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It’s also why you are so loud all caps blustering. You think no one sees it brisket. Buts it’s all pretty obvious. 

Oh, the projection. Mr “burn it all down” over the course of a decade plus disclaims any responsibility for…it all burning down. Fantastic.
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It is shocking that reasonably intelligent people actually think one side is more virtuous than the other.  


When one side is pure evil and destructive, the other side can still be kind of bad and easily be considered more virtuous.

The shocking thing is when people cannot realize or admit how evil that one side is. Perhaps you know it deep down and won’t admit it out loud, or your conscious mind suppresses what your subconscious mind senses is true. Maybe that’s your defense mechanism that allows you to believe the lies you are told because somehow you believe that party benefits you personally even if it comes at an enormous cost to those around you. As long as you got yours, or foolishly believe you are getting yours. Or perhaps you are just rotten inside or easily manipulated by misinformation.

I wouldn’t go so far as to suggest anything about reasonably intelligent people on both sides. Any “intelligent” person who supports the current regime is a selfish racist asshole who is willing to turn a blind eye to things like sexual assault, pedophilia, abuse of government power, all while actively rejecting things like science, medicine, education, arts, history, and basic human decency.
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23 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Oh, the projection. Mr “burn it all down” over the course of a decade plus disclaims any responsibility for…it all burning down. Fantastic.

My decades as a Republican are far less than yours. Like orders of magnitude. 

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My decades as a Republican are far less than yours. Like orders of magnitude. 

Your recent turn to somehow supporting everything this regime does more than tips the scale. At least I never lied about what I was. “Libertarian.” Somehow being relentlessly suppine for an authoritarian. That lie will never get old.
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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This is not about controlling our borders.  It never, ever has been.  It is about nativist xenophobia as a tool of political manipulation.  Tale as old as time.  Fuck, you can read the exact same shit in newspapers from 140 years ago, just plug in "dirty mexicans" for "filthy irish" and such.  The Chinese Exclusion Act wasn't about "controlling our borders" - it was about nativist racist bullshit. 

I've decided that there are a shitload of people in this country that know virtually nothing about world history or even US history.

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1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

I've decided that there are a shitload of people in this country that know virtually nothing about world history or even US history.

the

dumbest

fucking 

people 

alive 

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Here's a handy guide to the loss of funding for public TV and radio stations in Texas. The drop-down menu shows other states, plus there's a random station generator thing at the bottom showing the most drastic cuts. It looks like stations in the bigger markets are losing about 5-10%, while the smaller ones are losing up to a third or more.

The public TV stations look to be the worst affected. For example, the PBS station in Midland has a 46% loss in funding.

https://adoptastation.org/texas

 

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35 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

The "immigration policy" of black bagging people and denying them their habeas corpus and due process rights and shipping them off to some foreign prison to be beaten and starved is just the "natural pendulum swing" of a flawed political system. Inevitable really. 

Jesus fucking Christ.

I hate the Nazi comparisons because they're played out and lazy...but damn if some of you all would have made for some excellent 1930s German citizens. 

"Oh, they're only taking the bad ones. Trust them."

Honestly, same, even though it might sound funny coming from me because of my posting in the Israel thread(s) but I hate having to make that comparison because it makes people's eyes roll into the backs of their heads.

But sometimes the parallels are just so goddamn obvious you're just like...

Ariana Grande GIF by NETFLIX

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For the fake fiscal responsible magats, I guess this is how we paying for Trump's $100M+ price tag for playing golf all the fucking time? I mean, we paid for his ass to visit his golf course in Scotland.

Just keep sucking that pedo dick, magats.

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18 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Our immigration system is broken. Has been for a long time. People that are here illegally should be sent home. At the same time the process is very stupid and needs to be changed. But until then follow the rules. Every country has rules wrt immigration. If you don’t follow them, you get sent out. This is like nation state 101. 

I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally,"


- Ronald Reagan in a 1984 presidential campaign debate. 
 

Link from evil biased npr

https://www.npr.org/2010/07/04/128303672/a-reagan-legacy-amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants

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1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

The "immigration policy" of black bagging people and denying them their habeas corpus and due process rights and shipping them off to some foreign prison to be beaten and starved is just the "natural pendulum swing" of a flawed political system. Inevitable really. 

Jesus fucking Christ.

I hate the Nazi comparisons because they're played out and lazy...but damn if some of you all would have made for some excellent 1930s German citizens. 

"Oh, they're only taking the bad ones. Trust them."

They're not even saying "its just the bad ones." They are explicitly acknowledging that US citizens and "good ones" have been swept up as well, but they are willing to let that happen as long as they keep seeing the US government tweet memes about shipping Brown people to torture sites.

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2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally,"


- Ronald Reagan in a 1984 presidential campaign debate. 
 

