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6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Did he also point out to you the roaring market in paying off local petty bureaucrats at the DMV for desirable license plate prefixes and suffixes? So you pay crazy for 777 A777 and somewhat less but still cash for 543 B215.

No, but that seems like it would check out.

He did explain that his staff (local Armenians) were SUPER pissed at him when it came time for him to buy a car for his time in-country.....and he bought a Lada.  He bought it because he thought it would be a hoot to drive (it was -- it's just a generic "car," with ZERO bells and whistles).  They wanted him to buy a Mercedes, because their boss's prestige reflects on them.  And their boss drove....a fuckin' Lada.  No Armenian employee is getting laid with the pickup line of "so...my boss drives a Lada."

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51 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Did he also point out to you the roaring market in paying off local petty bureaucrats at the DMV for desirable license plate prefixes and suffixes? So you pay crazy for 777 A777 and somewhat less but still cash for 543 B215.

Had a buddy who bought crashed lambos and Ferraris in Dubai and shipped them to the UK. And then he did the same thing in London and shipped parts back to Dubai. Fucking brit make a fortune. 

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25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Or doing something that requires them to have a force to help keep him in power.

 

I mean Russia has done some dumb things, and I wouldn't put it past them, but using Belarus soldiers to go after any country would be monumentally stupid. The Belarus army is horrible. I mean they really suck. And the roads through the Ukranian border with Belarus have been actively mined. And the people of Belarus and the military are not on the same page which you rightfully noted. A broad guerrilla movement has evolved in Belarus with its members blowing up railway tracks and Russian warplanes. And even worse from a Russian perspective, the Belarus military is conflicted and many will likely refuse orders.

Within that context Belarus has constructed storage facilities for tactical nuclear weapons and Russia already has modified Belarusian warplanes to carry nuclear weapons. Plus it has given Belarus Iskander short-range missiles that can be fitted with a nuclear warhead and has trained Belarusian crews to operate planes and missiles armed with nuclear weapons.

Poland’s  has secured the northern border with the Kaliningrad Oblast and the eastern border with Belarus in anticipation of rapid support from allied forces. It has also focused on securing the Suwalki Gap which connects Poland to Lithuania between Kaliningrad and Belarus.

So basically, it would expand the war and would guarantee the collapse of Belarus and Russia.

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https://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/commentary/the-war-in-ukraine-one-year-on-will-belarus-join-the-battlefield/

 

Belarus has served as a springboard for Russia’s war against Ukraine from the outset. Russian forces invaded Ukraine from Belarus, despite prior assurances by top Belarusian officials that this would not happen, and the country has continuously provided logistical support, supply lines and medical care for Russian soldiers. Russian military aircraft have used Belarusian airfields, and as of mid-September, Russia had launched at least 717 missiles from Belarus. According to a group of independent Belarusian monitors, from March until September Belarus also sent to Russia over 65,000 tonnes of ammunition, about 100 Soviet-era tanks (the likes of TM-72A) and approximately 20 armoured vehicles.

Following the announcement last October by Belarus’ president Aliaksandr Lukashenka, of the deployment of a Joint Regional Military Group, many Russian soldiers flocked to Belarus. Most of them appeared to be mobilised reservists (approximately 10,000 at a peak time in December), who underwent training by Belarusian senior officers.

Russia has also been moving scores of weapons and other military equipment in and out of Belarus. Among the units remaining in Belarus are S-400 air-defence and Iskander and Top M2 missile systems, as well as fighter jets and other military aircraft, including the MiG-31K, fitted with Kinzhal missiles that are capable of reaching targets 2,000 km away.

In a similar pattern to that which preceded the war, the two countries have also carried out joint military exercises in Belarus, first air and then ground operations. Belarusian and Russian troops were rumoured even to have been mixed in preparation for joint fighting in Ukraine. The Belarusian authorities also called up reservists to enlistment offices, with the official explanation given for this being to update their military records.

None of this necessarily signals that Belarus is planning to join the war or lend its territory to a new offensive. Another attack on Kyiv looks currently unlikely. In theory, however, Russian troops could attack Western Ukraine from Belarus with a view to cutting off supplies of Western weapons and ammunition. But with the Russian soldiers trained in Belarus appearing to have left for the Donbas, the estimated 5,000 remaining would be insufficient for a fresh offensive.

