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6 hours ago, crash_davis said:

I think a stacked QB room with Arch Manning and true freshman showing out makes him think about where else he could go w/out as much competition. Especially with as much as he's visited Auburn.

Or he might think that if Arch took a redshirt year to better understand the offense, build his strength,

and get used to the jump up in competition, that might be the answer to getting better prepared for the draft one day. Arch will be our starting QB for probably 2 years so that might be the winning formula for him as well.

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On 4/20/2024 at 8:48 PM, mr. sunshine said:

Hint: I'm the lighter skinned fellow. 60 now but would gladly smoke all your sorry asses. Easier to smoke than the joint I'm currently working on. Pussies

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Surely some of y'all remember Eugene Seale. He was a "scab" for the Oilers during the NFL strike and hung around when the so-called professionals returned and was an All Pro special teams player. Before that he got a scholarship offer when Bill Yeoman was at UH but it got pulled and he went to Lamar. Coincidentally UH had scheduled Lamar for a couple of non conference games and Eugene set a record with 40+ solo tackles in those two games. So suck it Bill Yeoman's ghost and fuck Cougar High as always

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On 4/20/2024 at 8:48 PM, mr. sunshine said:

Hint: I'm the lighter skinned fellow. 60 now but would gladly smoke all your sorry asses. Easier to smoke than the joint I'm currently working on. Pussies

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Well, at least we now know where you got your handle.

 

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Starzyk recently competed at the 2024 Underclassman Challenge and is the best combo k/p in the country. He finished with 110.83 points in punting, 114.08 points on kick offs, and 21 points on field goals. Starzyk also showed very well during the competitions. He is a D1 scholarship player. At Kohl's National Scholarship Camp in July of 2023 he showed great improvement in punting and kicking. His punt score of 108.74 points, kick-off score of 109.82 points, and field goal score of 31 were all at the Power Five level. We are so excited for Starzyk's future! At the March Ranking Event, he graded out in the top 10 as both a kicker and punter. His kick-offs and punt distances were different compared to the other campers on the windy day. He was able to kick multiple 80 yard kick-offs. Starzyk is a very talented combo kicker/punter. At the Texas Showcase in May of 2022 he had a perfect charting of field goals at the event with 11 points made out of 11 and hit multiple 69+ yard kickoffs with over 3.8 seconds of hang time. His punting was also at the elite level with a 50-yard, 4.78 second hang time hit during the charting portion of camp. Starzyk is one of the most talented specialists in the 2025 class and we expect big things from him in the upcoming year because he has the talent required to be a dominant combo specialist. Starzyk impressed the coaches with his power and consistency during the 2021 Kohl’s Texas Winter Showcase. He scored 9 points during the field goal charting, hit a big ball on kickoffs of 66 yards with a 3.61 second hang time and had several punts over 40+ yards.

 

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17 hours ago, tokamak said:

So basically we and aggy both told the kid to his face that he’s plan B. Good for him if he’s patient, but I think I’d be about ready to just move on if I were him. 

I’ll be curious to see what happens. I don’t feel Arch is who’s gonna affect this class’s QB.  In reality, Arch will be our starter for the 2025 season (and for some of this year when Quinn has his inevitable few games) and then he’ll be out (if it all plays out the best way it can).  I think this QB will come down to how Sark sees Owens.  He looked great in his minutes during the spring game and I think the dude is gonna be a gamer.  Will KJ stick and come battle with Owens for that spot? Or go somewhere he’ll have a clear path? 

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4 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

I’ll be curious to see what happens. I don’t feel Arch is who’s gonna affect this class’s QB.  In reality, Arch will be our starter for the 2025 season (and for some of this year when Quinn has his inevitable few games) and then he’ll be out (if it all plays out the best way it can).  I think this QB will come down to how Sark sees Owens.  He looked great in his minutes during the spring game and I think the dude is gonna be a gamer.  Will KJ stick and come battle with Owens for that spot? Or go somewhere he’ll have a clear path? 