Link from evil biased npr

https://www.npr.org/2010/07/04/128303672/a-reagan-legacy-amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants

Do those other countries with "rules" send masked agents to immigration courts to disappear those who are following the rules?

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1 hour ago, Foosters said:

They're not even saying "its just the bad ones." They are explicitly acknowledging that US citizens and "good ones" have been swept up as well, but they are willing to let that happen as long as they keep seeing the US government tweet memes about shipping Brown people to torture sites.

Republicans to US citizens and "good ones" 

some of you may die but it 's a sacrifice i 'm willing to make ..

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Impressive how the local fascists derailed this thread into an immigration discussion instead of focusing on how they're taking active measures to more effectively control mass messaging by removing competing sources of factual information.

Everything is immigration or gays with them. 

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11 hours ago, bolverk said:

Here's a handy guide to the loss of funding for public TV and radio stations in Texas. The drop-down menu shows other states, plus there's a random station generator thing at the bottom showing the most drastic cuts. It looks like stations in the bigger markets are losing about 5-10%, while the smaller ones are losing up to a third or more.

The public TV stations look to be the worst affected. For example, the PBS station in Midland has a 46% loss in funding.

https://adoptastation.org/texas

 

Would be more useful to report absolute dollar amounts. Here is the permian basin balance sheet: https://www.basinpbs.org/bento-api/filer-file-download/393324/

Not sure what their viewer rankings are, but they need to step up their membership numbers to close the gap that will result. 

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10 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

@Brisketexan almost becomes a tragic character when you realize he was every single thing he hates now, and pretends not to be, for the vast majority of his adult life. His kids rejected him and his preacher wife who undoubtedly spouted church bullshit and that’s why they live abroad. The political climate he helped create and stoke the flames most of his adult life, and no amount of backtracking will help reconcile that.

I don't think Brisket keeps it a secret that he used to be like that, many of us were. God forbid someone changes their viewpoints over time instead of just staying a runny pile of shit like you.

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11 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

@Brisketexan almost becomes a tragic character when you realize he was every single thing he hates now, and pretends not to be, for the vast majority of his adult life. His kids rejected him and his preacher wife who undoubtedly spouted church bullshit and that’s why they live abroad. The political climate he helped create and stoke the flames most of his adult life, and no amount of backtracking will help reconcile that.

I know it comforts people like you to believe such things.  But nonetheless, our family is great.  Son is home for an extended visit, he was very eager and happy to get home to us.  And the night after he got back, he had a great dinner with his friends, which included two young refugees who he treats like his own brothers, all part of our family dynamic.  Daughter is very much looking forward to my wife's visit in a few weeks (she doesn't know yet that I'm joining her, it will be a surprise -- she was disappointed when we told her I probably couldn't make the trip).

As for my political beliefs, what the moron class doesn't realize is that most of them haven't fundamentally changed (some certainly have -- for example, when I was younger, I thought "trickle-down" economics made some sense.  I've since seen -- by watching it actually tried -- that it doesn't work, not even a little bit).

I grew up being anti-authoritarian.  I grew up thinking that a "papers please!" government was a bad thing for people.  I grew up thinking that we shouldn't demonize people because of where they come from.  I grew up proud that we are a destination for refugees (FFS, Reagan himself proudly spoke of that in his farewell address).  I grew up in a nation that, via a REPUBLICAN president, passed things like the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act, which I got to see transform the air and waterways that I loved (grew up cleaning tar off my feet at the coast, now tar is incredibly rare).  I've always thought that using the force of the state to wage a comprehensive campaign to go after your political rivals was chickenshit.  I've always hated gerrymandering.  I grew up believing in and expanding global market and free trade (subject to reasonable regulation).  I grew up thinking that white supremacists, and phrases like "poisoning the blood of our nation" were bad.  I have spent my entire professional life working towards preserving the rule of law, not the rule of whim or decree of a dictator.  I grew up believing that we are a nation of laws, not a cult of a man.  I grew up learning (slowly) about our real history with regard to slavery and race relations, knowing at once that we bear deep scars as a society because of those things, but pride that we continued to move forward positively, in fits and starts.

I was a moderate conservative, with liberty leanings.  I believed in all of those things, and all of those things were welcome in the Republican party of a time.  Hell, most of them were welcome in the Democratic party of that time.  Today....every one of those beliefs would render me an apostate to the MAGA cult.  Shit, Ronald Reagan (a deeply flawed man and POTUS) would be a RINO, unwelcome in that cult.

I'm good with who I am, and what I believe.  Because I have both stuck with the core principles I've long held: I'm a patriotic American who believes in our nation and ideals, flawed as they may be.  I'm a patriotic American who believes that we can be what we claim to be.  That we can provide a good and prosperous future for all Americans, and can lead the world in doing so.  I'm a patriotic American who is proud that we have been a beacon of hope and freedom for so many over the centuries, and believe that we should continue to be.  But I'm also good with who I am because I'm not afraid to learn, and to change my opinions based on evidence and reality.  I have never sworn blind allegiance to a party, or to a man, and I never will.  BECAUSE I am an American.  We don't do that shit.

