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Listened to the rest.  Here is a quote from Doctorow towards the end of the podcast in response to whether he is optimistic or pessimistic about fixing enshitification.

 

“So here's a way out of that trap. And it's to throw away pessimism and throw away optimism, which are both fatalism, right? Pessimism, the belief things are going to get worse no matter what we do.

Optimism, the belief things are going to get better no matter what we do. What we do matters, right? We are steering history.

And what we call that belief is hope. And hope is the belief that even though you can't see your way from here to the end state that you want to achieve, that if you ascend the gradient towards that future, that as you ascend it, you will attain new vantage points from which will be revealed to you terrain that was invisible when you were at that lower spot. And that that will be your next step.”

 

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3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Listened to the rest.  Here is a quote from Doctorow towards the end of the podcast in response to whether he is optimistic or pessimistic about fixing enshitification.

 

“So here's a way out of that trap. And it's to throw away pessimism and throw away optimism, which are both fatalism, right? Pessimism, the belief things are going to get worse no matter what we do.

Optimism, the belief things are going to get better no matter what we do. What we do matters, right? We are steering history.

And what we call that belief is hope. And hope is the belief that even though you can't see your way from here to the end state that you want to achieve, that if you ascend the gradient towards that future, that as you ascend it, you will attain new vantage points from which will be revealed to you terrain that was invisible when you were at that lower spot. And that that will be your next step.”

 

Bunch of hippy dippy mumbo jumbo bullshit.

Translated:  If you stay alive and don't die you will gain new experiences.  Those experiences will allow you to see the world in different ways than before.

Great insight by that guy.

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2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

I mean sure but if you have a company issued device like a laptop pretty sure they can already figure out is said laptop was on office wifi (besides cameras, badging in or our and a myriad of other ways to figure out who is physically there if they want to). 
 

Seems like a worthless feature so it’s perfect for this thread but not sure it’s gonna move the needle much on employees being tracked. 

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14 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I mean sure but if you have a company issued device like a laptop pretty sure they can already figure out is said laptop was on office wifi (besides cameras, badging in or our and a myriad of other ways to figure out who is physically there if they want to). 
 

Seems like a worthless feature so it’s perfect for this thread but not sure it’s gonna move the needle much on employees being tracked. 

Yeah, this is already something that can be done if you are on a company laptop Microsoft Teams isn't accomplishing anything new. With that said, Teams is ass, my dude. 

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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Bunch of hippy dippy mumbo jumbo bullshit.

Translated:  If you stay alive and don't die you will gain new experiences.  Those experiences will allow you to see the world in different ways than before.

Great insight by that guy.

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On 10/15/2025 at 7:11 AM, HenryJames said:

Stopped at the McDonald's in San Marcos a few weeks ago, and there was a Door Dash guy there picking up stuff.

Was his hair perfect?

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7 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

I mean sure but if you have a company issued device like a laptop pretty sure they can already figure out is said laptop was on office wifi (besides cameras, badging in or our and a myriad of other ways to figure out who is physically there if they want to). 
 

Seems like a worthless feature so it’s perfect for this thread but not sure it’s gonna move the needle much on employees being tracked. 

 

6 hours ago, F250 said:

Yeah, this is already something that can be done if you are on a company laptop Microsoft Teams isn't accomplishing anything new. With that said, Teams is ass, my dude. 

Or heaven forbid a manager actually walk down the hall and see if their people are present.  

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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

 

Or heaven forbid a manager actually walk down the hall and see if their people are present.  

The manager is working from home. 

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19 minutes ago, Deej said:

The manager is working from home. 

I mean, duh.  It's so the manager, working from home, can ensure the drones are in the office, where they belong. 

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The good news is that given how screwed up the Windows 11 takeover is becoming, I have much less time to spend worrying about politics.>:(

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1 hour ago, AnTiM said:

The good news is that given how screwed up the Windows 11 takeover is becoming, I have much less time to spend worrying about politics.>:(

thats good, you're in Daily Texan... not that anyone could tell.

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2 hours ago, Iceman said:

what if you're on VPN, Mr Teams Tracker?

It can probably cross reference with GPS / Location Services. 

This is MSFT responding to the corporate market. RTO is a big deal, and once Amazon started requiring 5 days a week in office that freed up many others like AT&T to do the same.

If you work for a shitty company that tracks you, get out.  

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I don't get tracked, at least there have never been conversations related to it. I work on the road at various locations throughout the year.  If I ain't on the road, I work from home.

If we ain't where we are supposed to be, shit gets fucked up, so there's that piece of not wondering if you are essential, as well. I never have to worry about that stuff because there's gonna be a lot slower runners before that bear gets to me.  I've also had fuckers try to manage me from the office before, until I tell them where to look on their tracking reports for supporting evidence/ counter-points- then they quietly hang up.

Before I started this gig, I drove about 40k miles per year and got reimbursed by DOT rate. For the final 3 years or so, they gave us a motus ap that tracked our ipad.  All I had to do was take it with me wherever I went for work.  When it came to the end of the month, I entered my closing odometer 1 time, and it created a one pager for 4 weeks of mileage to electronically attach to our expense report.  Some of the guys balked at it and continued to spend all kinds of time filling out the old forms.  I was like, "You motherfuckers are so scared of that shit, but it is one of the single best time-savers they ever gave us."

I've also used GPS tracking on our company assets to defend employees against accusation of wrongdoing.  People get real fucking quiet when you show them your driver was 25 miles from where they accused...

Last 2 paragraphs are just saying not all tracking is bad.  It can be leveraged for positive outcomes as well.  That depends upon the users, which does tie into Buzzrock's final sentence.  I'd just posit that the tools aren't inherently bad.  Shitty people absolutely can be.

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