In theory, however, Russian troops could attack Western Ukraine from Belarus with a view to cutting off supplies of Western weapons and ammunition. Katia Glod

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Yet such military posturing by Belarus has compelled Ukraine to watch its northern neighbour closely. Ukrainian forces have fortified and mined territory close to Belarus, and blown up some bridges. Rather than concentrating all its forces in the east and south of the country, Ukraine has kept around 20,000 troops along the Belarusian border.

Domestically, public opinion is a strong factor pulling Lukashenka away from direct involvement in the war. Only a third of Belarusians support Russia’s war, whilst 93% oppose a potential deployment of Belarusian soldiers to fight in Ukraine. Just 18% believe that Belarusian soldiers would fight properly, rather than look for ways of avoiding battle.

Russia’s losses on the battlefield have strengthened this view. High-ranking military officers told an independent news outlet anonymously that Belarusian armed forces’ deep belief in the prowess and superiority of the Russian army had crumbled.

Apart from low morale, Belarusian troops also lack combat experience and are small in numbers. Whilst some 45,000 are on the books, no more than 10,000 are professionally trained and relatively well-equipped, and even they are unlikely to be suitable for largescale warfare. Sending them to fight in Ukraine would also leave the Belarusian president with no reliable army in Minsk to protect him. Several Belarusian army units had to be mobilised in 2020 to help put down the mass protests following the fraudulent presidential election.

A general draft would pose high political risks for Lukashenka. Considering the public’s aversion to the war, and the probability that Belarusian troops would become cannon fodder, support for the Belarusian president, already below 30%, would plummet further. A lot of men would want to flee mobilisation, but would be unable to on account of the lack of a shared border with a visa-free country. Their anger and frustration would augment public discontent.

A lot of men would want to flee mobilisation, but would be unable to on account of the lack of a shared border with a visa-free country. Their anger and frustration would augment public discontent. Katia Glod

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The Belarusian opposition might exploit the situation to re-ignite public protests. Some opposition forces are already showing more appetite for non-peaceful resistance, after civilian protests in 2020 failed to bring about political change. The Transitional Cabinet, led by the leader of Belarus’ democratic movement, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, is supporting a network of volunteers ready for a mass uprising against the regime and “Russian occupation.” A number of Belarusians – estimates range from a few hundred to a few thousand – are fighting on the side of the Ukrainian army are also working on a plan to “free Belarus.” A popular uprising in Belarus could be dangerous for Russia’s president Vladimir Putin, too, by eliminating one of his closest allies and inspiring political turmoil within Russia.

War is inherently unpredictable. Even if Putin might now believe that Belarusian troops would be more of a liability than an asset in his war, this could change at any moment. If Putin felt desperate or threatened, as the West stepped up the supply of weapons to Ukraine, or Ukrainian armed forces staged a successful counter-offensive, he might reconsider opening a new front from Belarus.

In such a scenario, Putin would have the means to twist Lukashenka’s arm. Putin backed the Belarusian president after he lost legitimacy in the fraudulent 2020 election. Russia has also taken up about 30% of the trade that Belarus had with the EU but was destroyed by Western sanctions. Belarusian industry and households rely on cheap Russian gas and discounted oil.

Wishing to avoid a public backlash against sending troops, Lukashenka could provide covert help to Russia. A former high-ranking homeland forces officer who is now a member of the opposition United Cabinet, has alleged that an equivalent of the infamous Wagner group has been set up in Belarus. Apparently “Gardservice” has received special permission to possess live ammunition. Over recent months it has allegedly recruited over a thousand former soldiers. They are now being trained in Belarus, some of them by Wagner mercenaries.

Wishing to avoid a public backlash against sending troops, Lukashenka could provide covert help to Russia. A former high-ranking homeland forces officer who is now a member of the opposition United Cabinet, has alleged that an equivalent of the infamous Wagner group has been set up in

Lukashenka might also claim that Ukraine, or NATO forces, are about to attack Belarus, and even enlist Russia’s help in staging such a provocation. Last October, he claimed that “NATO and a number of European countries wanted to drag Belarus into the war to settle scores with both Belarus and Russia.” Top Belarusian officials have already gone to factories and other state-owned companies, telling workers that that the war could spread, and that Belarus should therefore act proactively to defend itself. In such a scenario, the deployment of Belarusian troops to Ukraine “for defence purposes” might even be supported publicly, particularly by the roughly 40% of the population who consume state media.

However unlikely, the possibility of Ukraine striking back at Belarus should not be ruled out. Ukrainian military experts say that in the event of a new Russian assault, Ukraine might target enemy units regardless of their location. That could create panic in Belarus and might lead to a new wave of refugees for Europe to worry about.

