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The White House has named nine schools, including Texas, in a letter and says that if they comply with the administration's priorities, they will receive preferential treatment for grants and funding.

The schools are being asked to ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions; freeze tuition for five years; cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%; require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test; and stop "grade inflation." They will be required to share all known information about foreign students. It also obligates them to abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.” Also in the letter: "If universities sign and then violate the terms of the compact, they could be forced to return. private contributions." Finally, they would have to commit to strict definitions of gender--"Whatever that is?" asked the biology professor.

WSJ:

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The White House chose the schools because it believed they are, or could be, “good actors,” Mailman said.

“They have a president who is a reformer or a board that has really indicated they are committed to a higher-quality education,” she said.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?st=JR4did&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

NYT:

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Letters on Wednesday were sent to the University of Arizona, Brown University, Dartmouth College, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Pennsylvania, the University of Southern California, the University of Texas, Vanderbilt University and the University of Virginia.

The nine schools declined to comment or did not immediately respond to messages late on Wednesday.

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The first round of schools received the compact along with a letter that frames the pledge as an opportunity to proactively partner with the administration and its effort to shift the ideological tilt of the higher education system, which the president and his team view as hostile to conservatives and intent on perpetuating liberalism.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/us/politics/trump-college-funding.html

If UT does go along with this, I think our Public Ivy rep will be short-lived. And really, limiting foreign students who pay full tuition and then capping tuition will put many of these schools underwater.

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5 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

They must have banned grade inflation in every class I took. 

Someone has to be on the left side of the curve.

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10 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

They must have banned grade inflation in every class I took. 

I wonder how much that has changed in this era of top X%.  

 

Posted
3 hours ago, BigHorn'13 said:

So no more +/- system?

Recurve based on the most mediocre white student in the class

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15 minutes ago, royiv said:

FWIW, they’re a member of the AAU.

Aggie and ASU are also.  Surprising.  I guess Arizona's moving on up.

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Grade inflation?  Per the webs, as an example, in the 90's only 12-13% of HS kids had a 3.5 GPA or higher, now it's 30+%.....yet ACT/SAT scores have stayed the same.  

Schools padding grades to look better.

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26 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Isn't Arizona a big failson/daughter school?

Lots of California kids that can’t get into the UC schools.

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No doubt the current BOR will push for this to be agreed to, and quickly.  As for the international student number, that's a fairly easy give on UT's part. Despite common notions (mine included before looking it up) only between 5 and 6% of UT students are international students.

Regardless, the proper response should, of course, be "go fuck yourself", but it won't be.

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I'd say UT has already bent the knee wrt/ endorsing nationalism and suppression of "other"s

ut-austin-april-24-2024-campus-protest-riot-police-next-to-22what-starts-here-changes-the-world22-sign.jpeg?w=1024

It's not a question of if UT administration will jump when told to - it's a question of how high are they going to be asked to jump, and which cliff it's off of

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It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

Don't punish or spark violence. Yeah, I can get behind that. No place for that shit in an academic setting, but what the fuck does "belittle conservative ideas" mean exactly? And what, precisely, constitutes a conservative idea?

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

Don't punish or spark violence. Yeah, I can get behind that. No place for that shit in an academic setting, but what the fuck does "belittle conservative ideas" mean exactly? And what, precisely, constitutes a conservative idea?

Surely they mean lower taxes and fewer regulations, right?

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

Don't punish or spark violence. Yeah, I can get behind that. No place for that shit in an academic setting, but what the fuck does "belittle conservative ideas" mean exactly? And what, precisely, constitutes a conservative idea?

its just a requirement that every chapter of your biology book ends with the phrase ". . . unless the bible says otherwise."

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39 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

UT has been making bad decisions for decades now so why won't they continue the trend by acquiescing here.

Hey man, take it to the football board. 

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15 minutes ago, bolverk said:

It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

Don't punish or spark violence. Yeah, I can get behind that. No place for that shit in an academic setting, but what the fuck does "belittle conservative ideas" mean exactly? And what, precisely, constitutes a conservative idea?

Hey don’t worry, they just want to be able to punish, belittle and spark violence against liberal ideas 

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2 hours ago, royiv said:

FWIW, they’re a member of the AAU.

The valedictorian in my son's graduating class was one of those uber-nerds with all A's, perfect score on the SAT, National Merit Scholar, accepted to every university known to man blah blah blah.  She picked Arizona for god only knows what reason.

