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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That right there is why CNN is bullshit.

The money quote, though:  

Asked if this could be grounds for a legal challenge or recusal, Gillers said, “Absolutely not. This does not come anywhere near the kind of proof required for recusal.”

For reference, Stephen Gillers has been the foremost authority on legal and judicial ethics in the US for at least 30 years.


trump has a 70+ year history of getting out of everything, smelling like a rose 

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

All he’s asking is for people to be outside in Miami in mid June for 7 hours. 


The real lockdown will be multiple ems crews responding to gravy seals falling over due to heat stress 

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Posted
Just now, tx 3 putt said:


trump has a 70+ year history of getting out of everything, smelling like a rose 

He smells like dogshit most of the time, and cheese.

He's also never been criminally indicted until recently.  It's a whole new world of shit for him.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

He smells like dogshit most of the time, and cheese.

He's also never been criminally indicted until recently.  It's a whole new world of shit for him.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

The DC court order only compelled the production of the evidence - his testimony and notes. Admissibility is a totally different determination and is within the purview of the trial court. 

While that is technically true, a court of competent jurisdiction has ruled that the attorney-client privilege is vitiated and that ruling was duly appealed, and cert denied.  I don't think privilege can be a valid ground for inadmissibility anymore.

16 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

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He's also gotten his shit pushed in judicially non-stop since January 21, 2021.

Fresh outta the Clink - AR15.COM

Big time, bro.

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Posted
1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:


Once in office, he can pardon himself 

Once in office he can tell DOJ to drop the charge - if pending.  I doubt a self pardon is doable. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

Once in office he can tell DOJ to drop the charge - if pending.  I doubt a self pardon is doable. 

????

Who do you think is going to stop him?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Once in office he can tell DOJ to drop the charge - if pending.  I doubt a self pardon is doable. 


Except for impeachment, his pardon power is limitless 

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It doesn’t matter how he ends the investigation/trial while in office, but he will. His delay tactics will work. And we can all reminisce about how he was almost held accountable that one time 

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Posted
Just now, Neonmoon said:

It doesn’t matter how he ends the investigation/trial while in office, but he will. His delay tactics will work. And we can all reminisce about how he was almost held accountable that one time 

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Jack smith hubris is in play here too. He’s very good at his job and built up a case so strong, that in his mind even a maga judge has to convict 

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trump dancing after many years of delaying this whole deal 

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Except for impeachment, his pardon power is limitless 
The current administration should do more to limit the executive branch instead of assuming the next guy in office will adhere to norms and not try to steal a fucking election and self-pardon. But here we are, praying Americans won't reelect a sexual predator lunatic and red states won't Continue to steal elections.
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Posted
6 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


Except for impeachment, his pardon power is limitless 

I’ll take that bet on a self pardon.  The SCOTUS waffling on the recent VRA surprise means they are not completely unaware of optics and their reputation- and will grudgingly do the correct thing, again for self-interest 

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1 minute ago, Born to Run said:
9 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Except for impeachment, his pardon power is limitless 

The current administration should do more to limit the executive branch instead of assuming the next guy in office will adhere to norms and not try to steal a fucking election and self-pardon. But here we are, praying Americans won't reelect a sexual predator lunatic and red states won't Continue to steal elections.


#1 on that list, no judge should be appointed for life. 
 

#2 term limits across the board

 

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Posted
Just now, Gatorubet said:

I’ll take that bet on a self pardon.  The SCOTUS waffling on the recent VRA surprise means they are not completely unaware of optics and their reputation- and will grudgingly do the correct thing, again for self-interest 


thomas and his block are about to hold up case history, when it benefits them (and their puppet masters) …..

The Supreme Court has made clear that, subject to the exception for impeachment, the president’s power to grant pardons is “unlimited,” with virtually no oversight or limiting role for Congress. In Ex parte Garland, which involved President Andrew Johnson’s pardon of a lawyer who had served in the legislature of the Confederacy, the court indicated that the president’s pardon power covers all federal offenses. The president can issue a pardon at any point after a crime is committed and before, during or after criminal proceedings have taken place. The president cannot, however, pardon someone for future crimes. A pardon covers both the offender’s conviction for the crime and the sentence for that crime.
 

https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/the-supreme-court-and-the-presidents-pardon-power/

Posted
6 minutes ago, Born to Run said:
13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Except for impeachment, his pardon power is limitless 

The current administration should do more to limit the executive branch instead of assuming the next guy in office will adhere to norms and not try to steal a fucking election and self-pardon. But here we are, praying Americans won't reelect a sexual predator lunatic and red states won't Continue to steal elections.