I want an America that manages to strike an amazing balance in working towards the common good while respecting basic individual liberty.  I'm realistic enough to know that the balance is never perfect, and is often wildly off, but there has been a strain of "we're trying" for a long time.  And like any of us, all of whom are flawed, fallen people, "not perfect, but trying" is pretty damned good.  When I see the country embracing "not perfect, and fuck you, we're proud of it," it saddens and angers me.  My family members each sacrifice of themselves to help others, in many different ways.  It is ingrained in them.  I am proud of them.  Nothing that a desperate, sad soul like you says can change the reality of who they are, what they believe, and how they act on those beliefs.

I'm not perfect.  I learn.  I try.  I fail.  I try again.  I am an American, and in my trying, failing, and trying again -- and learning and getting better -- I am like America.  Or at least, like she was.  And I hope, like she can be again.

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1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

I don't think Brisket keeps it a secret that he used to be like that, many of us were. God forbid someone changes their viewpoints over time instead of just staying a runny pile of shit like you.

You were shitty conservatives most your life, relish this moment. Eat the ass.

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Just now, StassneyHorn said:

You were shitty conservatives most your life, relish this moment. Eat the ass.

I am truly glad to see people like Stassney embrace and admit who they are, and demonstrate that their belief system is utterly divorced from any real ethos.  The things I listed are things that largely mirror the approach of the Economist.  That match the rhetoric (at least spoken, if not genuinely practiced) of numerous conservative leaders from 30-50 years ago, including people like Reagan.  Those outfits and people were "shitty conservatives," according to this movement.  Because a REAL conservative.....is a Trumpist.

Thank you for painting a clearer picture than I ever could.

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No you posted a bunch of masturbatory bullshit and now you want to filibuster.My post history supporting democrats stands on its own and I don’t need to make some verbose stump speech to make a point

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7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I like PBS and NPR. Put the money back,  please. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Bozo's post was brought to you by the letters B and C, and the number 9.

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21 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You were shitty conservatives most your life, relish this moment. Eat the ass.

So you're keeping the schtick? Or still workshopping?

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3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

The ones that fly across the globe to come visit with their hot friends? I wish my kids rejected me.

His kids who actually left home to explore the world. Unlike all the trailer park trash kids who live in the double wide next to mawmaw and daddy and bring their laundry over and have never left the tricity area of Bumfuck, Smallcock and Dingus, Alabama 

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On 8/5/2025 at 11:50 PM, Beau Vine said:

I've decided that there are a shitload of people in this country that know virtually nothing about world history or even US history.

This whole idea of cutting public media might be explicitly based upon fiscal or political leanings in the newsroom, but I can't help but think about Hofstadter's anti-intellectualism ideas being the true root cause.

Now Hofstadter as one of the premier middle-class loving historians of the mid-century is routinely shit upon in academia today, but this book seems fucking spot on.
Richard Hofstadter Anti Intellectualism In American Life Vintage ( 1966)


 

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Our anti-intellectualism is, in fact, older than our national identity, and has a long historical 
background. An examination of this background suggests that regard  for intellectuals in the United States has not moved steadily downward  and has not gone into a sudden, recent decline, but is subject to cyclical fluctuations; it suggests, too, that the resentment from which the intellectual has suffered in our time is a manifestation not of a decline in his position but of his increasing prominence.

 

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15 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Would be more useful to report absolute dollar amounts. Here is the permian basin balance sheet: https://www.basinpbs.org/bento-api/filer-file-download/393324/

Not sure what their viewer rankings are, but they need to step up their membership numbers to close the gap that will result. 

Midland’s got the money, but my gawd, not the will. Not having cable, I can’t access it anyway because the OTA signal’s too weak.

Regardless, I would’ve liked to have seen the raw numbers appear alongside the percentages as well. Undoubtedly, for the smaller stations with massive funding losses, they could likely be made up for at relatively low cost. Having brought up Marfa Public Radio previously in this thread as a real gem, it’d be a shame to see the quality of their programming diminished, but they’ll likely survive out there okay since some relatively deep pockets are probably willing to step up to the plate.

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But what the hell are these income-deprived folks living out in the middle of nowhere on a reservation -- because our federal government forced them there -- going to do? And I highly doubt many have access to decent internet -- could be wrong, of course. Then, you’ve got all those super-duper isolated people up in Alaska losing funding. Maybe I’m erroneously overstating what a lifeline I assume those terrestrial stations are, and I guess they’ll all manage somehow, but this seems so stupidly pointless over such a paltry sum.

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I've experienced anti intellectualism first hand within my own redneck family. They fear and distrust  anyone with any semblance of education or worldiness. All the while yammering out stupid shit on the very devices brought to them by the smarts.

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