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Tom Herman is worse than Donald J Trump: Convince me I'm wrong [NO FOOTBALL]

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Football thread about only Sam standing for The Eyes is about a half-breath from becoming a Klan rally aimed at lynching our black players.
Jesus Christ

Like, how is that thread okay?

People post stuff like that on the internet or say stuff like that in real life because they feel comfortable that the people they’re talking to are okay with it.

After reading that garbage a lot of y’all are way more aggy and bammer than y’all want to believe.
3 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:


Like, how is that thread okay?

People post stuff like that on the internet or say stuff like that in real life because they feel comfortable that the people they’re talking to are okay with it.

After reading that garbage a lot of y’all are way more aggy and bammer than y’all want to believe.

As the Australians say:

 

Harsh...but fair.

11 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:


Like, how is that thread okay?

People post stuff like that on the internet or say stuff like that in real life because they feel comfortable that the people they’re talking to are okay with it.

After reading that garbage a lot of y’all are way more aggy and bammer than y’all want to believe.

It’s fucking embarrassing. For all Longhorns, but especially for the pudgy, middle-aged Uncle Ricos on that thread who clearly believe that our student athletes exist for nothing more than the amusement of self-entitled fans. It’s a pretty perfect microcosm of the snowflake right.

1 hour ago, Covri said:

Who would find a way to lose first in a game of 4-D candy land? 

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Football thread about only Sam standing for The Eyes is about a half-breath from becoming a Klan rally aimed at lynching our black players.
Jesus Christ
let me guess the same dudes that for decades showed late well after the anthem, and bailed for the tailgate or Schultzes during route 44 etc are now all U must StaNd for whols GamE to earn your SpoT guys? right?
6 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

let me guess the same dudes that for decades showed late well after the anthem, and bailed for the tailgate or Schultzes during route 44 etc are now all U must StaNd for whols GamE to earn your SpoT guys? right?

Yep.

Losers that no one cares about lecturing elite athletes about discipline and gratitude.

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

elite athletes

I thought we were talking about the UT team. 

Edited by BehoId, The Underminer!

9 minutes ago, Born to Run said:
1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:
Football thread about only Sam standing for The Eyes is about a half-breath from becoming a Klan rally aimed at lynching our black players.
Jesus Christ

let me guess the same dudes that for decades showed late well after the anthem, and bailed for the tailgate or Schultzes during route 44 etc are now all U must StaNd for whols GamE to earn your SpoT guys? right?

If only it was 44. I stayed for all 66 miserable points that day. I guess I’ve never been much for entitlement. I knew I needed to suffer as others had to be a real fan. Fuck all the those who bail early come late and whinge about “all lives.”

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

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That looks like the next Mrs.LL, inshallah.


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2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:


Like, how is that thread okay?

People post stuff like that on the internet or say stuff like that in real life because they feel comfortable that the people they’re talking to are okay with it.

After reading that garbage a lot of y’all are way more aggy and bammer than y’all want to believe.

Yeah a lot of those dumbasses belong at aggy. They act like a bunch of soft bitches while trying to call the players weak for standing up for social issues, which inherently takes strength of character. The irony is lost on them I suppose. You can criticize the product on the field without going full racist, shitheads.

 

EDIT: Thread got locked before I could say my piece there ffs

Edited by Bevo14

yeah it did. that thread is embarrassing and gross.

sort of like our football team lol 

ETA: ...and our president! to bring it full CR :D

Edited by mchookem

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That Sam/Eyes thread got racist in a hurry.

 

There’s a post in there around page 7 that has 20+ upvotes that says only Sam will get a job and be a leader and “most” of the others won’t. You can figure out who the “most” are reading the whole post.

2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Michael Jordan?

Cornyn is another one. These Republicans either use the same playbook they've used the last 30 years or now they just make up lies about people, just like Trump. But the stupid ones? are those that believe it. They are so gullible. 

10 minutes ago, Covri said:

There’s a post in there around page 7 that has 20+ upvotes that says only Sam will get a job and be a leader and “most” of the others won’t. You can figure out who the “most” are reading the whole post.

there are also remarks about the athletes 'going back to the shitholes they came from' and the problem being 'they have had no other father figure than Tom Herman' (tied to Tom's shittiness as a coach). 

we are aggy and the EoT is our Sul Ross. damn. 😟

That Sam/Eyes thread got racist in a hurry.
 

Yup. If I’m on the same side as those guys, I need to re-evaluate my position.


