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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

49-45 RV

51-45 LV

+11 with independents, +20 with 18-39, +23 with women 18-29 and +17 women 30-49, +14 with men 18-29, +72 with black voters, +15 with Latina women, +8 in battlegrounds 

+6 sounds like a NC, AZ, and GA win

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9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Folks, we might have a new nickname for Kamala.  This one might stick.   Also, 2 am:

 

 

 

 

 

 

STFU Dotard, your dad was a nazi.

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12 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Folks, we might have a new nickname for Kamala.  This one might stick.   Also, 2 am:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’m really surprised he hasn’t used “Camel Toe Kamala” or “Crack Sniffin’ Kamala” yet. He’s probably saving the really offensive nicknames for his Nazi city rallies. 

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Just now, MrBig said:

 He’s probably saving the really offensive nicknames for his Nazi city rallies. 

He's giving the speech at the Livingston County Sherrif's Office.   The question I have is....   Indoor or outdoor?

About Us - Livingston County, MI

 

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Wish Kamala wouldn't have mentioned price controls but that's the only misstep in the last month so whatever I guess.

MAGA and the Elons of the world really running with Kamala = communism but also Putin = good.

And yeah DonOld's dad was arrested at a KKK rally and Trump is having a rallying in a KKK town in Michigan next week.

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new this morning from the WP, idiots in the same boat are rowing in different directions and getting angry

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Nick Fuentes, right center, a white supremacist and antisemite pictured in 2020, is encouraging his followers to join his attack on the Trump campaign leaders for not positioning more to the right. (Jacquelyn Martin/AP)
By Drew Harwell
August 18, 2024 at 7:05 a.m. EDT

Some of the internet’s most influential far-right figures are turning against former president Donald Trump’s campaign, threatening a digital “war” against the Republican candidate’s aides and allies that could complicate the party’s calls for unity in the final weeks of the presidential race.

Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist and podcaster who dined with Trump at his Palm Beach resort Mar-a-Lago in 2022, said on X that Trump’s campaign was “blowing it” by not positioning itself more to the right and was “headed for a catastrophic loss,” in a post that by Wednesday had been viewed 2.6 million times.

Laura Loomer, a far-right activist whom Trump last year called “very special,” said his “weak” surrogates had unraveled his momentum and that his approach “needs to change FAST because we can’t talk about a stolen election for another 4 years,” in an X post that was “liked” more than 8,000 times.

And Candace Owens, a far-right influencer with 5 million X followers who was photographed with Trump in March, described the conservative infighting in a podcast Tuesday as a “MAGA Civil War” fueled by anger that Trump’s policies and persona had been softened to boost his mainstream appeal.


“I’m just not sure who is driving the MAGA bus anymore,” she said, making it clear like other vocal far-right influencers that her problem isn’t with Trump but with his staff. “You’re losing that support from the people that believed in you. … You need those people.”
The insider attacks, which come as other backers are calling for Trump to take a more disciplined, policy-oriented approach to his campaign, highlight a new vulnerability in one of the loudest corners of Trump’s nationwide base. With millions of followers, the far-right provocateurs have long been one of the most reliable engines for winning Trump attention online, helping to build the viral energy that boosted his political career and his strong lead among predominantly White male voters. Trump embraced far-right internet celebrities before the 2016 and 2020 elections, even welcoming some to the White House for a 2019 “social media summit.”
As Trump’s campaign grapples with slumping performance in the polls, the far-right activists argue that it has failed by not adopting harder-right positions on race and immigration. They have also called for the campaign to fire its co-managers, Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles, blaming them for a lackluster strategy.

Many of the campaign’s hard-right critics said they still stand strongly behind Trump himself. But some of them have vowed to pummel the campaign online and at Trump rallies unless it changes course, presenting a challenge for campaign officials who have worked to publicly disavow or disregard extreme voices for fear they could alienate voters.
Trump’s retooling of his campaign on Thursday, including rehiring his 2016 campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, prompted Fuentes to declare a “first victory” of his campaign, despite Trump’s public praise for LaCivita and Wiles. Online, Loomer mocked Fuentes as having “nothing to do” with the return of Lewandowski — co-author of the book “Let Trump Be Trump” — and said he should “stop pretending like he is calling the shots.”

