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Posted
14 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

In the post nil world, tech is a way better job than Arkansas.  Add an easier automatic qualifier to the playoffs via big 12 and it's not even close, unless you really like trees or hills.

100%.  

Posted
34 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

I'm just not seeing how any of those 3 are a step up from Tech, other than history and tradition.

Tech now has the facilities and support every coach dreams of. McGuire would be better off building his legacy in Lubbock if they win the Big 12 and/or make the CFB Playoff this year.

Tech has one motivated mega-donor.  They are doing well but hanging by a string....specifically the whims  and alive-ness of that donor - kind of like the peril (albeit each managed things differently) at Oregon and Okie State.

Posted
14 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I just don’t understand Freeman leaving Notre Dame for a different job. It doesn’t seem likely to me.

I would totally understand Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but Florida? The guy has never coached outside of the Rust Belt.  Ohio and Indiana only (Ohio State, Kent State, Purdue, Cincy, ND) 

Posted
22 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I just don’t understand Freeman leaving Notre Dame for a different job. It doesn’t seem likely to me.

Brian Kelly did it.

 

Oh, about that...

Posted
3 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Yep Napier gone this Saturday evening makes complete sense. Penn State got the jump on Florida getting into the market and caught them by surprise. I imagine there have been conversations and plans discussed this entire week in Gainesville. 

And if that's what prompted it then I'm not sure a win over MSU changes anything. We might see a guy fired after a win. 

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Tom Herman's final game as the head coach of Texas was the 2020 Valero Alamo Bowl, where his Longhorns defeated the Colorado Buffaloes 55-23. The win capped off his final season at Texas, which concluded with a 7-3 record. He was fired by the university shortly after the game. 

Posted
5 hours ago, ermahgerdhorn said:

Tech has one motivated mega-donor.  They are doing well but hanging by a string....specifically the whims  and alive-ness of that donor - kind of like the peril (albeit each managed things differently) at Oregon and Okie State.

I will say Phil Knight isn't the cheapskate T. Boone Pickens always was. 

Oregon athletic department people feel like Phil Knight has given assurances he's going to donate $6 billion directly to the athletic department. We'll see if that really happens, and it's still not the same as having him alive, but it would help ensure the generosity he's already shown doesn't completely fall off the map. I mean, along with the myriad of physical infrastructure he either paid for or certainly was the financial impetus in getting built. 

I'd also say that Tech's mega donors number at least two. Cody Campbell gets all the media attention, but his partner and former football team mate John Sellers is also a significant contributor. 

The point remains the same. Being dependent on one financial source, whether it's a donor, or a business client, makes you vulnerable to your future relationship with them and their decisions regarding your relationship. The nice thing for Texas Tech is both of those guys are relatively young. 

Posted
Just now, TexasExe14 said:

Will dabo get fired or will he squeak by winning 8 games and they don’t so anything due to the market and demand.

No way Dabo gets fired after this season no matter what happens.

Posted
7 hours ago, ermahgerdhorn said:

Tech has one motivated mega-donor.  They are doing well but hanging by a string....specifically the whims  and alive-ness of that donor - kind of like the peril (albeit each managed things differently) at Oregon and Okie State.

This is just wrong, actual factual bullshit.

2 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

I'd also say that Tech's mega donors number at least two. Cody Campbell gets all the media attention, but his partner and former football team mate John Sellers is also a significant contributor. 

The point remains the same. Being dependent on one financial source, whether it's a donor, or a business client, makes you vulnerable to your future relationship with them and their decisions regarding your relationship. The nice thing for Texas Tech is both of those guys are relatively young. 

They're not even close to the only 2. Pretending it's a T. Boone Pickens or even a Phil Knight situation is just pure cope. Both of those guys could die tomorrow and it would continue unabated. 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

This is just wrong, actual factual bullshit.

They're not even close to the only 2. Pretending it's a T. Boone Pickens or even a Phil Knight situation is just pure cope. Both of those guys could die tomorrow and it would continue unabated. 

I'm not coping. I don't care. I don't consider Texas Tech a real threat to Texas. I feel like NIL, the wealth of some of your donors, and their commitment to football and other athletic programs gives the Red Raiders a chance to build a nice little program in the Big 12. If you get competitive enough, start drawing eyeballs and building a brand, maybe you can get invited to the big boys club eventually. But I don't have a lot of emotional investment in it. Great if you do. Who cares if you don't. 

Same thing with SMU which is doing much the same thing, with a bigger metropolitan more conveniently located, but a smaller fan base and alumni base. SMU has shown a real NIL commitment to their volleyball program, which is another sport I follow closely. I'm casually interested in how it works out for them, but there's no coping, and as a fan I don't feel threatened by it. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

I'm not coping. I don't care. I don't consider Texas Tech a real threat to Texas. I feel like NIL, the wealth of some of your donors, and their commitment to football and other athletic programs gives the Red Raiders a chance to build a nice little program in the Big 12. If you get competitive enough, start drawing eyeballs and building a brand, maybe you can get invited to the big boys club eventually. But I don't have a lot of emotional investment in it. Great if you do. Who cares if you don't. 

Same thing with SMU which is doing much the same thing, with a bigger metropolitan more conveniently located, but a smaller fan base and alumni base. SMU has shown a real NIL commitment to their volleyball program, which is another sport I follow closely. I'm casually interested in how it works out for them, but there's no coping, and as a fan I don't feel threatened by it. 

I've got no dog in this fight, and I'm not trying to fling poo.  

Exactly what does volleyball NIL look like?  What does a HS superstar expect to get in terms of NIL?  What does a journeyman player expect in NIL?

