watch other passing offenses. Quick hitters, inbreaking routes, taking what the defense gives, etc. Some offenses seem to get into 2nd/3rd and 5 or less with relative ease, while we make it look so fucking hard and laborious.

I think the IT show mentioned our avg yards to go on 3rd down yesterday was like 9.75 yards. We were 1/9 on 3rd down with Arch in the game. San Jose State had a better 3rd down conversion percentage than us. Like WTF? That cannot be explained away with wellackshually bullshit. That is horrendously awful and needs to change fast if this team wants to compete for a championship.

It's Sark's philosophy.  He doesn't like dink and dunk because it requires higher level of execution and consistency.  His plan for college has always been to recruit the freakiest and fastest skill players to hit them in stride for super explosive plays.  When it is fully optimized, you get the Mac Jones Bama.  When you dont have 3 1st rounders with a killer run game, you get what we have right now.

Posted
7 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

Arch Manning hurt? Breaking wince-gate wide open - 247

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Arch Manning hurt? Breaking wince-gate wide open

During Texas' 38-7 win over San Jose State on Saturday, the ABC broadcast showed Longhorns quarterback Arch Manning grimacing while throwing an incomplete pass, leading online speculation that the UT signal caller is dealing with an injury. We did some digging and that doesn't appear to be the case.

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AUSTIN, Texas — Arch Manning passed for 295 yards and 4 touchdowns, adding in a 20-yard score on the ground, in a 38-7 win over San Jose State on Saturday in Texas' home-opener. The box score reflects a strong outing for the third-year Longhorn, but the conversation coming out of the game has centered around an incomplete pass Manning threw at Ryan Wingo's feet in the first half, one that appeared to suggest Manning may be dealing with an injury to his throwing arm due to a noticeable wince in his face.

Both Steve Sarkisian and Manning were asked about the grimace after the game.

"I don't know," Sarkisian responded. "News to me."

Manning followed up by downplaying a suspected injury.

"No, no," Manning replied. "I got to make that throw. He was open. Ran a good dig route. So got to make that throw."

For reference, here's the throw: 

Concerned fans, social media sleuths and even some college football personalities are not convinced.

Sure it looks like he's laboring on the pass, but is it possible that's simply the face he makes when throwing and/or due to displeasure that he knew it was off-target leaving his hand?

One source close to the situation told Horns247: "He's not injured. I think you can look at every quarterback and they're probably wincing and looking as if they're trying very hard."

Need proof? 

Here are a few photos prior to this season of Manning throwing a football: 

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Arch Manning throws a pass against UL-Monroe in September of 2024. (Photo: USA TODAY Sports)

13271232.jpg?fit=bounds&crop=620:320,offset-y0.50&width=620&height=320 Arch Manning throws a pass against UL-Monroe in September of 2024. (Photo: USA TODAY Sports)

13271235.jpg?fit=bounds&crop=620:320,offset-y0.50&width=620&height=320 Arch Manning throws a pass in high school. (Photo: USA TODAY Sports)

13271238.jpg?fit=bounds&crop=620:320,offset-y0.50&width=620&height=320 Arch Manning throws a pass in high school. (Photo: USA TODAY Sports)

There's still plenty to dissect about Manning's play two games into the season. Sarkisian noted he wants Manning to play his (Manning's) style of game, something Sarkisian believes we saw more of on Saturday. 

"He extended plays, used his legs, scrambles for a touchdown. That's the style of player that he is," Sarkisian said after the game on Saturday. "And he's very gifted, because he can make all the throws from the pocket. He can make those out of the pocket, but yet he's big and physical enough that he can hurt you with his legs. And so him playing his game and not trying to play it somebody else's style of game, I think is important for him, but it's also important for the guys around him to know how their quarterbacks going to play."

So while Texas continues to clean up its play with two games and a bye-week to go until the team travels to Gainesville to face Florida, fans can put to rest the notion that Manning is dealing with an injury. 

Now, everybody, calm your fucking tits, alright?

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Posted
1 hour ago, westexhorn said:

It's Sark's philosophy.  He doesn't like dink and dunk because it requires higher level of execution and consistency.  His plan for college has always been to recruit the freakiest and fastest skill players to hit them in stride for super explosive plays.  When it is fully optimized, you get the Mac Jones Bama.  When you dont have 3 1st rounders with a killer run game, you get what we have right now.

Sometimes you got to work with the hand you're dealt. 

Could be personal , could be injuries , could be the defense defending everything else. 

Being able to dink and dunk down the field should be a table stakes drill any offense can perform 

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3 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

No, I'd agree. One is a way bigger deal than the other. It was a me thing. I kept getting frustrated with his dropped passes. That team didn't drop that many passes, and too often, it felt like Blue was the culprit.

Fondren and Main reminded me that Blue had 1000 yards from scrimmage last year, along with the 14 TDs. In my mind it wasn't that much. I was wrong. 

1000 +14 TD vs his fumbles is a good debate to have and I still think Gibson can do as well as he did learning to protect the ball throughout the season, still my main argument is that he was actually kinda elite at catching passes (timestamped)

 

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4 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

He could end up being Priest Holmes in the NFL. 

were you smoking crack earlier tonight or what?  bad acid trip?

we all love jaydon blue but jfc man. 