We'll be in a very interesting position for 2026 if Arch plays well and leaves after '25. The options would be inexperienced RS-SO Owens, RS-FR Lacey, and a true freshman. Wouldn't surprise me to see us go out and get a 1-year portal rental for that year unless Owens or Lacey are well ahead of schedule. A program like Texas will be expected to reload every year in the NIL/portal era. Sark isn't going to waste a year with an underdeveloped QB throwing to the likes of Ryan Wingo and (fingers crossed) Dakorien Moore.

I don't think Owens will or should worry Lacey. That's about as clear a path as he'll get at any major program.

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7 minutes ago, tokamak said:

We'll be in a very interesting position for 2026 if Arch plays well and leaves after '25. The options would be inexperienced RS-SO Owens, RS-FR Lacey, and a true freshman. Wouldn't surprise me to see us go out and get a 1-year portal rental for that year unless Owens or Lacey are well ahead of schedule. A program like Texas will be expected to reload every year in the NIL/portal era. Sark isn't going to waste a year with an underdeveloped QB throwing to the likes of Ryan Wingo and (fingers crossed) Dakorien Moore.

I don't think Owens will or should worry Lacey. That's about as clear a path as he'll get at any major program.

If either is ready, he'll just play them. At some point you play inexperienced talent.

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13 minutes ago, tokamak said:

We'll be in a very interesting position for 2026 if Arch plays well and leaves after '25. The options would be inexperienced RS-SO Owens, RS-FR Lacey, and a true freshman. Wouldn't surprise me to see us go out and get a 1-year portal rental for that year unless Owens or Lacey are well ahead of schedule. A program like Texas will be expected to reload every year in the NIL/portal era. Sark isn't going to waste a year with an underdeveloped QB throwing to the likes of Ryan Wingo and (fingers crossed) Dakorien Moore.

I don't think Owens will or should worry Lacey. That's about as clear a path as he'll get at any major program.

Show me a Manning who has left college after 1 year of CFB.  

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45 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

I’ll be curious to see what happens. I don’t feel Arch is who’s gonna affect this class’s QB.  In reality, Arch will be our starter for the 2025 season (and for some of this year when Quinn has his inevitable few games) and then he’ll be out (if it all plays out the best way it can).  I think this QB will come down to how Sark sees Owens.  He looked great in his minutes during the spring game and I think the dude is gonna be a gamer.  Will KJ stick and come battle with Owens for that spot? Or go somewhere he’ll have a clear path? 

Ehhh. The Mannings have been extremely patient with Arch, and I expect that will continue with his NFL decision. It’s far from a given Arch leaves after one year of starting, and Lacey seems to be aware of that.

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What’s the deal with the Coleman brothers? It sounds like we lead for both but neither are ranked. One is a tackle and one is a guard? Is one better than the other? If you put one of their hands in cold water would the other twin feel it? 

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10 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

What’s the deal with the Coleman brothers? It sounds like we lead for both but neither are ranked. One is a tackle and one is a guard? Is one better than the other? If you put one of their hands in cold water would the other twin feel it? 

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16 hours ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

In reality, Arch will be our starter for the 2025 season (and for some of this year when Quinn has his inevitable few games) and then he’ll be out X (if it all plays out the best way it can).  I think this QB will come down to how Sark sees Owens.  

 

16 hours ago, tokamak said:

We'll be in a very interesting position for 2026 if Arch plays well and leaves after '25. X
The options would be inexperienced RS-SO Owens, RS-FR Lacey, and a true freshman. Wouldn't surprise me to see us go out and get a 1-year portal rental for that year unless Owens or Lacey are well ahead of schedule.

 

16 hours ago, Tree Fidy said:

Show me a Manning who has left college after 1 year of CFB.  ✅

Maybe I have listened to Bobby Burton & Gerry repeat it about 30 times, but the Manning family, and statistics, show that a QB with 25 or more starts is much more likely to experience success in the NFL than a QB with fewer starts than that.