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This makes OU Biden.  Kind of makes sense.  Past his time and hard to watch...but still an easy choice over DJT.  Also should have won by a lot more then they did. 

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

This makes OU Biden.  Kind of makes sense.  Past his time and hard to watch...but still an easy choice over DJT.  Also should have won by a lot more then they did. 

Hey fuck you sooner faget.

 

I feel better having typed that.  What a cripple fight today.

20 minutes ago, Covri said:

There’s a post in there around page 7 that has 20+ upvotes that says only Sam will get a job and be a leader and “most” of the others won’t. You can figure out who the “most” are reading the whole post.

When people complain about "CR infecting" their forum, it seems like they usually mean "someone is criticizing me for being racist".

I didn't watch the UTEP game, did all the players stand for the eyes then? It honestly seems to me that they were more pissed about their performance unless trying to make a political statement because I doubt Sam's the only person on that team who likes the Eyes.

 

Regardless the board has been the same for such a long time that they cannot handle anyone daring to question the deep deep racist history of this country.

Yeah that thread has some yikes posts.  But any recruit swayed by that over the fact Herman is a complete fraud isn’t a recruit anyone wants anyway.  But it certainly doesn’t help.  

Not a UT grad, but am a grad from a football school so I 'get' a devoted fan base, but that thread is disturbing on multiple levels (the racism is the most egregious). The condescending attitude regarding athletic "gratitude" is also offensive.

 

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:After reading that garbage a lot of y’all are way more aggy and bammer than y’all want to believe.

Umm . . . Nope. Different universe. 
 

And just a point of clarification, a Bama fan should never place Alabama on the same level as aggy. Auburn is Alabama aggy. 

The "gratitude" thing is even more galling because it's coming from absolute nobodies who have provided the players with nothing.

I guarantee you that if Sam read that thread he'd be disgusted by the hateful pricks who are championing him the hardest. Those are his teammates. Those are his friends. And we've got a legion of pathetic racist losers screaming at them on his behalf.

The football board is just looking for something or someone to be angry at about today's loss. The players not staying for the Eyes is an easy thing since they whined about the protests and controversy over the Eyes in the summer. The thing I take issue with is people on that board putting it on the black players when all the players, black and white, left the field and Sam was the only one left. Yet they only seem to focus on the black players and use typical codewords for people of color. I told my brother previously, when Texas loses I'm obviously very unhappy but part of me is fine because our fan base really has some shitty fucking people who deserve every bit of misery that comes their way. 

Edited by mdmost

27 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

This makes OU Biden. 

uh you tryin to get people to skip the election?

3 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

uh you tryin to get people to skip the election?

Just going with the abortion theme of this thread.  

16 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

The "gratitude" thing is even more galling because it's coming from absolute nobodies who have provided the players with nothing.

I guarantee you that if Sam read that thread he'd be disgusted by the hateful pricks who are championing him the hardest. Those are his teammates. Those are his friends. And we've got a legion of pathetic racist losers screaming at them on his behalf.

Out of rep since I used most of it on you in that thread, asshole, but this is what I was thinking when I was reading that nonsense. Those are some clueless motherfuckers.

 

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Just going with the abortion theme of this thread.  

Now I'm thankful I ran out of +rep.

Edited by Bevo14

1. Losing is really, really hard. Some people take it really poorly. I’m sure alcohol is a factor as well. 

2. Seeing cherished traditions like the Eyes marginalized is a tough pill to swallow. It’s an emotional thing.

3. We’ve bought a lot of romanticized visions of what makes a winner in sports. They’re largely nonsense and might have ugly cultural biases to some of them. 

4. 2020 sucks. Everything is terrible, even the football apparently. This is tough.

5. Racists exist in all walks of life. Most racists don’t consider themselves racist.

Edited by Mole

i thought surly conservatives totally apolitical posters didn't have political circle jerks.  was that wrong?

So am I correct in my understanding that Sam stayed for the Eyes, and all the rest of the team headed up the tunnel?  Did any other players stay?  Like walk on’s?

40 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The football board is just looking for something or someone to be angry at about today's loss. The players not staying for the Eyes is an easy thing since they whined about the protests and controversy over the Eyes in the summer. The thing I take issue with is people on that board putting it on the black players when all the players, black and white, left the field and Sam was the only one left. Yet they only seem to focus on the black players and use typical codewords for people of color. I told my brother previously, when Texas loses I'm obviously very unhappy but part of me is fine because our fan base really has some shitty fucking people who deserve every bit of misery that comes their way. 