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11 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

Niblett - 10.58

Wingo - 10.6

Moore - 10.9

Livingstone is as fast as McCutcheon, Ffrench and Lockett according to Dr. Google.

We just don’t have the experience we have had the past 2 years.

We just have to see it on the field. As much as people criticized Blue, everyone knew he was capable scoring any time he touched the ball. Not quite the same level as Worthy, but he had game breaking speed. Livingstone is playmaker, but as a downfield contested ball guy. Offense is kind of missing that guy that can take a 5-yard play, make someone miss, and break off a 50+ yd TD. Right now, I am not seeing guys make people miss on the 2nd/3rd level and getting those easy explosives. We all thought Wingo was going to be that type of a player, but perimeter blocking and Arch connection has that TBD. Potential is there for that game breaker to emerge, but potential means you havent done it yet (consistently). Though I can see the big play ability in this offense. Arch is clearly a playmaker and his Livingstone connection is adding explosives. That represents the ceiling of this offense, which is high. The scary part is the efficiency represents the floor. This offense has shown 0 efficiency through 2 games. 

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Posted
11 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

They can be track fast but on the football field from what I've seen they don't play fast. Will Johnson ran Wingo down last year in Michigan. Also Wingo runs shitty routes

I agree with your overall point, but I dunno that you could have picked a worse example. The end arounds are about the only time that Wingo shows there is some speed somewhere in his skill set. He was pulling away from WIll Johnson, who had an angle on him and barely clipped his ankles.

Posted
15 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I like my coffee hot and strong…like I like my football teams hot and strong…with a spoon in them. 

Are you the spoon or the coffee?

Posted
10 hours ago, westexhorn said:

It's Sark's philosophy.  He doesn't like dink and dunk because it requires higher level of execution and consistency.  His plan for college has always been to recruit the freakiest and fastest skill players to hit them in stride for super explosive plays.  When it is fully optimized, you get the Mac Jones Bama.  When you dont have 3 1st rounders with a killer run game, you get what we have right now.

In fairness, you could say that about literally every offensive system. 

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8 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Sometimes you got to work with the hand you're dealt. 

Could be personal , could be injuries , could be the defense defending everything else. 

Being able to dink and dunk down the field should be a table stakes drill any offense can perform 

Sark calls plays for the team he wants, not the team he has. It’s one of his biggest drawbacks as a coach and has lost us at least one game every year hes been here, save for maybe 2023. 

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13 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Sark calls plays for the team he wants, not the team he has. It’s one of his biggest drawbacks as a coach and has lost us at least one game every year hes been here, save for maybe 2023. 

That’s a good description. 

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Posted
13 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

We aren’t going to have the fastest combine receiver 3 years in a row. Woe is us. Our WRs are plenty fast for success they just need to catch the ball and/or not get them thrown behind/over/under them. There have been several plays where if Wingo is lead properly or he doesn’t drop it he is gone. 

On rewatch I think the passing game will be fine. Wingo and Arch will start to gel eventually. They have left a bunch of meat on the bone so far. Livingstone is winning 1 on 1’s and I bet Lockett starts to make a run this year.

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39 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Sark calls plays for the team he wants, not the team he has. It’s one of his biggest drawbacks as a coach and has lost us at least one game every year hes been here, save for maybe 2023. 

The entire 2024 season was Sarkisian changing his offense for the personnel he had on the team. We were a dink and dunk team that ran outside zone, because that was the skill talent we had. Ewers was not a deep shot thrower, and Baxter was out which took away our inside zone runner.

We know have a QB that can hit the long balls and Baxter brings the physciality of the inside zone that sets up the playaction. Does Sarkisian need to incorporate more in breaking routes, yes. Especially to get ahead of the chains. That is what those screen passes are for, but the blocking on the perimeter is abysmal right now.

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Posted
12 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

a shitty screen that fools no one.

That seems to be a Longhorn tradition. Doesn't matter who the coach is. 

Posted
13 hours ago, CurlyDumps said:

The Inside Texas postgame show yesterday got into an interesting discussion toward the end. Basically talked about the recent defensive trend of hybridization, i.e. players who are multiple, can drop in and out of coverage, etc, and how it presents problems for Sark's offense. They talked about our lack of a quick game, which put into words what I sense when I watch other passing offenses. Quick hitters, inbreaking routes, taking what the defense gives, etc. Some offenses seem to get into 2nd/3rd and 5 or less with relative ease, while we make it look so fucking hard and laborious.

I think the IT show mentioned our avg yards to go on 3rd down yesterday was like 9.75 yards. We were 1/9 on 3rd down with Arch in the game. San Jose State had a better 3rd down conversion percentage than us. Like WTF? That cannot be explained away with wellackshually bullshit. That is horrendously awful and needs to change fast if this team wants to compete for a championship.