It is a big reason that Quinn is returning for a third year and unless Arch starts 12+ games this year, there is virtually zero chance that Arch goes pro after next year (2025), no matter how great his season is. 

The Mannings are focused on that 2nd, 3rd, and maybe 4th NFL contract. Leaving after one starting season is not part of any plan. 

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2 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

 

Maybe I have listened to Bobby Burton & Gerry repeat it about 30 times, but the Manning family, and statistics, show that a QB with 25 or more starts is much more likely to experience success in the NFL than a QB with fewer starts than that.

It is a big reason that Quinn is returning for a third year and unless Arch starts 12+ games this year, there is virtually zero chance that Arch goes pro after next year (2025), no matter how great his season is. 

The Mannings are focused on that 2nd, 3rd, and maybe 4th NFL contract. Leaving after one starting season is not part of any plan. 

I hope you’re right. 
 

I just can’t imagine if he has a big year in 25-26 and is a projected top 10 pick (he will be if he has any type of big year) that he turns that down to come back to Texas for another year.  
 

But again.  I hope you’re right.  

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2 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

 

Maybe I have listened to Bobby Burton & Gerry repeat it about 30 times, but the Manning family, and statistics, show that a QB with 25 or more starts is much more likely to experience success in the NFL than a QB with fewer starts than that.

It is a big reason that Quinn is returning for a third year and unless Arch starts 12+ games this year, there is virtually zero chance that Arch goes pro after next year (2025), no matter how great his season is. 

The Mannings are focused on that 2nd, 3rd, and maybe 4th NFL contract. Leaving after one starting season is not part of any plan. 

Gotta disagree with you on Ewers he came back because of the consistency or lack thereof last season. Also, the qb draft class next year much weaker. 

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1 hour ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

I hope you’re right. 
 

I just can’t imagine if he has a big year in 25-26 and is a projected top 10 pick (he will be if he has any type of big year) that he turns that down to come back to Texas for another year.  
 

But again.  I hope you’re right.  

Peyton and Eli did exactly that and pre NIL earnings too. The odds of him leaving after 1 year are less than 1%. 

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2 hours ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

I hope you’re right. 
 

I just can’t imagine if he has a big year in 25-26 and is a projected top 10 pick (he will be if he has any type of big year) that he turns that down to come back to Texas for another year.  
 

But again.  I hope you’re right.  

VY wished that he had. He only left early because he thought his hometown team was going to draft him. 

Now that you can make great money playing college ball, why rush into the NFL? The life of a good college player is better than that of an NFL player. 

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10 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Now that you can make great money playing college ball, why rush into the NFL? The life of a good college player is better than that of an NFL player. 

got to get to that second contract as early as possible.

 

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21 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

If Arch Manning plays one year, wins a Heisman, a national title, and has impeccable statistics he's going to leave. 

surely no one is going to act like that wouldn't be incredible.

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dude starts for 1 year, wins a national championship, is in a bunch of national commercials, then goes top 5 in the draft? that's the dream

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The thing to remember about how Gerry and Bobby look at this stuff is that they both lean on a lot of history and patterns therein. That plus putting in a ton of work and being really well-connected makes them right a whole fucking lot compared to everyone else.

However, in this instance, I don't find a lot of value in what prior generations of a family opted to do. It's a different era for all of us, the Mannings included. I view the possibility of Manning transferring before this window closes as a higher percentage chance than the guy staying to play a second year if he lights up the first season. I don't view either outcome as a double digit percentage possibility, nonetheless. 

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5 hours ago, NoName said:

got to get to that second contract as early as possible.

 

JFC, man. This does not apply to QBs at all. Good QBs regularly play into the late thirties these days, so rushing to the second contract doesn’t matter. 
 

If anything, it’s the opposite for QBs. They get rushed into playing in the NFL, so having an extra year of playing and developing in college helps them be ready to succeed and maximize their earnings. 

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