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I think what's happened is fascinating and id love to find a study or conduct one. 

My hypothesis is that the American people got tired of the cookie cutter Nikki Haley types who are just empty shells assigned to a party who have no personal ideology or platform and are just doing what they do for power and noteriety. 

They want to believe that people are fully invested in what they want to accomplish which leads to extremist views and conviction with the speaking. The problem is it's hard to take extremist views seriously right now when it involves reversing clear progress that's been made vs progress that we still want to make. 

I don't think the Democratic platform is one filled with extremism, but there are some aspects that are "too progressive" for some. It's just easier for someone like Kamala to come in the scene and seem like she genuinely gives a shit. 

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

 

At least she's not guzzling the Trump kool-aid bleach like the rest of MAGA, and openly admits that the party that nominates someone other than the old fading white guy is getting an edge.  She goes on to say why Kamala would be a terrible president, which is no different than any other Republican, whether MAGA or pre-MAGA.  But she understands that attacking or even commenting on her gender or race is a bad move.  Too bad (or good) that her party won't listen to her.

Also Tapper was so bad in that interview. Just sat there and let her spew bullshit.

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Just now, Js1 said:

Also Tapper was so bad in that interview. Just sat there and let her spew bullshit.

I don't know what the fuck is up with Tapper.  When in studio he's shown the ability to call bullshit on MAGA, but when he's in an in-person interview, or during the June presidential debate, he turns into a giant pussy who's happy to give a platform for bullshit fucking lies without saying a peep.

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5 hours ago, safe sex said:

The vibes are great; I love everything he says; he looks way older than he is

 Nothing a sharpie can’t fix.

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We need a new thread title now that it's clear who the 2 candidate are. I was going to wait until after the DNC, but if the Obama's are in that means it's happening. 

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15 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

 

This is the main problem in Texas. The data below show the actual number of votes that were cast in 2020 in comparison to each state's 18+ age (voter-aged) population, according to the 2020 Census.

Less than half of our "adults" voted. As Js1 has stated repeatedly, we don't vote at nearly the same rate as other states. Why is that?

Years and years of gerrymandering and voter suppression have led to a whole swath of folks being too discouraged to vote. I can't tell you how many times I've heard (and even thought myself): "It doesn't matter how I vote -- I live in Texas."

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Edited to add North Carolina and Wisconsin. Yes, they were gerrymandered, but they haven't been trained over decades to acquire the same sense of learned helplessness. This is what 30 years of one-party rule does to the public.

Yes the poor performance of the TX Democrat party has made all of us, including Republicans, understand that our votes don’t matter for statewide elections. I normally vote Democrat and I seriously do not know who runs the state party and whether there even is a statewide party. It wouldn’t surprise me if the same person(s) have been in charge of it for 20 years. Earning a nice paycheck while consistently failing. 

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10 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm at the point where I think Tapper is secretly full-on maga. 

I’m not there yet but do think CNN leadership lets them editorialize, but not push back/fact check interviews for fear of Republicans not coming on the network. Because Collins was just awful on Sunday letting the Republican she had claim Biden was dead 

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33 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Also Tapper was so bad in that interview. Just sat there and let her spew bullshit.

Tapper isn’t a real journalist. Barack out front shoulda told ya.

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We need a new thread title now that it's clear who the 2 candidate are. I was going to wait until after the DNC, but if the Obama's are in that means it's happening. 

We’re Not Going Back

Also we should probably open about nine new threads on the election.
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1 minute ago, Red Five said:


We’re Not Going Back

Also we should probably open about nine new threads on the election.

It can't be only one party specific. The we may be fucked thing works for both candidates. The current thread title is neutral as well. 

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11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

I think he's stuck with him. 

I bet he doesn't last past the DNC.  He'll replace him w/ a female candidate. 

And I don't wear hats but would absolutely wear a "White Dudes for Harris" tshirt. 

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10 minutes ago, immamac said:

It can't be only one party specific. The we may be fucked thing works for both candidates. The current thread title is neutral as well. 

How about "Cackles and Couches"?

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Apparently the Vance fucking a couch thing is real and was in his book prior to 2016. There are some screen shots floating around the TikToks. It would be interesting to see a pre2016 copy.

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6 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I bet he doesn't last past the DNC.  He'll replace him w/ a female candidate. 

And I don't wear hats but would absolutely wear a "White Dudes for Harris" tshirt. 

I’d wear the hat. I’d keep it in my car too for the few times I’ve seen some lame ass MAGA shirt at the gym 

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1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

They've found out the plot.  (Why are they so obsessed with Michelle Obama?)

 

Always happy to see clips of this clown exposed. 

