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11 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

For context, it’s cuz he’s a proud Magat

Oh give me a break, that’s it?
 

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I stand by my original statement. 
 

Unless I’m wrong he was well liked by his teammates despite all the hype and being the highest paid player. I never heard any differently. That should be good enough for these so called “fans” of our football team. 
 

Good luck to Quinn. Miami looks like a good landing spot for him. Zach Wilson is ahead of him and he can’t inspire much confidence in McDaniel. 
 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Laguna said:

Jeez. Sound like a bunch of fucking psycho scumbags.
 

Guess people can really just post whatever they want on a University board. 

Do you think the University of Texas owns Surly or something

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

Do you think the University of Texas owns Surly or something

No. It doesn’t represent the University but it is representative of it. The good, the bad, the retarded, the looney tunes. I guess might as well include it all.

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1 hour ago, Laguna said:

No. It doesn’t represent the University but it is representative of it. The good, the bad, the retarded, the looney tunes. I guess might as well include it all.

This probably isn't the right place for you. IT, Hornfans, or Orangebloods would likely be more your flavor.

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11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Well in another sub on this board you have very normal brained people hoping that a black guy deals him a career ending injury. Cause reasons or something. 

 

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12 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Well in another sub on this board you have very normal brained people hoping that a black guy deals him a career ending injury. Cause reasons or something. 

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Posted
13 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

This is a perfect addition to the Quinn Ewers thread to show that nothing ever changes around here.

Here is my post I cited from the Sam Ehlinger 2018 thread page 35 that I posted an hour after Sam led the win over OU. I had been collecting a tiny bit of the Sam vitriol from the thread and shared it after the game. I cited all the posters for each comment and I have to admit that some of them are pretty funny! You can see the usual suspects below, haha.  

Apparently, I had apolgized to you, @Derka, but had retracted my apology for the below comments, which is funny.  

And @closetojumping, you seem to not have been too big a fan of Sam. Just saying. And @6th Street, before the game, you wanted to switch us to switch to Kyler and OU takes Sam.  

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I went back and pulled these comments from this thread. All of these comments were posted here AFTER our first victory at K-State since 2002. I'll let the words speak for themselves. Moving forward, my greatest hope is that we support our players, cause they're really awesome. 

 

"Not at all. I just prefer to have a different type of QB than what Sam has to offer." T’Boo Ted Marshall

"...in other words we wouldn't be surprised if blitz packages and disguised coverages lead sam to turning the ball over, or if OU decides to blitz on every single 3rd down and 4+ because sam has proven that he can't hit an open wr even when he has a clean pocket. we won't be surprised if accounting for 6 total offensive points vs OU results in a blowout loss." Goo Punch

"Either they teach Sam how to throw a football or find someone who does. Beck gets paid $800k to coach our QBs." 6th Street

"That first long pass where the WR was all alone and Sam missed him by a mile, I think that there’s no fixing that." XYZ

"I don’t think his football IQ will improve much…" closetojumping

"I don’t think Ehlinger is good enough to merit the other guys not pushing him or not passing him. ...unless Mehlinger just totally shuts it down by being a part of a 12-2 season here this year or something." closetojumping 

"Outside of mocking Lolinger…" closetojumping

"He is inaccurate, that is fact. Completion % be damned. Watch the game with your eyes." Fico

"Half of his completed passes are shit throws that if he was accurate would go for considerably more yardage." Fico

"That is not opinion, it’s fact." Fico

To which Viper responded...

"…Yeah, I'm really not sure why people can't agree with this."

"We would have a much better shot at winning this Sat if we could trade QBs with OU" 6th Street (My personal favorite) 

"Sam could learn a thing or two from Case McCoy on how to hit an open WR." 6th Street (this one is also pretty amazing) 

"...we're still allowed to point out that he hasn't exactly been inspiring a lot of confidence in his play heading into the ou game." Goo Punch

"…because we're winning none of his obvious flaws matter or are allowed to be discussed. because we're winning we all have to sit around slurping our mediocre qb, right?Goo Punch (Goo Punch, I retract my apology)

I find it kind of sad that you both saved posts from 7 years ago and also feel some sort of need to recall them, but I'll humor you due to your effort.

Ehlinger is the most overrated player to have ever taken a snap at Texas. He was a fine concussed battering ram for Tom Herman when there was a need for that, but you and others stan for him as though he's some sort of deity. He had an okay record in college for a guy with the accuracy of WW2 bomber scope and he's managed to hang on as a fringe guy in the NFL. We'll see him glomming on to the Texas media machine for a paycheck soon enough and idiots like you can jack off to his image regularly when that happens. So you have that going for you. Or maybe he'll go sell real estate with other former spare QBs like Chance Mock and Case McCoy, I don't know.