The shittiest part is the people who threaten to quit watching and posting who inevitably don't and just continue to litter the board with incessant negativity.

26 minutes ago, Mole said:

1. Losing is really, really hard. Some people take it really poorly. I’m sure alcohol is a factor as well. 

2. Seeing cherished traditions like the Eyes marginalized is a tough pill to swallow. It’s an emotional thing.

3. We’ve bought a lot of romanticized visions of what makes a winner in sports. They’re largely nonsense and might have ugly cultural biases to some of them. 

4. 2020 sucks. Everything is terrible, even the football apparently. This is tough.

5. Racists exist in all walks of life. Most racists don’t consider themselves racist.

"So, we're going to replace the Eyes.  With something better, much better."

 

15 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

So am I correct in my understanding that Sam stayed for the Eyes, and all the rest of the team headed up the tunnel?  Did any other players stay?  Like walk on’s?

All I saw was a photo with only Sam on the field with horns up. I thought he probably got held back from the locker room by a reporter.

others had a more sinister interpretation.  

Edited by washparkhorn

holy fuck there's a lot of grievance signaling in that thread

If only it was 44. I stayed for all 66 miserable points that day. I guess I’ve never been much for entitlement. I knew I needed to suffer as others had to be a real fan. Fuck all the those who bail early come late and whinge about “all lives.”
Yeah i was there, i think i was thirsty for a route 44 sonic cherry lime aid yesterday
15 hours ago, elfenix said:

holy fuck there's a lot of grievance signaling in that thread

They're all stirred up in the original thread now, too.

It's super funny.

jfc now the word 'faggot' is being tossed around as an insult. that's about as aggy as you can get. i thought we were well beyond that. holy shit. 

i know it's been talked about before, but i am truly amazed at how much 'hiding in plain site' a certain sect of posters do elsewhere on this board. talk about chickenshit. 🤣 they are literally unable to defend their positions with reason and logic, and they purposely avoid engaging with anyone that will question their position in any way.

it's so obvious! pathetic 🙄

Trump is like an Aggy coach that, every time they lose, his base rationalizes away the loss ("just needed one more quarter," "the crooked TU refs handed them the win," etc.). Even the Aggies get tired of losing, though, so that analogy doesn't really hold. For an accurate analogy, you'd have to imagine that aggy actually gave themselves license to appoint their own winner of each and every game they played, and that the entire population of aggy all agreed to that made up win/loss record. That means if aggy lost 77-0, their base would convince themselves that they actually won a close.

That's what it would take to have a D1 head football coach to be as bad at their job as Donald Trump is at president.

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

They're all stirred up in the original thread now, too.

It's super funny.

That thread is basically reset to where it was in June with the same exact conversations and anger that it had back then. The University already said players didn't have to stay and do the song but that won't stop the manbabies from crying because black players don't love the Eyes like they do. Please, please let the University come down hard on the players. It would be great to see what 1969 Longhorns football would look like in present day. 

20 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

When people complain about "CR infecting" their forum, it seems like they usually mean "someone is criticizing me for being racist".

I went and read some of that thread. Thanks for doing the right thing even when dealing with the people in that thread. If anyone needed a reminder of the racism and ignorance we are up against in this country that thread should do it.

God damn don't football the CR. That board is a half step above texags with different colors.

Well, Trump has won a national championship.
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As fanbases go I can't think of one that's more in denial over its own racism than ours. We love to think we are different from flagship schools from other Southern states because we like to think "We're Texas, we're not Southern." That's debatable and a complex question but the fact is the people who founded the university and many of not most of those who attended right up until maybe the 1970s pretty much all regarded themselves as Southerners and Texans. Leaders in this state were still naming schools after Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee right up until the '60s but we like to think that kind of crap is the sole preserve of Mississippi and Alabama.

It's not, obviously, because some of those schools still have those names and people are fighting to keep them. And no, it isn't just East Texas -- outside of El Paso and the Valley pretty much every town in Texas was founded by and for White Southerners and has the racial track record to prove it. And in the Valley, just sub in Brown for Black and it's pretty much the same deal. 

