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10 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

according to this article... the entire Texas grid was 4 mins and 37 seconds away from complete and total collapse that probably would have lasted a month or more. 

 

we were literally less than 5 mins away from the entire state becoming a 4th world country.

 

Seems like we may want to look into hooking into the other two grids.  But that's just me.

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14 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Seems like we may want to look into hooking into the other two grids.  But that's just me.

just like Slick Rick, i would rather die of extreme cold and lack of potable water with no federal regulation on our energy grid on my feet rather than live in an electrically stable temperature controlled home drinking safe water on my knees after kowtowing to federal regulation.  But you pussies do what you want

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25 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Seems like we may want to look into hooking into the other two grids.  But that's just me.

Without further information, I'm not sure being hooked into anyone else's grid really is a solution here.  Seems just as likely to spread the problem as to solve ours.

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Without further information, I'm not sure being hooked into anyone else's grid really is a solution here.  Seems just as likely to spread the problem as to solve ours.

So what you're saying is we can drag everyone down along with us & speed the end times?  I'm possibly down with that idea.

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Should/can I try to fix thus myself or just call a plumber/irrigation guy? Part impossible to find?

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I have the exact same crack in my valve. My irrigation guy says the part is on back order. I turned my water off at the valve and then bled the device. I was unable to turn the water off below that point hence the broken valve.
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I went to buy a packing nut washer and they don't sell that at home depot. The guy told me I needed a hardware store and there is only an Ace about 3 miles away and I don't know if they carry it anyway. I'd have to hit a Ferguson over near St. Elmo or somewhere way over there. Fuck that.  He said they sell the whole bib, so just replace it. I didn't know the size or whether male or female so I bought 4 and took them home. It turns out it is a 1/2 inch female. I don't know that I have the right wrench or strength to undo the old faucet but I at least have the right replacement and I can take the other 3 back. I'll give this a try tomorrow after I watch some you tubes. Maybe this is way easier, especially if I figure out what is the best tool to use.  

I don’t know why you would look anywhere other than South Austin’s mom for a nut washer. Always my go to.
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4 minutes ago, HouTex said:


I have the exact same crack in my valve. My irrigation guy says the part is on back order. I turned my water off at the valve and then bled the device. I was unable to turn the water off below that point hence the broken valve.

If you’re in Houston I got your guy. Replaced mine for $225 yesterday and he confirmed that they’re basically gone in Texas and not to expect them soon because of demand.  With new home building picking back up in the north soon, and all the damages in Texas, you won’t see them for months. This guy bought 50 early last week knowing they were going to fly off the shelves.

FYI the company that makes these, supplies like 90% of the ones in the US. Ticker symbol is WTS, you’re welcome. 

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48 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

If you’re in Houston I got your guy. Replaced mine for $225 yesterday and he confirmed that they’re basically gone in Texas and not to expect them soon because of demand.  With new home building picking back up in the north soon, and all the damages in Texas, you won’t see them for months. This guy bought 50 early last week knowing they were going to fly off the shelves.

FYI the company that makes these, supplies like 90% of the ones in the US. Ticker symbol is WTS, you’re welcome. 

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If you’re in Houston I got your guy. Replaced mine for $225 yesterday and he confirmed that they’re basically gone in Texas and not to expect them soon because of demand.  With new home building picking back up in the north soon, and all the damages in Texas, you won’t see them for months. This guy bought 50 early last week knowing they were going to fly off the shelves.
FYI the company that makes these, supplies like 90% of the ones in the US. Ticker symbol is WTS, you’re welcome. 

I think your guy is trying to make you feel better about the NLAA fucking he gave you.

I picked one up for less than $30 yesterday at Sprinkler Warehouse on Jackrabbit Rd.
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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Without further information, I'm not sure being hooked into anyone else's grid really is a solution here.  Seems just as likely to spread the problem as to solve ours.

My parents in BFE East Texas never lost power or water cause they’re in the LA shared grid. They lose power on 70 degree April days sometimes since all lines are through dense pine trees. Sharing works. 

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5 minutes ago, Player said:


I think your guy is trying to make you feel better about the NLAA fucking he gave you.

I picked one up for less than $30 yesterday at Sprinkler Warehouse on Jackrabbit Rd.

Maybe so. Maybe you should have shared that with the rest of the group before I paid $225 to have it replaced. 

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2 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

My parents in BFE East Texas never lost power or water cause they’re in the LA shared grid. They lose power on 70 degree April days sometimes since all lines are through dense pine trees. Sharing works. 

Nevertheless, I think hooking up our massive demand and failing grid to another grid is not necessarily a complete solution, and maybe no solution at all.