When you clowns attempt to reference posts about Ehlinger being a mediocrity as some sort of "receipt", I laugh. Like not metaphorically, but literally. It's one of the things a few of you cling to that you think bothers me in some way, and I find it predictable but sadly entertaining, like watching reruns of Cheers. The guy was okay in college. That anyone finds his college performance as some sort of validation for their fandom speaks to the reality that there is always a dumbest person on a thread or a board. The world needs the simpleton, God love'em. 

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Posted
13 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Holy shit.  OK, buddy.  I honestly wish [nothing but] the best for you.  

Are you secretly quoting this lady?


…that may be taking this whole thing a bit too far!

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1 minute ago, MuellerHorn said:

Ummm, what? 

Squints, Heard, Swoopes... There are multiple more overrated QBs in the past 15 years, let alone players, to have ever taken a snap at Texas. 

Not stanning for Ehlinger as some phenom, but he was a very productive player for us during what otherwise could have been another horrendously shitty couple of years at Texas during an already horrible stretch historically for the program.

Maybe we have different definitions of the word "overrated". Who is even rating the three guys you referenced? I'm talking about players that are beloved or liked by the masses for perceived performance. Anyone talking up those three for any reason besides one game against ND for Swoopes or a couple of early season ethereal tilts in like 2015 for Heard is out of their fucking mind and not worth having discussion. I don't even recall anyone ever speaking about Gilbert's time at Texas positively.

You can't swing a dead cat around Texas fans without someone telling you what a great QB Sam Mehlinger was/is. To me, this is night and day. I am not saying I Am Sam sucked, far from it. 

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He was overrated considering how much adoration he received.  We all knew Swoopes, Heard, etc. were limited and failed early and often....paving a long road of expectations and hope.  Sam performed marginally better and everyone went full aggy-savior, putting this guy on a pedestal way above his actual performance.  

 

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7 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

He was overrated considering how much adoration he received.  We all knew Swoopes, Heard, etc. were limited and failed early and often....paving a long road of expectations and hope.  Sam performed marginally better and everyone went full aggy-savior, putting this guy on a pedestal way above his actual performance.  

 

Sam's biggest issues were the teams around him weren't very good. Objectively he was a damn good QB for us...

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe we have different definitions of the word "overrated". Who is even rating the three guys you referenced? I'm talking about players that are beloved or liked by the masses for perceived performance. Anyone talking up those three for any reason besides one game against ND for Swoopes or a couple of early season ethereal tilts in like 2015 for Heard is out of their fucking mind and not worth having discussion. I don't even recall anyone ever speaking about Gilbert's time at Texas positively.

You can't swing a dead cat around Texas fans without someone telling you what a great QB Sam Mehlinger was/is. To me, this is night and day. I am not saying I Am Sam sucked, far from it. 

This makes sense. I was mainly talking about their recruiting ranking/perceived impact they would have vs. the actual results they generated at Texas. I agree with the premise that Sam's production certainly outweighed his skill, but he was a perfectly fine QB at Texas. Had he had a better roster and coaching staff around him, Texas would have had some serious potential. 

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Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Ehlinger is the most overrated player to have ever taken a snap at Texas.

The correct answer is Chris Simms. Arrived in a limo, had repeated position battles with a JAG, never even had an all conference selection. Fumbled some of the most talented rosters in Texas history. Pretty straightforward. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Mr. Drummond said:

Also, he is a westlake/lake travis guy, whichever one he was, (i don't care enough to know which is which).     And for some reason, that seems to matter to some here.

Just TreatyOak and Longhorn94. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Laguna said:

The correct answer is Chris Simms. Arrived in a limo, had repeated position battles with a JAG, never even had an all conference selection. Fumbled some of the most talented rosters in Texas history. Pretty straightforward. 

I don't think you understand what overrated means in this context.

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33 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

That anyone finds his college performance as some sort of validation for their fandom speaks to the reality that there is always a dumbest person on a thread or a board.

 

Nope not me nope don't have one no no no

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7 minutes ago, Laguna said:

The correct answer is Chris Simms. Arrived in a limo, had repeated position battles with a JAG, never even had an all conference selection. Fumbled some of the most talented rosters in Texas history. Pretty straightforward. 