Every president since Reagan has expanded executive powers with absolutely zero pushback from Congress. They are cowards, who can only see things in terms of the next election cycle which of these days basically begins as soon as the new session starts.

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How long has smith been working cases at The Hague before this. The Hague has actual judges (when compared to the us judicial system) 

We had a had a Supreme Court nominee’s debt wiped out. What’s this maga judge going to be offered to help delay this until trump can try to win back office ? 

Posted
3 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

I'm imagining my kid in a fucking apache against a bunch of 300 pound 2-pack-a-day-smokers with pre-diabetes with assault rifles. 

Seems like a bit of a mismatch. 

 

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Posted
13 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

Sometimes I think there's something about being a really attractive woman that kills their brain cells. 

Dude, can you at least pretend not to be an incel? 

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

It really isn't, that's a Trumpian notion.  See, e.g. Juan Merchan.

It's only illegal if the donation isn't to Trump.  I thought we established that already?  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I never said she’d do the right thing.  I said her selfish ass might finally do the thing least-worst for her. 

Precisely

Posted
1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Once in office he can tell DOJ to drop the charge - if pending.  I doubt a self pardon is doable. 

You're partially correct. A self pardon would never be accepted for a Demoncrat president. It's totally legal and totally cool for the Don

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Posted
10 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

While its base swelled to 6 million members by 2018, it has lost ground since then, with LaPierre saying in a 2021 deposition that its membership was "under 4.9 million."May 27, 2022
 

So if by most she means maybe 5% of us. 

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9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

While its base swelled to 6 million members by 2018, it has lost ground since then, with LaPierre saying in a 2021 deposition that its membership was "under 4.9 million."May 27, 2022
 

So if by most she means maybe 5% of us. 

and I would think less than 1% of them would willingly rise up for Drumpf. So basically Kyle, TX will rise up for him. I think we can handle that.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

and I would think less than 1% of them would willingly rise up for Drumpf. So basically Kyle, TX will rise up for him. I think we can handle that.


I’ll guess the avg nra member’s age is 73

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Seriously…..Kari Lake actually having the spine to attempt to violently interfere with the criminal judicial process would make this whole story even better. Seeing Kari repeatedly perforated by much better armed and trained US Marshals protecting the courts, her body slumped to the ground, her caked-on makeup running from the few tears of horrific pain that managed to escape her grotesque eyes before she breathed her last? Well, frame that and put it in the Smithsonian. It would be the perfect work of art.
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@tx 3 putt, @Brisketexan, I'm about to mass neg-rep the two of y'all if y'all don't stop being idiot tankies.

Seriously, anyone still saying "BUH BUH BUH HE GOT OUT OF IT BEFORRRRR" conveniently ignoring This is not like those times because it is a federal criminal case which is different in kind from those things at this point is just being willfully stupid. Like the kid insisting that the Tooth Fairy still exists while Dad stands in front of her holding last night's teeth and a roll of quarters.

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Kari Lake implies "most" of 75 million Americans are members of the NRA.

The NRA has approximately 5.5 million members.

Arithmetic, how does it work?

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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh, and an observation about how and why MAGA world actually loves Trump getting into and wiggling out of jams.
Remember when the OJ acquittal verdict was announced? Black Americans were literally pouring out of their homes and celebrating in the streets, ecstatic. They weren’t happy that OJ got away with murder, or that the victims were dead, or anything like that. They were happy that one of them - a black man - actually beat the system, when the system has been fucking over black Americans for centuries. The fact that he committed the crime made it even more profound. A black man finally fought the system, with the odds stacked against him (because he killed victims), and won. His victory was theirs.
So, when you understand that MAGATs are the biggest snowflakes in history, and actually believe that they are oppressed, and society is out to get them (and that’s the only reason they are stuck working in a warehouse, or at a truck stop, or wherever), Trump “beating the system” is THEIR victory over the thing that the think has oppressed them.
So, this is just another chance for them to live out their fantasy.

 

Posted
45 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Kari Lake implies "most" of 75 million Americans are members of the NRA.

The NRA has approximately 5.5 million members.

Arithmetic, how does it work?

they didn't become trump supporters by paying attention in school

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Posted
2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:
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The Supreme Court has not weighed in on the question whether Trump can pardon himself. In a memorandum dated Aug. 5, 1974 – less than a week before President Richard Nixon resigned – acting Assistant Attorney General Mary Lawton of the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel concluded that the answer is no. The memorandum left open the possibility of two work-arounds, however: Congress could pardon the president (an unlikely scenario these days); or the president could allow the vice president to become the acting president under the 25th Amendment, on the ground that the president was temporarily unable to perform his duties, and the vice president could then pardon him.

You left this part out. Accidentally. 

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