My only concern about the incredible JD Vance storyline is if he gets replaced by this asshole. Hopefully the GOP is too racist and would never let it happen. I think Vivek is a incredibly dangerous person and needs to fuck right off out of the political arena. 

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4 minutes ago, GopherRock said:

The rest of America is learning what us Minnesotans have known for a while: he's a damn effective governor. Alongside a DFL Legislature, they are a big fan of competent governance.  Among other things, his administration had the unemployment system ready to roll and fully funded when the COVID shutdowns sent everyone to the unemployment line

Is the Gov Lite ready to succeed him? He’s very young right?

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Well, not technically. While various public opinion research outfits (like Pew) start GenX at 1965 because that’s *clearly* a Gen X cohort and you’re not catching baby boomers at the left tail, most demographers and the social security administration use 1961 because that’s when the birth rate started dropping, thus the baby boom was over. Sociologists are often in the middle, saying that Gen X begins with the vibe shift that followed the Kennedy Assassination. 
For these reasons, it’s pretty accurate to call Kamala Harris a Gen Xer because culturally, she is. 

Fully agree with you on the cultural bit, just ribbing the poster wanting Gen X to rise up.

Although, re the SSA, they also seem to use 1965: https://www.ssa.gov/open/data/EOY-Generational-Data.html

I've never heard the Kennedy assassination thing but I think I like that definition in theory.

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1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

Not that I would ever vote for her, but this is what the gop ought to be leading with. She would be a formidable candidate against any democrat. Instead Dotard has taken over the party and the whacko nutjobs are in control. 

Nikki’s words are meaningless. Who gives a fuck what she says?

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I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

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Just now, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?


 

Nancy Pelosi Matilda GIF
 

Stefanik?

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1 minute ago, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

Kristi Noem says hi. And that's just to start with. 

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1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

Not that I would ever vote for her, but this is what the gop ought to be leading with. She would be a formidable candidate against any democrat. Instead Dotard has taken over the party and the whacko nutjobs are in control. 

Did he ask her her thoughts on her own PAC abandoning her and endorsing Harris? 

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

I think what's happened is fascinating and id love to find a study or conduct one. 

My hypothesis is that the American people got tired of the cookie cutter Nikki Haley types who are just empty shells assigned to a party who have no personal ideology or platform and are just doing what they do for power and noteriety. 

They want to believe that people are fully invested in what they want to accomplish which leads to extremist views and conviction with the speaking. The problem is it's hard to take extremist views seriously right now when it involves reversing clear progress that's been made vs progress that we still want to make. 

I don't think the Democratic platform is one filled with extremism, but there are some aspects that are "too progressive" for some. It's just easier for someone like Kamala to come in the scene and seem like she genuinely gives a shit. 

I mean, your hypothesis is a legitimate critique/concern of Harris. I couldn't tell you what the specifics are for her vision of the country because she's never really articulated that.

It just so happens that 1.) Presidential elections are first and foremost personal popularity contests, and 2.) The Democratic party agenda is more popular than Joe Biden was personally - see polling on Senate races and Congressional generic ballot. Her being a relatively personable version of "Generic Democrat" may end up being a strength running against a very unpopular Donald Trump.

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1 minute ago, Mo Horn said:

Kristi Noem says hi. And that's just to start with. 

IMHO this is why he can't replace Vance - all of the alternatives that he could stomach have massive amounts of baggage that turns off everyone who isn't in the cult. 

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8 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

Stephanick

Gnome

Graham 

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4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

IMHO this is why he can't replace Vance - all of the alternatives that he could stomach have massive amounts of baggage that turns off everyone who isn't in the cult. 

Must be bad if you have so much baggage you can't replace a known couch fucker.

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6 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

I mean, being in the GOP at this point categorically means full loyalty to Donald Trump. Look at Haley. Made a lot, a lot of noise in the primary and ultimately offered a whole-hearted endorsement. Trump is the platform, Trump is the party. Any female with an R by their name would ultimately pass this test.

It's legitimately more likely he doesn't think any of them are hot enough.

Posted (edited)

So if this couch thing can take off, I think there should be a grass roots effort purporting to come from "inside the house" suggesting Trump resign, it's best for the party, etc.  He would never do it, of course, and his followers won't buy it, but I think if it got enough traction, it would fuck with his head tremendously.  Hell you can start with -- "Project 2025 architects pleased with JD Vance pick given his support for the plan, but extremely unhappy with Trump's unwillingness to back agenda . . . considering withholding funding until he supports and our steps aside for JD Vance."  Wishful thinking, but there needs to be some "from inside the house" casting doubts on Trump's age, cognitive ability, and loyalty to conservative values...  It's not going to change votes, but it will unhinge Trump.

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13 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

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