I negged you not because you have a dumb fucking take, which you do, but because you're new here and seem to be under the impression that there aren't consequences for being voluminous and just spraying the board with stupid shit. Rep is sadly our only currency, but it can be used to ultimately crowdsource out early new poster stupidity. 

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6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm not sure there's a single player who gets run over more from our own fanbase, undeservedly, than Chris Simms. The guy was top 10 in most statistical UT categories in about two cobbled together years of QBing. More than that, people on campus and off, during college and after, have treated the guy like dogshit, personally. I don't blame the guy for having nothing to do with the University of Texas. And I say all that as a Major guy during the time. The guy went 26-6 as a starter, for fuck's sake. 

I watch PFT from time to time, and enjoy Simms and his takes. He still gives love to Longhorn players and will throw out a hook em when they do well.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I find it kind of sad that you both saved posts from 7 years ago and also feel some sort of need to recall them, but I'll humor you due to your effort.

Ehlinger is the most overrated player to have ever taken a snap at Texas. He was a fine concussed battering ram for Tom Herman when there was a need for that, but you and others stan for him as though he's some sort of deity. He had an okay record in college for a guy with the accuracy of WW2 bomber scope and he's managed to hang on as a fringe guy in the NFL. We'll see him glomming on to the Texas media machine for a paycheck soon enough and idiots like you can jack off to his image regularly when that happens. So you have that going for you. Or maybe he'll go sell real estate with other former spare QBs like Chance Mock and Case McCoy, I don't know.

When you clowns attempt to reference posts about Ehlinger being a mediocrity as some sort of "receipt", I laugh. Like not metaphorically, but literally. It's one of the things a few of you cling to that you think bothers me in some way, and I find it predictable but sadly entertaining, like watching reruns of Cheers. The guy was okay in college. That anyone finds his college performance as some sort of validation for their fandom speaks to the reality that there is always a dumbest person on a thread or a board. The world needs the simpleton, God love'em. 

Sam was pretty great if you think that a QB waiting until a target is standing still in a wide open area before throwing the ball is how QBs should play.

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah, because he's not a piece of shit. He loved his teammates, and he liked Austin, but he hasn't been back willingly and hasn't affiliated himself with Texas at all. For a reason.

CTJ and I have worked with a woman who dated Simms for awhile in college. She is a foreigner, and doesn't give any fucks about football, which was a big appeal for Simms. She tells some pretty horrific stories about how he was treated on campus. Prank phone calls at all hours, death threats after bad games, being jeered and heckled when he was on campus by other students. Imagine being Chris Simms, looking like he looked, and basically locking yourself in your apartment with a woman who didn't understand or give a fuck about football as a refuge from the shit he received. 

And it's pretty obvious a lot of those kids heckled him have moved onto message boards.

He's talked about it on his show. People telling him that his dad got him in at Texas. He said "I'm not even sure my dad knows where I went to college. He didn't care at all. It wasn't my dad on the phone to Mack Brown bitching about my playing time".

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Ehlinger’s game-ending pick in OT vs Oklahoma state his freshman year is still the worst throw I have ever seen a QB make given the circumstance. 

it's rare that you post something that i 100% earnestly agree with but today is that day.

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21 hours ago, Derka said:

whenever i call someone out for being wrong i bring the receipts and respond to them directly. if you’re going to call me out, then:

a)say my name

and

b)bring some actual receipts. 

you people keep making up shit that’s never happened to further your own fanatical takes, which is why you literally are never able to actually cite or quote anyone saying anything that you’ve accused them of. 

so just to recap: you guys spaz out over my opiniones, you take zero accountability when you’re proven wrong, you claim to hate me and my takes and how i derail the threads and make them all about me, but then you insist on calling me out over and over, making it about me, claiming that i was wrong when i said (insert some shit that i’ve literally never said before that you just made up), and then when i actually use receipts and quoted posts to call you out, you once again melt down and beg for me to be banned.

but im the problem poster, right? lol y’all are wild.

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59 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I find it kind of sad that you both saved posts from 7 years ago and also feel some sort of need to recall them, but I'll humor you due to your effort.

Ehlinger is the most overrated player to have ever taken a snap at Texas. He was a fine concussed battering ram for Tom Herman when there was a need for that, but you and others stan for him as though he's some sort of deity. He had an okay record in college for a guy with the accuracy of WW2 bomber scope and he's managed to hang on as a fringe guy in the NFL. We'll see him glomming on to the Texas media machine for a paycheck soon enough and idiots like you can jack off to his image regularly when that happens. So you have that going for you. Or maybe he'll go sell real estate with other former spare QBs like Chance Mock and Case McCoy, I don't know.