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My BIL owns a large landscaping business in Austin. Said he's seen a ton of decimated swimming pools --- broken pipes, cracked tile, broken valves, broken pumps. I'm afraid to see what's going to happen when people decide to try their irrigation systems. 

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Ok, I think most people have the immediate plumbing stuff addressed (ie no active leaks). What about plants?

I have a (had a?) large blue agave in my front yard. Most of the arms are mush. But the center stalk is erect.  Will it make it?

Have (had?) a big spineless prickley pear cactus that looked like it melted. Ironically, the ones with thorns look fine. Would have rathered the opposite. 
 

Have (had?) a couple of big sago palms, the fronds are all yellow. Are they goners?

 

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Ok, I think most people have the immediate plumbing stuff addressed (ie no active leaks). What about plants?
I have a (had a?) large blue agave in my front yard. Most of the arms are mush. But the center stalk is erect.  Will it make it?
Have (had?) a big spineless prickley pear cactus that looked like it melted. Ironically, the ones with thorns look fine. Would have rathered the opposite. 
 
Have (had?) a couple of big sago palms, the fronds are all yellow. Are they goners?
 


Our sagos are yellow too, but greening up a little bit on the bottom so I'm hopeful they'll make it. I lost a few really nice prickly pears though, which sucks.
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Just now, BradInATX said:


Our sagos are greening up a little bit on the bottom so I'm hopeful they'll make it. I lost a few really nice prickly pears though, which sucks.

I'll be honest.....I didn't think anything could kill prickly pear.  But as I drive around and see the carnage....I was clearly wrong.  They all look to be toast.  Like....all of them.  It's going to be fascinating next hunting season to be in a landscape where all the prickly pear is dead, and has to start over.

I'm also wondering how many trees are going to die.  Oaks etc. -- big natives -- should make it.  But I think a lot of ornamentals and invasives will die.  Cedars, of course, other than broken limbs from the weight of the snow, ARE FUCKING FINE.  NOTHING CAN KILL THEM.  EVIL NEVER DIES.

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8 minutes ago, hornian said:

Ok, I think most people have the immediate plumbing stuff addressed (ie no active leaks). What about plants?

I have a (had a?) large blue agave in my front yard. Most of the arms are mush. But the center stalk is erect.  Will it make it?

Have (had?) a big spineless prickley pear cactus that looked like it melted. Ironically, the ones with thorns look fine. Would have rathered the opposite. 
 

Have (had?) a couple of big sago palms, the fronds are all yellow. Are they goners?

 

I've read you need to cut away the mush on plants like the agave, and try to protect the center from any further freezing, by covering.  The mush can rot and grow other bad stuff on it (mold?) that will harm whatever good part is still left.

Our sago palms usually come back bigger than ever after we have enough of a freeze to turn their fronds yellow, after we cut them back.  Of course, they've never gone through such a deep freeze that lasted 6 days before either, obviously.   You can go ahead and cut off all the bad yellow fronds and also this will be a good opportunity to remove any pups it might be growing.

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I'll be honest.....I didn't think anything could kill prickly pear.  But as I drive around and see the carnage....I was clearly wrong.  They all look to be toast.  Like....all of them.  It's going to be fascinating next hunting season to be in a landscape where all the prickly pear is dead, and has to start over.
I'm also wondering how many trees are going to die.  Oaks etc. -- big natives -- should make it.  But I think a lot of ornamentals and invasives will die.  Cedars, of course, other than broken limbs from the weight of the snow, ARE FUCKING FINE.  NOTHING CAN KILL THEM.  EVIL NEVER DIES.
Some of my prickly pears look like they made it. No rhyme or reason that I can figure out as to which ones melted into jello and which didn't.
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4 minutes ago, mchookem said:

we had two giant fan palms around the water feature in our pool... they were HUGE, easily 20+ feet tall in the center...nothing but stumps now 🙁

That sucks.  We have three large, mature Mexican fan palms around our pool and they all seem to be okay.

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My parents in BFE East Texas never lost power or water cause they’re in the LA shared grid. They lose power on 70 degree April days sometimes since all lines are through dense pine trees. Sharing works. 
Where abouts? My in-laws lost power in San Augustine for a few days.
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39 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:
On 2/25/2021 at 3:57 PM, The Ace of Aces said:
My parents in BFE East Texas never lost power or water cause they’re in the LA shared grid. They lose power on 70 degree April days sometimes since all lines are through dense pine trees. Sharing works. 

Where abouts? My in-laws lost power in San Augustine for a few days.

Outside Longview  the Nac/SA issue was damage from the ice - Longview and n/e got mostly all snow and sleet and little freezing rain so no physical infrastructure issue  

 

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4 hours ago, hornian said:

Ok, I think most people have the immediate plumbing stuff addressed (ie no active leaks). What about plants?