I mean, I can almost understand if it was a dude that wanted to go get his freak on without going full regard at ASU.  But this was your typical suburban Indian girl.

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Just now, Fudge Nuggets said:

So Arizona is to Cali as Arky is to Texas?

And LSU and Ole Miss and Alabama and Auburn

 

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24 minutes ago, bolverk said:

It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

Don't punish or spark violence. Yeah, I can get behind that. No place for that shit in an academic setting, but what the fuck does "belittle conservative ideas" mean exactly? And what, precisely, constitutes a conservative idea?

Whatever they say it means on that particular day.

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25 minutes ago, bolverk said:

It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

Don't punish or spark violence. Yeah, I can get behind that. No place for that shit in an academic setting, but what the fuck does "belittle conservative ideas" mean exactly? And what, precisely, constitutes a conservative idea?

I think the admin is specifically talking about escaped CR inmates coming into DT and being mean. 

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Are y'all excited that your degrees are going to be worth jack shit in a few more years?  I feel sorry for the kids that graduated in the last few years where it was so difficult to gain admittance only to have it not be worth anything after all is said and done.

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2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Are y'all excited that your degrees are going to be worth jack shit in a few more years?  I feel sorry for the kids that graduated in the last few years where it was so difficult to gain admittance only to have it not be worth anything after all is said and done.

I dont buy that

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7 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Whatever they say it means on that particular day.

Right. So, for example, supposed "conservatives" said they were all about Free Speech this time last year, as if liberals and moderates actively oppose that notion, and let's not forget, the University of Texas at Austin actively suppressed the speech of students protesting the war in Gaza.

And here, they say that they will punish the University if it allows for "conservative ideas" to be belittled, which is basically saying don't let professors/students speak freely if they think one of those ideas is dumb. So, more or less, they're threatening to punish Free Speech that they don't like.

Isn't threatening to punish Free Speech that you don't like the antithesis of Free Speech? Or is punishing Free Speech that you don't like actually a "conservative idea?"

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7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Rex Kramer vibes intensify

As soon as it was apparent a few weeks ago who that account belonged to, I immediately put it on ignore. He's an absolutely worthless poster who brings nothing to the table. He's just an overbearing, bloviating bore who lacks the capacity for self-reflection. And here is clumsily acting like a trollish fool.

Do your best to forget he exists.

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3 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

They must have banned grade inflation in every class I took. 

In my experience at UT, grade inflation is also caused by the students.  I'd give a test and half the students who didn't make an A on it would be at my office with a Q-drop form.

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1 hour ago, ImNotMarkinson said:

this part certainly doesn't raise any red flags.

 

Hans Landa — DIRECTORS' LIBRARY

 

they only care about students from african and latin counties, care about keeping them out 

this deal is letting stephen miller have a heavy hand in class make up

white is right !

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39 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

So Arizona is to Cali as Arky is to Texas?

Definitely a lot of that. Also a fair number of kids that want to get out of cold/gloomy weather. My wife falls into that category. She grew up in the PNW and was attracted to Arizona by the sun.

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2 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Hey now, my oldest teaches at the Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law

ASU’s undergrad programs are a mess, but Crow hasn’t yet managed to fuck up the law school. Of the two law schools in Arizona, ASU’s is held in higher regard.

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58 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Rex Kramer vibes intensify

 

46 minutes ago, bolverk said:

As soon as it was apparent a few weeks ago who that account belonged to, I immediately put it on ignore. He's an absolutely worthless poster who brings nothing to the table. He's just an overbearing, bloviating bore who lacks the capacity for self-reflection. And here is clumsily acting like a trollish fool.

Do your best to forget he exists.

So Rex asks @immamac to nuke his account from orbit (just to be sure). He "leaves" only to come back with the handle of one of the worst Ticket callers in the three-decade history of the station? That tracks.

 

30 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Arizona State is the far less serious of the two schools.

Also this.

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5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

So Rex asks @immamac to nuke his account from orbit (just to be sure). He "leaves" only to come back with the handle of one of the worst Ticket callers in the three-decade history of the station? That tracks.

 

This is at least his second incarnation since asking for the nuke from orbit request. @King George was one that got crowd-sourced after spreading a bunch of trash info on the flood thread in July.

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