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So where do we stand?

-- three detainees shot, two killed

-- no law enforcement shot

-- therefore, shooter was gunning for law enforcement

 

Occam's Razor is dead.

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Just now, HenryJames said:

If they ever find shell casings that say 'Muledick' and 'PM Derka,' Surly will have its first mass shooter.

And if the shooter uses a .50 cal, I presume the casings will say "NowThis."

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Posted
3 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

If they ever find shell casings that say 'Muledick' and 'PM Derka,' Surly will have its first mass shooter.

Don't give Nicole any ideas

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Pretty safe to assume at this point that any time a shooter is killed rather than arrested law enforcement will fabricate evidence to make them look like a leftist.

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19 minutes ago, AbeFroman said:

And they know exactly who they are; they had them in custody. 


With ICE there is no guarantee of that.

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12 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

So somebody told an investigator on scene to write an anti-ICE message on a shell and some dipshit took the message part literally and didn't even do it on a spent shell.

It's almost funny how stupid these people are until you realize how stupid the 40% of the country who will immediately believe it are. 

This

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15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

So where do we stand?

-- three detainees shot, two killed

-- no law enforcement shot

-- therefore, shooter was gunning for law enforcement

 

Occam's Razor is dead.

Local news said 1 detainee killed, the 2nd dead was the shooter.

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5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Anyone have a notion as to what kinda rounds those are?

SKS seems the only really likely rifle using a stripper clip. So 7.62x39?  Look kinda like em, if a bit long.  For some reason, that cartridge seems to get pointy bullets more often than most you see.

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Not many modern rounds come on 5 round stripper clips. 7.62x54R, 7.62X51 (NATO), 7.62x39, and 5.56 are really the only round that you can easily get with metal stripper clips. They look a little long to be 7.62NATO, and don't have the right bottom to be the russian rimmed cartridge. 

Then again, we still haven't heard anything more about the ballistics of the shot that killed CK so I doubt they'll share any meaningful information with the public here.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, AbeFroman said:

Local news said 1 detainee killed, the 2nd dead was the shooter.

I think that's correct.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Covri said:


With ICE there is no guarantee of that.

Maybe so, but I would think they could tell the difference between the guys in handcuffs and leg shackles compared to the other guys.

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This is the playbook going forward.  I don't think the Kirk shooting was planned, but they are absolutely running with it as a Reichstag Fire event and every shooting going forward is going to be painted as a leftist.  This is going to continue to ramp up.

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Babayaga thinks it might be 8MM mauser (7.92x57), which would explain the stripper clip and longer than usual casing. But bruh wtf? Dude had to have been shooting a museum peice

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16 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Pretty safe to assume at this point that any time a shooter is killed rather than arrested law enforcement will fabricate evidence to make them look like a leftist.

And pretty safe that leftist will respond just as law enforcement wants them to.

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FBI releases new photo showing additional case etchings and the dramatic evidence of the three missing bullets used in the incident.image.png.69f58ed67e561ec11f233c47b15ec0ff.png

Patel tells agent to write Anti Ice propaganda on the bullet. Agent then says “propaganda” wouldn’t fit…
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Posted
7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Babayaga thinks it might be 8MM mauser (7.92x57), which would explain the stripper clip and longer than usual casing. But bruh wtf? Dude had to have been shooting a museum peice

Europeans produce new rifles chambered in that round for hunting and it’s decently common in Germany and environs. 

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17 minutes ago, AbeFroman said:

Local news said 1 detainee killed, the 2nd dead was the shooter.

OK, so instead of 3 detainees shot 2 killed it's 3 detainees shot 1 killed?  That doesn't change my point.  If only 2 of the 3 victims were detainees then that muddies the water.

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36 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Kash Patel edited original tweet and just reposted. WTF 

 

The fucking media falling for this obvious OBVIOUS bait is going to give me a brain bleed. The shooter who hated ICE so much he purchased a sniper rifle, not only miss once but keep shooting and killing the people he supposedly wanted to protect, only had the gumption to write "ANTI-ICE" instead of something like FUCK PIGS?

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5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Europeans produce new rifles chambered in that round for hunting and it’s decently common in Germany and environs. 

More of an exotic/historical round for the Texas shooting scene though. Everyone I know would rather have 7mag or 300WM since the ammo is much easier to source with better options

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Just now, GSU&UT said:

The fucking media falling for this obvious OBVIOUS bait is going to give me a brain bleed. The shooter who hated ICE so much he purchased a sniper rifle, not only miss once but keep shooting and killing the people he supposedly wanted to protect, only had the gumption to write "ANTI-ICE" instead of something like FUCK PIGS?

And it's already too late.  The social media environment is already running this lie.  It's not about truth, it's about what can hit the twitter-sphere the fastest after an incident.

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Just now, Captainant said:

More of an exotic/historical round for the Texas shooting scene though. Everyone I know would rather have 7mag or 300WM since the ammo is much easier to source with better options

There are all sorts of weird guns floating around and likely this was a weird person. 

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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

More of an exotic/historical round for the Texas shooting scene though. Everyone I know would rather have 7mag or 300WM since the ammo is much easier to source with better options

How many mass shooters do you hang out with?

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Posted
11 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Europeans produce new rifles chambered in that round for hunting and it’s decently common in Germany and environs. 

But stripper clip?

Also did we ever establish whether Robinson's gun was a modern Mauser or a 98 mod?  I saw a pic that maybe looked modern, but didn't preclude a "sporterized" 98.  And I saw a bunch of shit about "grandpa's gun."

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

But stripper clip?

Also did we ever establish whether Robinson's gun was a modern Mauser or a 98 mod?  I saw a pic that maybe looked modern, but didn't preclude a "sporterized" 98.  And I saw a bunch of shit about "grandpa's gun."

Sir, this is America....we don't do details.

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

But stripper clip?

Also did we ever establish whether Robinson's gun was a modern Mauser or a 98 mod?  I saw a pic that maybe looked modern, but didn't preclude a "sporterized" 98.  And I saw a bunch of shit about "grandpa's gun."

There is plenty of surplus of this stuff floating around. Plus, we don’t know for sure yet. 

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So possibilities for this mentally ill person are:

A. "Anti-ICE leftist" that should understand any attempt on ICE facilities won't slow or even remotely impact their operations or

B. "Anti-ICE righty" that is pissed they are taking so long to deport and so wants to murder "them"

C. European that hates ice in his drink

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Posted

Hey Johnson, this is Patel.

Yeah, boss? What's up?

I need you to write an anti-ICE message on one of those bullet casings.

Really? Well, ok, I guess.

Good man. Nothing fancy. Just anti-ICE, ok?

Got it. No problem.

Hey Johnson, what was your score on the IQ test again?

Sixty two, boss! Well above average for new ICE hires!

Ok, well, don't let me down.

You can count on me, sir!

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Posted
8 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

So possibilities for this mentally ill person are:

A. "Anti-ICE leftist" that should understand any attempt on ICE facilities won't slow or even remotely impact their operations or

B. "Anti-ICE righty" that is pissed they are taking so long to deport and so wants to murder "them"

C. European that hates ice in his drink

D. Pro Global Warming radical

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

How many mass shooters do you hang out with?

I wouldn't say I hang out with Icono lol. But at the range, the only time you see 8MM Mauser is when it's being shot by a Wehraboo

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