I have a (had a?) large blue agave in my front yard. Most of the arms are mush. But the center stalk is erect.  Will it make it?

Have (had?) a big spineless prickley pear cactus that looked like it melted. Ironically, the ones with thorns look fine. Would have rathered the opposite. 
 

Have (had?) a couple of big sago palms, the fronds are all yellow. Are they goners?

 

This is the pile of Live Oak leaves that have been shed since Friday.  About 1/4 of the tree (fairly normal) and every time the breeze does anything another bundle drops.   This sumbitch is gonna fully shed this year.   That doesn’t happen all that often.  
 

the pile is about 30 feet long and 15 or so feet wide at the middle, and about 18 inches or so deep.    Now we break out the lawnmower 

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Planted 6 Xylosma tree/shrubs that was supposed to grow into a privacy hedge a year and a half ago.  They were about to take off and do the job but are now toast. Sucks...about $700 and 2 yrs down the drain.  The plants are in the Austin plant buying guide and hardy to 10F.  I guess we went below 10F.

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Most of our plants look like shit same as everyone else. I'm thinking/hoping all the trees and most of the shrubs will be okay. We had a whole row of bottle brushes that really took off this year and attracted a ton of honey bees and hummingbirds. Really hope those make it, but they look like they're toast. Planted some Texas sage a few months back and they look to be fine. Lime tree is probably fucked.

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I'm going to be planting some citrus trees in planters made of bourbon barrels chopped in half this spring. I decided I'm going to put them on casters so I can roll them inside for hard freezes in the future.

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12 hours ago, BradInATX said:

I'm going to be planting some citrus trees in planters made of bourbon barrels chopped in half this spring. I decided I'm going to put them on casters so I can roll them inside for hard freezes in the future.

We just planted some citrus trees in planters before the freeze and did exactly that. When you bring em in, be sure to put down something to catch the water coming out of the soil - we used our weather tech mats out of our cars and they they had a good quarter inch of water in em 

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16 hours ago, PantsTent said:

Planted 6 Xylosma tree/shrubs that was supposed to grow into a privacy hedge a year and a half ago.  They were about to take off and do the job but are now toast. Sucks...about $700 and 2 yrs down the drain.  The plants are in the Austin plant buying guide and hardy to 10F.  I guess we went below 10F.

My 25 year old wax leaf ligustrum hedge in the back yard ain’t looking so good and has started dropping leaves like the oaks out front since this pic was taken a week ago.

 

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I had one hackberry nearly fall on my neighbor's house over the summer.  Went ahead and took down 3 more that didn't have long.  Now my backyard just roasts in the summer but they needed to come down.

I hate hackberry trees.  

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1 minute ago, Post Oak said:

I had one hackberry nearly fall on my neighbor's house over the summer.  Went ahead and took down 3 more.  Now my backyard just roasts in the summer but the needed to come down.

I hate hackberry trees.  

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5 hours ago, Ten Bears said:

I have two 30 foot and a 15 foot Mexican Palms, a Mountain Laurel and a Kumquat tree that all look like they are dead.  We will see.  Those palms really tied the yard together. 

The Mountain Laurel is probably not dead and just has leaf burn...  The Palms are going to be hit and miss all over the place.    The best you can do is trim them back and see if any green emerges.   If not, they will rot pretty quickly and if they are close to your home you have a danger of one of them falling on to your house.  Or at the very least, becoming a home base for insects.

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Hackberries are good shade trees, but they are worthless.  They'll snap if you look at them wrong.  Those berries stain patios like a mo-fo.  and they suck up all the water around them leaving nothing for the surrounding trees except what lands on them directly.  

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6 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Landscaper service trimmed said oaks Saturday...

 

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Thank God for lawnmower with leaf catchers.   I went over my brown yard just to bag the Live Oak leaves and stopped 20 or so times to empty the bag.  Normally they lose their leaves in March into April and produce the yellow pollen crap that gets all over your car, house, etc.   I guess we get to do this early this year?   

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2 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Hackberries are good shade trees, but they are worthless.  They'll snap if you look at them wrong.  Those berries stain patios like a mo-fo.  and they suck up all the water around them leaving nothing for the surrounding trees except what lands on them directly.  

Yes they are.   And they are fricken hard to kill even if you cut them down to a stump and remove it.  It's off springs often pop up as little seedlings.  If they are in your lawn, easy to take care of with regular mowing.  But if they are in another part of the yard where you might not pay attention to that often like around a fence line, if one of those seedling takes off, it's a constant battle with some pruning sheers to knock it back down.  I used to poor gas on them to kill the seedling and that didn't work.

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