When you clowns attempt to reference posts about Ehlinger being a mediocrity as some sort of "receipt", I laugh. Like not metaphorically, but literally. It's one of the things a few of you cling to that you think bothers me in some way, and I find it predictable but sadly entertaining, like watching reruns of Cheers. The guy was okay in college. That anyone finds his college performance as some sort of validation for their fandom speaks to the reality that there is always a dumbest person on a thread or a board. The world needs the simpleton, God love'em. 

I didn't "save" any posts. I just went to the Sam Ehlinger thread and pulled it. No big deal. 

I'll let you guys handle the finer points of playing QB. Just showing how people here trashed Sam days before he played one of the greatest games by a Texas QB against OU. And yes, I am proudly hopelessly biased. I supported Ewers and will support Manning. Hope Sam lands on a team. 

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Just now, TreatyOak said:

I didn't "save" any posts. I just went to the Sam Ehlinger thread and pulled it. No big deal. 

I'll let you guys handle the finer points of playing QB. Just showing how people here trashed Sam days before he played one of the greatest games by a Texas QB against OU. And yes, I am proudly hopelessly biased. I supported Ewers and will support Manning. Hope Sam lands on a team. 

You don't have to feign giving a shit about players that aren't from Westlake. Anyone who has been on this site for any period of time knows that you're a Westlake stan first and foremost and anything else, including Texas football, is an afterthought. 

Just one other thing, though. The next time you're masturbating on a Zoom call with Sam, will you do the rest of us a favor and ask him if Texas is back?

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Posted
1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

Ummm, what? 

Squints, Heard, Swoopes... There are multiple more overrated QBs in the past 15 years, let alone players, to have ever taken a snap at Texas. 

I'm not advocating for Ehlinger as some phenom, but he was a very productive player for us during what otherwise could have been another horrendously shitty couple of years at Texas during an already horrible stretch historically for the program. The dude willed us to victory despite a myopic egomaniac as his HC, glaring other roster inefficiencies, and has only gotten better in the NFL (although, he did just get cut). Sure, many here have an inflated opinion of his skillset at Texas, but the dude should be celebrated for many reasons.

He turned down two offers to be on 53 man rosters to sign to Denver's practice squad

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52 minutes ago, Mr. Drummond said:

Also, he is a westlake/lake travis guy, whichever one he was, (i don't care enough to know which is which).     And for some reason, that seems to matter to some here.

I think it was more that he was a local kid who'd been a Texas fan since childhood who came in on the tail-end of some historically bad QB play 

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5 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

 

The Westlake honks are not quite a cult, but they do love them some Westlake boys and have a hard time seeing any flaws with those red and blue colored glasses. It would be like me demanding that Charlie Wright getting more playing time just because he went to AHS. 

I was a Major truther back in the day and even I never hated Simms. He was a solid QB and he played hard. Plus he played for Texas. I always told people that even if I preferred Major as QB1, that doesn't mean that I won't support the guy actually taking snaps. I swear there were Texas fans who wanted us to lose just so they could be right about Simms. Besides, my issue was with Brown who actually made the decision. The hate for him never made sense - it always seemed like it was based on the perception that he had everything handed to him because of who his dad was. Which is disconcertingly similar to how Aggies and Sooners talk about Manning these days. 

Weird how history seems to keep repeating itself. 

They're a cult. 

 

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53 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm not sure there's a single player who gets run over more from our own fanbase, undeservedly, than Chris Simms. The guy was top 10 in most statistical UT categories in about two cobbled together years of QBing. More than that, people on campus and off, during college and after, have treated the guy like dogshit, personally. I don't blame the guy for having nothing to do with the University of Texas. And I say all that as a Major guy during the time. The guy went 26-6 as a starter, for fuck's sake. 

Chris Simms was better at playing QB than guys like Laguna are at literally anything. 

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10 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I was a Major truther back in the day and even I never hated Simms. He was a solid QB and he played hard. Plus he played for Texas. I always told people that even if I preferred Major as QB1, that doesn't mean that I won't support the guy actually taking snaps. I swear there were Texas fans who wanted us to lose just so they could be right about Simms. Besides, my issue was with Brown who actually made the decision. The hate for him never made sense - it always seemed like it was based on the perception that he had everything handed to him because of who his dad was. Which is disconcertingly similar to how Aggies and Sooners talk about Manning these days. 

Weird how history seems to keep repeating itself. 

"Maybe" - if he doesn't shit the bed against CU in the championship and Texas goes to the MNC, he's idolized.  Then Major orchestrates a hell of a comeback, then balls out again in the bowl game and his reputation is set.