Last December, Putin hinted that Russia was training Belarusian pilots to fly aircraft fitted with nuclear warheads. Although Lukashenka has threatened the West with a nuclear strike, it is highly unlikely that the Russian president would share control over nukes, let alone with such an unpredictable ally as Lukashenka.

Having severed ties with the West, the Belarusian president is finding it increasingly difficult to conduct foreign policy independently from Russia. Anti-war sentiment and the risk of potential instability at home, combined with minimal military capabilities, have allowed him to shun direct involvement in the war. However, a changing situation on the battlefield could tip the balance towards intervention. Policymakers need to work out how they would respond to the conflict spreading.

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Danone is Dannon's parent company. 

 The CEO of Danone Russia, after it was effectively nationalized by the state, is now the deputy prime minister of Chechnya - Minister of Agriculture of the republic Yakub Zakriev -

Who is also Kadyrov's nephew. 

More information on how Russian state took over control of Danone Russia: bbc.com/news/business-…

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1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

Shame

 

Like most here, my views of Russians were shaped during the Cold War. The movie scene that always stuck with me was Highlander when Sanchez was explaining the Kurgan. An ancient tribe from Russia that were extremely cruel and tossed children into a pit of hungry dogs for entertainment. For some reason that scene stuck with me as a kid.

Looking beyond all the Cold War propaganda it turns out Russians really are shitty people.

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Supposedly Odessa was pounded again tonight, around 30 cruise missiles and 20 or so drones,   It’s hard to say because, at least in my experience, Twitter has been flooded with Russian trolls/bots in the past day or so  pushing the idea that Crimea and Odessa belong to Russia, etc. etc. etc. and they are pushing all kinds of bullshit.

speaking of Odessa

Russia’s announcement to terminate the grain deal has been as expectable as it is short-sighted. It hurts the few “non-hostile countries” Russia has in the Middle East, Africa and Asia. Especially Turkey will find a proper answer. We will see how long or even if Russia can really execute this threat.

The Turkish Navy easily outguns the Russian Navy in the Black Sea. If it wouldn’t affect innocent people, who are suffering from hunger, I would welcome it because it will backfire.

But either way it shows that Moscow is led by political (and military) illiterates who completely lost their script and aimlessly try to inflict damage against Ukraine which will never stop to opposing them, until Russia has left Ukraine. But not thinking the thought to its logical end is something Russia is showing over and over again. It is totally on brand with all what Russia does.

 

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The Ukrainian Ambassador to Turkey, Vasyl Bondar stated that they are now hoping to come to some sort of Agreement with Bulgaria and Romania that will allow Ukrainian Commercial Ships to used their Territorial Waters in order to create a “Safe Shipping Lane” for the Export of Grain.

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Ukrainian Ambassador to Turkey, Vasyl Bondar stated that they are now hoping to come to some sort of Agreement with Bulgaria and Romania that will allow Ukrainian Commercial Ships to used their Territorial Waters in order to create a “Safe Shipping Lane” for the Export of Grain.

What a shock, when push comes to shove Erdogen folds after the river when he has the nuts. More like fucking peanuts, the bitch 

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12 hours ago, KYHorn said:

Danone is Dannon's parent company. 

 The CEO of Danone Russia, after it was effectively nationalized by the state, is now the deputy prime minister of Chechnya - Minister of Agriculture of the republic Yakub Zakriev -

Who is also Kadyrov's nephew. 

More information on how Russian state took over control of Danone Russia: bbc.com/news/business-…

They put a literal mouth breather in charge?  haha haha

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10 hours ago, F250 said:

Like most here, my views of Russians were shaped during the Cold War. The movie scene that always stuck with me was Highlander when Sanchez was explaining the Kurgan. An ancient tribe from Russia that were extremely cruel and tossed children into a pit of hungry dogs for entertainment. For some reason that scene stuck with me as a kid.

Looking beyond all the Cold War propaganda it turns out Russians really are shitty people.

And now we know your secret with the ladies, quoting Highlander.

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Ukrainian Ambassador to Turkey, Vasyl Bondar stated that they are now hoping to come to some sort of Agreement with Bulgaria and Romania that will allow Ukrainian Commercial Ships to used their Territorial Waters in order to create a “Safe Shipping Lane” for the Export of Grain.

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If Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania committed to use their respective navies and other defensive tool to protect grain ships, how effective would they be?  Those grain ships could hug the shores of those countries, presumably close enough shore-based defensive weapons would come into play.