Texas was 0-6 with 3rd and 9+.. That is a 1st and 2nd down issue. Not saying 3rd down is not a problem, but I would guess the larger issue is 1st down success rate. Seems like a lot of drives start out with an incomplete on 1st and an ineffective run on 2nd down or a penalty on 1st down. I cannot find the stats, but I would be the biggest issue with this offense is 1st down. Feels like they are consistently behind the chains. 

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We have a qb who’s still finding his comfort zone and a WR corps where the veterans are playing inefficiently and the fresher faces are out performing them. 
Wingo isn’t mentally ready for an alpha dog role, Moore doesn’t seem to be in sync with Arch.

Arch also doesn’t like taking what the defense gives him. He needs to get the ball to his backs quicker instead of looking to force the ball downfield. He really loves throwing deep balls, but lacks the anticipation for it right now.

This isn’t a playoff team unless the defense becomes much stingier. Or Arch finds a way to become more efficient with his current ability. 

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12 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

I think the bottom line is that we had expectations we'd be a dominant juggernaut out of the gate. Or at least struggle less than we are. Because we are struggling, people are giving up on the idea that we might become one. And maybe they're right. I don't know. 

One thing I believe every fan can get behind is that we have to improve from where we are right now. I see people focus on the performance of the wide receivers, and I'm just not seeing the same thing. The guy taking the snaps from center has to get right for them to be able to perform up to their potential. 

At the same time, I've been watching a lot of college football these past two weeks, and I see a lot of teams having issues. I just don't feel the same kind of doom and gloom I see a lot of people expressing. 

I increasingly believe that we were forecast as a juggernaut a year early because of our QB's last name. Sportswriters are generally pretty dumb. Somehow, they convinced themselves and each other that all the experience of prior Mannings was already loaded into Arch. Nope. He actually has to acquire his own experience. 

I expected more out of him right out of the gate. That means idiots who write sports persuaded me to join them in the idiot club. Shame on me.

It is a lot to expect a first year QB to lead a team to a championship. Mistakes kill those aspirations. It's absurd to expect Manning to play like a veteran who has seen the results of a lot of bad decisions and knows to avoid them.

He won't lead us to a championship this year. It will be the defense leading the way if we are to have a chance, IMHO. If the defense keeps us in the playoff picture, Manning may have matured enough by the end of the season to assert himself as a seasoned player.

I'm taking it game by game from here with no expectations. 

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The differences between what Arch does well and what Ewers did well are pretty hilarious. Like if we could combine them, we would have, well, I guess we'd have something between Joe Burrow and Vince Young.

I'm not sure how Manning can be so uncomfortable with short, easy throws, but he needs to get comfortable with them. We can't be in 3rd and 10 half of the time.

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4 minutes ago, Atticus said:

We have a qb who’s still finding his comfort zone and a WR corps where the veterans are playing inefficiently and the fresher faces are out performing them. 
Wingo isn’t mentally ready for an alpha dog role, Moore doesn’t seem to be in sync with Arch.

Arch also doesn’t like taking what the defense gives him. He needs to get the ball to his backs quicker instead of looking to force the ball downfield. He really loves throwing deep balls, but lacks the anticipation for it right now.

This isn’t a playoff team unless the defense becomes much stingier. Or Arch finds a way to become more efficient with his current ability. 

Arch is hitting an excellent 50% on his deep balls. Hard to find issues with that. 

The issue is finding something that is efficient and easily replicated.

Texas is much more vertical in the passing this year, which will tend to be more boom or bust

The OL has some real holes currently. 

Stroh: 47.6 PFF grade vs SJSU and 44.9 vs OSU

baker: 59.1 vs SJSU, 41.0 vs OSU

That is going to make doing anything consistently an issue

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12 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

I don't understand Sakrisian's desire to make every fucking passing concept so fucking complicated or a shitty screen that fools no one. He also needs to retire the fake one way and throw it back to the RB blindly, as other teams have scouted the shit out of that play. I do think that Jesse had some good thoughts on Manning, as he left a lot on the field on Saturday. The dude has had 4 starts and is 3-1 in those games with 11 TDs and 4 INTs, while averaging 285 yards off offense. Ewers after his 1st 4 starts was at 9-2 and 204 yards of offense, also 3-1.

Though it was interesting to see OU try our double reverse flea-flicker to the TE that we scored easily on in the Big 12 CG, so other teams including the NFL are stealing his stuff. It's an interesting point about the hybrid defenders, because I was relieved to finally see a RPO in the RZ that ended up as a slant to Livingstone for an easy TD.

33 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Texas was 0-6 with 3rd and 9+.. That is a 1st and 2nd down issue. Not saying 3rd down is not a problem, but I would guess the larger issue is 1st down success rate. Seems like a lot of drives start out with an incomplete on 1st and an ineffective run on 2nd down or a penalty on 1st down. I cannot find the stats, but I would be the biggest issue with this offense is 1st down. Feels like they are consistently behind the chains. 

Any pass play that loses 5 yard needs to be shit canned and never to be seen again. 

Nothing kills a drive like throwing a pass 20 yards to loose 5 yards on 1st down.

Most of Sarks scripted plays to start the game are dog shit.

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