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Just now, Hookem2147 said:

That’s even more reason to go for it. You are unlikely to ever get a better chance than the ball at the 1 foot line. And if you kick a FG, you need a TD anyway for it to truly matter.

There is no way anyone can say with a serious face we should have kicked a field goal from the 1 foot line with what we had shown offensively up to that point.

I guess you could make the argument with a serious face if you lack a 6th grade level grasp of probability.

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3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

It was 3rd and 5, and we aren't throwing the ball in that situation. We were throwing because we needed a TD instead of 10-15 more yards for a FG.

You can play hypotheticals all you want. Get 1/2 yard and none of it matters.

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At some point you can’t just say ‘the probability says to go for it’ when conventional game theory stops applying. Perhaps the fact that we’ve been very poor at short yardage situations for five years should start to factor in? Perhaps the psychological benefit of seeing points on the board should be factored in? Or that we have an elite defense that doesn’t need the offense to score a ton of points? I recognize there are counters to this argument, but we’re not simulating a football game we’re playing one. There comes a point where you can’t say ‘the decision was the right one, the play call was the problem’ when it has happened dozens of times. There is clearly a fundamental problem that changes the probabilities.

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Mason Shipley is 31-35 for his career with his longest fg make being 60 yds. With our defense and ability to flip field position, taking the points needs to be the option inside the 40 at 4th & 2+. Point blank

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I think modern coaches risk losing the respect of their players and facing almost immediate transfer and recruiting consequences if they kick FGs at the 1. If it’s debatable to kick the FG or go for it, you have to give your team a chance and go for it. We just need to be less predictable. 

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On 8/30/2025 at 7:01 PM, HtownHorn said:

Sarkisian's 4th down playcalling is fucking abysmal. Has been since he got here kept Reggie Bush on the sideline and ran White into the line in 2005.

 

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On 8/30/2025 at 6:16 PM, TXpride said:

0-7 in the 3Q, ball at the 1 ft line. No coach in the country kicks a FG there.

Until play calling is better. Texas analytics says you take the 3 no matter where you are.

On 8/30/2025 at 6:21 PM, mdmost said:

Going for it wasn't the issue. The play calling on 4th was. 

Until he fixes it going for it is always the issue.

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22 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

That wasn't his decision. He was the QB coach. Lane Kiffin was the OC that made that call, with the support of the head coach.

He said in an interview it was his goof. 

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1 hour ago, B00M said:

I think modern coaches risk losing the respect of their players and facing almost immediate transfer and recruiting consequences if they kick FGs at the 1. If it’s debatable to kick the FG or go for it, you have to give your team a chance and go for it. We just need to be less predictable. 

I wasn't as pissed at Sark for going for it as the play call. Arch may be bigger and stronger than Quinn, but he's not going to plow through 2 LB's set up behind the DT's. When is the last time Texas had an OL that could move a good DL off the ball when they can see what's coming? I certainly can't remember.

You have to spread it out and hit the open gap. There will be a gap if you spread it out like OSU did, even if it's a small gap. Baxter can get 1 yard in a small gap.

And analytics are stupid ass when what you do well against what the opponent does well aren't part of the formula.

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It’s part of his coaching style at this point. Passing up field goals in the first half to go for the conversions against the big name teams is frustrating. I don’t mind it against teams we “should” beat. Situationally, it’s first week of the season breaking in 4 OL and a new QB, so get the points knowing the defense is ahead of the offenses in week 1.

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