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27 minutes ago, Parliament said:

If Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania committed to use their respective navies and other defensive tool to protect grain ships, how effective would they be?  Those grain ships could hug the shores of those countries, presumably close enough shore-based defensive weapons would come into play.

Well if it's within their territorial waters, Russia won't do shit, since it'd be Article 5'd.  Territorial waters extend around 14 miles from the shore, so they wouldn't have to completely hug the shore.

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Putin  not going to make an appearance at the BRICS summit.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/world/putin-brics-summit-south-africa-intl/index.html

Prigozhin seen in public

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/19/europe/prigozhin-wagner-belarus-appears-intl/index.html

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“Welcome guys! I am happy to greet you all. Welcome to the Belarusian land! We fought with dignity! We have done a lot for Russia,” a man resembling and sounding like Prigozhin says in the video, which was posted on pro-Wagner Telegram channels on Wednesday and then shared on Prigozhin’s account.

In the video, a fighter seemingly addresses the Wagner leader as “Yevgeny Viktorovich,” Prigozhin’s first name and patronymic. The video appears unedited and metadata on the file suggests it was created on Wednesday at dawn.

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The video is grainy and filmed in low light so CNN cannot definitively say the speaker is Prigozhin or when it was filmed. CNN is working to geolocate the footage. In the video, the Wagner leader criticized the Russian Ministry of Defense’s planning and execution of military operations in Ukraine, and suggested that his soldiers would not fight in Ukraine for now.

“What is happening now at the front is a disgrace in which we do not need to participate. We need to wait for the moment when we can prove ourselves fully,” Prigozhin said. “Therefore a decision was taken for us to station here in Belarus for some time. I am sure that during this time we will make the Belarusian army second greatest in the world. And if needed, we will defend them if it comes to it.”

MI6 says Putin cut a deal with Prigozhin

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-19-23/h_2dd4b6c91376262ab748dc313794cde1

 

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So lemme get this right.  We are told the BRICS are gonna do their own currency or whatever, and break the American dollar's stranglehold in global financial transactions.  While at the same time, the R is afraid the S would arrest their head of state if he visited the S.  Would a currency with that going on in the backgrould be viable?  

I'm confused.  Please tell me what I'm missing here, and talk to me like I'm a rural Ohioan.

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

But either way it shows that Moscow is led by political (and military) illiterates who completely lost their script and aimlessly try to inflict damage against Ukraine which will never stop to opposing them, until Russia has left Ukraine. But not thinking the thought to its logical end is something Russia is showing over and over again. It is totally on brand with all what Russia does.

Russia is perfectly fine with creating a famine in Africa and the Middle East. They'll blame Ukraine and the west. They push the narrative that its all due to sanctions and the continuing of the war. There will be plenty of dumbasses that will agree. It'll also cause an influx of African/ME refugees into Europe. Another win for Russia that helps destabilize Europe.

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14 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So lemme get this right.  We are told the BRICS are gonna do their own currency or whatever, and break the American dollar's stranglehold in global financial transactions.  While at the same time, the R is afraid the S would arrest their head of state if he visited the S.  Would a currency with that going on in the backgrould be viable?  

I'm confused.  Please tell me what I'm missing here, and talk to me like I'm a rural Ohioan.

South Africa is a signatory to the ICC. The ICC has an arrest warrant out for Putin so their obligated to arrest him if he visits SA. 

BRICS is an alliance of convenience. No one really wants yuan, rubles, rupees, etc. 

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well if it's within their territorial waters, Russia won't do shit, since it'd be Article 5'd.  Territorial waters extend around 14 miles from the shore, so they wouldn't have to completely hug the shore.

As I mentioned the day the news of the grain treaty broke, Russia is unlikely to harass or interdict ships at sea and that’s not the real pressure point. What I predicted, and happened, was mass attacks on port infrastructure especially Odesa. 
 

Russia doesn’t need to do a full active naval blockade since it’s capable of striking Odesa and other key facilities, and that’s of more interest to them than attacking grain ships anyway. 

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29 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So lemme get this right.  We are told the BRICS are gonna do their own currency or whatever, and break the American dollar's stranglehold in global financial transactions.  While at the same time, the R is afraid the S would arrest their head of state if he visited the S.  Would a currency with that going on in the backgrould be viable?  

I'm confused.  Please tell me what I'm missing here, and talk to me like I'm a rural Ohioan.

There’s no BRICS currency on the horizon. It’s just a thing Russia is trying to make happen online. 
 

BRICS are a mashup of convenience and have some chances to work some advantageous economic arrangements and lever their power, but no cohesion or capability to coordinate politically/militarily. 

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