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21 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I am biased because I have friends who were involved, but from the sounds of it, Deboer's S&C and Nutrition & Wellness programs have gone to absolute shit.

Sounds like he needs to go hire a dinosaur off the couch.  This is a line of scrimmage league.  Week in week out.  Grind.

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I have witnessed Alabama football doing some desert wandering a few times in my 65 or so years of relatively focused and sentient observations. I don’t trash opponents (with one notable exception) and I don’t bail on coaches and bitch about them after the fact.  I don’t give one shit what anyone says on Finebaum or social media.  I am thankful for the effort Paul Bryant, Gene Stallings and Nick Saban put forth when they coached in Tuscaloosa. I am hopelessly addicted to following this team come what may. I was not shocked to see Bryant or Saban retire, don’t blame either of them for wanting peace in their lives. Bryant smoked too many unfiltered Chesterfields to have a retirement break.  I hope Saban has many years and doesn’t make the mistake of returning to corching. I am keeping my promise to give Kalen DeBoer a two year pass and hope he finds success here or somewhere.  All this ridiculing by ignorant deconstuctive critics accomplishes nothing. Poor Mike Shula had a meh first press conference, after which Finebaum and other muckrakers said he was not a good “fit.” I say all comparisons are odious and we should light a few candles rather than curse the darkness, or we’ll be wandering in the darkness for a dozen years like the Burnt Orange after Pasadena. Never give up or give in. Never concede.

i went down to the Swamp in 1991 and saw Stallings’ second Bama team get crushed 35-0, and all you heard was get rid of Stallings, he was a loser in the NFL, he’ll never win at Alabama. The next week we had an ugly win over UGA at Bryant-Denny, and didn’t lose again for 29 games. Patience, motherfuckers!

 

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58 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

We’re 3-3 in our last 6

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!

You're intentionally drawing a comparison between 3 close losses to Georgia, Ohio State and Ohio State to losses to Vanderbilt (7-6), Tennessee (10-3), OU (6-7), Michigan (8-5) and unranked FSU? Can you elaborate on your thinking? 

1 hour ago, Noozak said:

What's interesting to me is that all the commentary on Ryan Williams is that he hasn't improved. Lazy route running, bad pad height, etc. AJ McCarron went off on him the other day. People are saying he doesn't look any bigger or faster this year either. I guess that goes to the comments up thread about the lack of S&C work. Someone like Williams is likely to be fielding offers from other schools constantly. At what point does he start taking those seriously?

Williams, per consensus on the Bama boards, is making $2.3M minimum this season. If you didn't get a chance to see him in the back half of last year or in the FSU game, that payout might make sense, but I don't see him being worth that. He weighs 170 pounds. Teams after the Vandy game last year started bullying him at the LOS and he struggled to get loose. The back 6 games of last year plus the FSU game, Williams has caught for 246 yards, 35 ypg, and 1 TD (another TD against mighty Mercer running the ball as well). SCar was their 6th game of last season and they were the first defense to fully mug the guy at the LOS.

They devised a really smart solution heading into this season of putting him in the slot and having him run middle of the field slot routes. He went 5 for 30 and got knocked out of the game. He was a complete nonfactor even though, with 11 targets, Bama damned sure wanted that to be the case. 

So, yeah, maybe he heads elsewhere for more money, but I sure as shit hope it isn't Texas being willing to pay it. 

To the point about S&C, I do think the guy needs to add significantly more upper body strength, irrespective of whether that's a lot of additional weight (doesn't have to be). If S&C is broken at Alabama, him going somewhere else might really work, but I still wouldn't say that if $2.3M+ is the asking price.

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5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!

You're intentionally drawing a comparison between 3 close losses to Georgia, Ohio State and Ohio State to losses to Vanderbilt (7-6), Tennessee (10-3), OU (6-7), Michigan (8-5) and unranked FSU? Can you elaborate on your thinking? 

Williams, per consensus on the Bama boards, is making $2.3M minimum this season. If you didn't get a chance to see him in the back half of last year or in the FSU game, that payout might make sense, but I don't see him being worth that. He weighs 170 pounds. Teams after the Vandy game last year started bullying him at the LOS and he struggled to get loose. The back 6 games of last year plus the FSU game, Williams has caught for 246 yards, 35 ypg, and 1 TD (another TD against mighty Mercer running the ball as well). SCar was their 6th game of last season and they were the first defense to fully mug the guy at the LOS.

They devised a really smart solution heading into this season of putting him in the slot and having him run middle of the field slot routes. He went 5 for 30 and got knocked out of the game. He was a complete nonfactor even though, with 11 targets, Bama damned sure wanted that to be the case. 

So, yeah, maybe he heads elsewhere for more money, but I sure as shit hope it isn't Texas being willing to pay it. 

To the point about S&C, I do think the guy needs to add significantly more upper body strength, irrespective of whether that's a lot of additional weight (doesn't have to be). If S&C is broken at Alabama, him going somewhere else might really work, but I still wouldn't say that if $2.3M+ is the asking price.

I can see Ryan Williams ending up on a similar path to Harold Perkins. Be a 5* recruit, play absolutely out of your mind during a game your freshman year, be declared a generational talent and then proceed to not do much and play out of position while being a massive NIL resource sink.

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A guy like Worthy is also around 170lbs, so it's certainly possible with the right development and scheme. I suppose someone will be stupid enough to pay that much money for him despite his market value being a bit more questionable. I'm sure there are numerous examples of egos for those involved (player/agent/parent) that won't swallow a smaller offer with a better promise of development. 

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6 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

I can see Ryan Williams ending up on a similar path to Harold Perkins. Be a 5* recruit, play absolutely out of your mind during a game your freshman year, be declared a generational talent and then proceed to not do much and play out of position while being a massive NIL resource sink.

The guys on XM 84 have been bragging about Perkins all week after the Clemson game. Maybe he has a bounce back season. Not discrediting your thoughts because I am also a skeptic and he was absolutely a resource drain last year. Arkansas better be on the lookout, though.

5 minutes ago, Noozak said:

A guy like Worthy is also around 170lbs, so it's certainly possible with the right development and scheme. I suppose someone will be stupid enough to pay that much money for him despite his market value being a bit more questionable. I'm sure there are numerous examples of egos for those involved (player/agent/parent) that won't swallow a smaller offer with a better promise of development. 

Regarding Worthy, the guy was ridiculously strong. He could also throw the ball like a QB. He's gifted, physically. 

On the NIL side, one of the most common reasons players leave programs is that they want more or the same money as the prior cycle and the program doesn't see them as worth that. They threaten to find someone who will pay what they ask and the school tells them "you should go do that". Obviously, Iamaleava is the best example of that drama, but closer to home is Amari Niblack, who wanted a re-up after a lost season. ATM was dumb enough to offer to make that happen after Texas passed.

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If we are going to take a WR out of Alabama, Cam Coleman seems like the more likely candidate. Jackson Arnold still can't pass worth a shit, and after Coleman barely gets 40 catches on the season, he might determine he's had enough of the shitty QBs at Auburn.

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