It was the bowl game at the Cotton Bowl when AR shredded his knees that things changed.  He rehabbed all summer, so Simms got the nod to practice with the 1st team and why Simms was the started going into his season.  

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21 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

I've developed the opinion over time that it would be great to see Texas bring Simms back for a game on the sidelines with some sort of happy hat tip to the guy. I know that's problematic since half the stadium is likely a bunch of idiots who might boo him and there's really no way he belongs in the Texas HOF or whatever it's called. Maybe it would just be great if Sarkisian invited him to come down for a practice and an interview or something. It's just always bothered me that idiots ruined his relationship with his alma mater. His signing with Texas made a giant fucking difference for the program from a national POV early in Mack Brown's tenure. 

I never hated Simms.  I thought he and Applewhite were both average to slightly above average QBs.  I would have started Simms also after Major wrecked his knee.  Simms was one tough bastard and his teammates loved him, so I did respect him.  He was not a championship level QB.  But we had other much bigger problems on those teams.  Greg Davis.  A joke of an OL coach who squandered all sorts of elite talent.  A DC (Reese) who was really good against the option (that we maybe faced every other year) and standard offenses but coached against the spread and especially the Air Raid like a retard.

The Simms haters were disgraceful.  The Simms lovers were idiots.  His arm was nowhere near elite like all the experts in our fanbase claimed.  He just threw every pass as hard as he could.  Kind of a bizarro Ewers.  Simms has as many passing TDs as I do against OU.

I'd take Ehlinger all day over Simms or Applewhite but not sure he is what you need to win a championship.  I kind of rate him about like Quinn.  Make me choose, and I would take Ehlinger because he could play through an injury much better than Quinn.

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Just now, BabaYaga said:

"Maybe" - if he doesn't shit the bed against CU in the championship and Texas goes to the MNC, he's idolized.  Then Major orchestrates a hell of a comeback, then balls out again in the bowl game and his reputation is set.

It was the bowl game at the Cotton Bowl when AR shredded his knees that things changed.  He rehabbed all summer, so Simms got the nod to practice with the 1st team and why Simms was the started going into his season.  

Yeah, the 2001 championship game was an interesting moment. Simms completely shitting the bed followed up Major orchestrating a near comeback was a vindication but it ultimately meant nothing. I would rather have been wrong and we win than be right and we lose. 

I will say that to this day, the second half of that game was one of the best "part of the crowd" experiences of my life. We were a slow moving wave of burnt orange that surged forward about 8 rows towards the field. Everyone was screaming, bouncing off each other, reacting to each play en masse. It felt electric. Sucks that we lost, but still a good memory. 

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1 minute ago, Park Gothic said:

Yeah, the 2001 championship game was an interesting moment. Simms completely shitting the bed followed up Major orchestrating a near comeback was a vindication but it ultimately meant nothing. I would rather have been wrong and we win than be right and we lose. 

I will say that to this day, the second half of that game was one of the best "part of the crowd" experiences of my life. We were a slow moving wave of burnt orange that surged forward about 8 rows towards the field. Everyone was screaming, bouncing off each other, reacting to each play en masse. It felt electric. Sucks that we lost, but still a good memory. 

Nothing about that night was good.

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36 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

I've developed the opinion over time that it would be great to see Texas bring Simms back for a game on the sidelines with some sort of happy hat tip to the guy. I know that's problematic since half the stadium is likely a bunch of idiots who might boo him and there's really no way he belongs in the Texas HOF or whatever it's called. Maybe it would just be great if Sarkisian invited him to come down for a practice and an interview or something. It's just always bothered me that idiots ruined his relationship with his alma mater. His signing with Texas made a giant fucking difference for the program from a national POV early in Mack Brown's tenure. 

His treatment is as shameful as anything our fans have ever done. That would have been repeated with Quinn if there was (s)crappy underdog 8-4 type he took over for instead of Card and Thompson. 

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Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Who was rating these guys as QBs?

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Heard was a top-100 recruit as a dual-threat QB. Swoopes started out higher before being re-ranked and reclassified to an athlete. Gilbert was QB3 (after Barkley and Shepard) in his class. Sam outperformed all of them combined at Texas. However, Heard was the real non-factor in his career. At least we'll have Gilbert at Nebraska and Swoopes' 18-wheeler as good memories during a horrible time for Texas football.

Anyways, Sam is a Longhorn legend: fourth-most all-time in wins, three bowl wins, and plenty of other accolades. 

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