Posted
1 hour ago, BigHornedLurker said:

I would like to confirm i would like to fuck Scarlet Johansson , just in case 

 

Yeah, sure. Back of the line, amigo. It's down to the end and around the corner.

 

 

Posted
9 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I just don’t understand Freeman leaving Notre Dame for a different job. It doesn’t seem likely to me.

I don’t see Penn St is an upgrade.  Also, Freeman became a Catholic so that could be a factor.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

I don’t see Penn St is an upgrade.  Also, Freeman became a Catholic so that could be a factor.

you can't be catholic and coach somewhere else?

Posted
2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

This is just wrong, actual factual bullshit.

They're not even close to the only 2. Pretending it's a T. Boone Pickens or even a Phil Knight situation is just pure cope. Both of those guys could die tomorrow and it would continue unabated. 

Isn’t Mahomes a big donor?

Posted
4 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

I just got to visit Oregon’s athletic facilities this past weekend.  Very impressive to say the least.

I've never been to a campus with as much visible money.  Everything was either brand new or under construction.  I know Harvard's money is buried in supercolliders and mutual funds, but Oregon's is in steel, wood, and glass.

Posted
1 minute ago, Gil Bang said:

define "big".  He makes a shitload, but he's not a billionaire

No idea how much.  I thought I heard he’s donated in the multi millions

Posted
13 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

Just saying it’s apparently important to him. 

Call me a cynic.  Maybe, just maybe, he thought it would be a good career move to convert.  But then again, I'm implying that some "religious" folks are less-than-sincere, and we all know that to be false. 

Posted
5 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I think this would fall under the category of “unintentional humor”.

Saban retired in part because he knew that the Alabama’s alums couldn’t compete with other alumni bases when paying players became legal. 

Penn State alumna could buy Alabama alums many times over. 

If Saban came back out of retirement, he would have a bank roll to compete with any college in the country.

Don’t think that he will un-retire, but he could win a national championship in Happy Valley. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I've got no dog in this fight, and I'm not trying to fling poo.  

Exactly what does volleyball NIL look like?  What does a HS superstar expect to get in terms of NIL?  What does a journeyman player expect in NIL?

There's still a lot more value in volleyball than other sports, but it's on a steep rise.

I don't know how much Stafford got to transfer from Pitt to Texas. There are rumors Kennedy Martin got a $750k deal to transfer to Penn State, but that's not a good source or anything. Could be completely made up. 

Nebraska outbid Texas for Kaitlyn Hord, a first team all American middle blocker back in 2022. They paid $100k for a single season. Texas got Madisen Skinner, an outstanding outside hitter after Skyler Fields transferred from Texas to USC. I don't think either of them got anything approaching $100k. Brian Davis when he was working at the AAS did a FOIA request from Texas for their reported NIL payments in 2022 and the highest one for volleyball was the $50k Eggleston received, but that was a legitimate NIL deal for Champion. 

Nebraska is known to have over $1 million for NIL available every season. But they actually make money in volleyball. And they're about to make more with the addition coming to their volleyball arena with added premium seating. Texas is considered second highest - and that includes local NIL deals with companies like HEB. I haven't heard any rumors about the overall payroll for Texas. Texas does not make money in volleyball. But neither does anyone else. Wisconsin comes the closest after Nebraska. 

We did flip Ayden Ames from Nebraska by selling her on the idea Texas has plenty of NIL opportunities in Austin even if she's not getting paid directly by the collective. She even participated in a panel about it at last year's South By Southwest. 

Marianna Singletary, one of the starting middle blockers, allegedly transferred to UCLA because she wasn't happy with her NIL deal at Texas. But UCLA isn't known for their robust NIL program, so it's hard to imagine she got paid more there. Her best friend goes to school there and she's able to serve, which she wasn't going to be able to do at Texas, so maybe it was for professional/national team development reasons, rather than a higher NIL amount.

SMU brought in 5 prominent transfers from around the country, including 2 from USC, 1 from Auburn, 1 from Texas, and 1 from Colorado State. There was significant competition/interest for all 5 of these players. Two of them, the one from Texas and one of the ones from USC, are considered among the best at their position in the nation, but all of them had significant success at their previous school. Without knowing numbers, I can guarantee you SMU wasn't able to put together that roster without a significant investment...for volleyball, anyway. 

The real answer is I don't know exact figures for a lot of the personnel movement. I get some figures, but only rarely is it reliable like it was for Hort. I do know that there are more schools involved with tampering and NIL investments in volleyball. Nothing crazy like the $1 million per year Tech is giving to Canady for softball, but there isn't anyone in volleyball who can have the same kind of competitive impact Canady did. Softball pitchers are practically unique in almost any team sport in that regard. 

I would say right now anyone other than the very best at their position can be brought in for $100k or less. And I don't know exactly how much it costs to bring in the very best setter, OH, OPP, or middle blocker. LIbero and defensive specialists won't be at the same kind of premium. There are also going to be discounts available. For example, Penn State's starting setter from last year that won the national championship as a freshman has now quit the team because her teammates and coaches felt like she was experiencing physical abuse by her hockey boyfriend. She denies it and is now looking to go somewhere else. How much she will command on the open market I have no idea. 

It's very clear Texas has an attractive NIL pitch in volleyball, because we keep bringing in the best high school players in the country, plus many of the best transfers. Nebraska and Texas pretty much have their pick of the litter in both talent pools, and then everyone else chooses from what's left. That's a little bit of an exaggeration, but not much of one. 

Shockingly, the two teams are the last unbeaten teams in the country, ranked #1 and #2 in the polls, with the serious inside track on being the top seeds when the tournament field is announced. 

I know this didn't answer your question directly, but hopefully it provided some context.

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