If you actually listen to Black people talk about UT and athletics, our track record is poor. There are those in our fanbase who are a little too proud of those all-White national champs in 1969. Bomani Jones was just talking about that the other day. He is a rare Black UT t-shirt fan; I am not sure how he came to his fandom, other than maybe he was forced into it by growing up in Waller, surrounded by Ags, and he being the son of two professors, was naturally appalled and thereby chose the smarter option, but anyway, he is, and he was talking about what could have been had Royal and the BMDs of his era did anything other than lag other Southern schools in the 1960s and '70s. Instead extreme conservatism reigned and recruiting Black athletes in-state has been way more complicated than it should have been ever since. Bomani was reminiscing about how jarring and bizarre it was for UT to be trumpeting James Brown as something of a novelty who would help us with the "inner city kids" as late as the mid-1990s and it was plain our 1990s teams were not exactly melanin-enhanced to competitive standard, as attested to by an entire decade of almost universally leadfooted linebacker play and the short/unathletic/wildly inaccurate White QBs of the 1980s.

Jones said to imagine if Texas had actually led the way instead of lagging behind schools like UH, SMU and even Bama, or if Royal had been able to prevent Switzer from raiding Houston, Dallas and East Texas at whim in the 1970s. Where would Texas be today if it had started banking goodwill in 1968 instead of just a few years later? 

And he also pointed out that in his lifetime, only Mack has managed to recruit Black athletes without some kind of cloud hanging around the whole enterprise. I've been following football in Texas pretty seriously since 1982, and when I think of the sheer number of Black Texans who've starred not just at instate rivals but all over America it makes me sick and sad, both. As the pre-eminent football school in this state, we should not have been losing players to Notre Dame, Miami, Colorado, Oklahoma, Ok. St, LSU at the rate we've almost always done and are continuing to do now. 

He noted that Strong was a whole 'nother ball of wax; you can't argue that race was not an issue in his time here, regardless of performance; Herman, as Strong's successor, has to deal with the fallout of being the guy who is seen to have effectively conspired to take Strong's job for at least a year before he was hired. 

Some of y'all can and will scream until your blue in the face about how Strong was the worst coach in Texas history and the numbers do back that up, however, now as then, y'all ignore that he had no QB or offensive line in his time here, and football-savvy people know that, and many thought he was not given a fair shake, Kansas loss or not. (Strong cratering at USF was a godsend to be brutally frank, because had he not done so, we'd be even more fucked with Black athletes than we already are.) 

And I think some of y'all overestimate Austin's charms in terms of a destination for young Black people. It's a White city and the largest American city to actually be losing Black population.  Outside of Mack's time here, our two biggest stars were Earl and Ricky, two Black guys whose personalities gibed with Austin in ways those of many other young Black men do not -- good ol' boy Earl with his pinch of Skoal and love of Willie Nelson, and hippie mystic Ricky, with his love of ganj and eastern religion. I've talked to quite a few Black Houstonians who've lived in Austin and they say it's, um, different than Houston. Not so much harsh, as having to deal with condescension and well-meaning idiocy from earnest liberal Austinites all desperately seeking that one Black friend. 

So now we have this Eyes of Texas deal and our fan reaction to it, all coming as the nation's race issue is heating up again and as  the program is circling the drain on the field. I am a fourth-generation Horn and I used to sing my kids to sleep with the Eyes. At the time I didn't know the skit it originated in was delivered in blackface. A few years ago I did learn that, and then I realized that the song itself did not have racist lyrics and intent, so we were probably okay. Black athletes thought and continue to think differently and since they are the stars of the show, it is up to them to decide. And tbh I have come to see their point -- it doesn't really matter if there are racist lyrics or not. The song was created in racist milieu and was almost certainly sung first in exaggerated Black dialect  -- De eyes ob Texas iz 'pon youuuu, or some such shit as that. Why should they want to join in on a relic like that? And who are we to tell them how they should feel?

This also gets to this idea of Texas as a school or a football factory. For Sam it is a school. He is living the dream of pretty much everybody on this site, in that he gets to quarterback the team of the school he has always loved. It's a great heartwarming story and I never get sick of hearing it, but it is very atypical for modern-day college football players for reasons we all know. They want a shot at the NFL and to have fun doing college shit in the meantime. (Many also esteem the value of a UT degree.) Its some balance of those factors. It's not having grown up viewing the world through Burnt Orange glasses like Sam and so many of us on here. 

23 hours ago, mdmost said:

 but part of me is fine because our fan base really has some shitty fucking people who deserve every bit of misery that comes their way. 

Now imagine you're a Baylor grad.

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