Some campaign officials previously argued the far-right influencers offer value by amplifying political messages to their audiences. But the more overt recent attacks of Fuentes and his followers, who call themselves “groypers,” have become a “noisy” and counterproductive distraction to the campaign, said a person familiar with its operations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

“If anything, [Fuentes] is hurting the idea of getting fresh blood into the campaign, because it makes it far more difficult for Trump if it looks like he’s responding to the groypers,” the person said.

Asked for comment, Trump’s campaign referred to a Truth Social post Sunday in which Trump said he was “leading in almost all of the REAL polls” and that his team was “doing a great job.”
In an appearance last Sunday on CBS, Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, called Fuentes a “total loser” and said the proper response was to “ignore” trolls like him until they “go away.”

But the far-right criticism has proved agitating for some of Trump’s most devoted online cheerleaders. Brenden Dilley, a pro-Trump podcaster in Georgia, on Monday asked whether Fuentes and others who had attacked Trump were all part of a secret psychological operation, or “psy-op,” designed to “reinforce the Kamala Harris surge narrative.”

“I’ve got a job to do, and these people are a problem,” Dilley said. “Are they being compensated? Are they being deployed as a collective? I do not know.”

Colin Henry, a researcher at George Washington University who has studied political extremism online, said influencers on the far right have grown visibly frustrated in recent weeks by Trump’s fading performance in the polls and the campaign’s disavowal of hard-line policy proposals, such as Project 2025. “They saw that as a shot across the bow from the mainstream folks, who wanted to do all this stuff with policy and institutions,” he said.

The anger of far-right influencers matters because they have proven adept at “punching above their weight” in conservative circles in a way that could bedevil Trump’s campaign, said Ben Lorber, a senior researcher at Political Research Associates, a think tank in Massachusetts that monitors right-wing groups.

“This movement has the ability to move conservative discourse and to open up space far to the right of acceptable conservative opinion for people like Trump to move further rightward,” he said.


During Trump’s conversation Monday with X’s billionaire owner Elon Musk, Fuentes directed his followers via live stream to repeatedly post their views on X, where several of their demands for changes in the campaign sailed to the top of the platform’s trending topics.
His followers led a parallel effort on Trump’s website Truth Social, and the messages, such as #NoMoreImmigration, still ranked among the top hashtags the morning after the interview. #FireLaCivita, with 20,000 recent posts, overshadowed even #Trump2024. Fuentes has also told his followers they should start collecting the phone numbers and email addresses of campaign officials so as to contact them en masse.

In an interview, Fuentes said he intended to push his followers to adopt “guerrilla” tactics and “escalate pressure in the real world,” including through mass appearances at Trump rallies in battleground states such as Michigan, until the campaign had met their demands to stop “pandering to independents.” He has urged followers to withhold their votes for Trump, saying it was the only way to awaken a campaign that had “no energy … [and] no enthusiasm.”

“If they blame me for Trump losing, so be it,” he said. “He’ll have lost because he stopped talking to the MAGA base he had in 2016.” (Loomer and Owens didn’t respond to requests for comment.)

Jared Holt, a senior researcher at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue who studies hate and extremism online, said Fuentes has seemed to lose some of the influence and cachet he gained during Trump’s presidency, but he retains a “cult following” among young conservatives who could indirectly influence the campaign “to adopt more extreme positions.”
Collaborators of Fuentes have worked for far-right members of Congress, including Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Paul A. Gosar (R-Ariz.). And at times, messages from Fuentes — who calls for a white ethnostate in the United States, in which even legal immigration is banned — and more established pro-Trump accounts have closely aligned.


A Tuesday tweet by the campaign account @TrumpWarRoom labeled a photo of Black men “Your Neighborhood Under Kamala” and warned: “Import the third world. Become the third world.”

Vance has been asked about Trump’s dinner with Fuentes several times in TV interviews, telling ABC on Sunday that “just because you talk to somebody doesn’t mean you endorse their views.”

On live streams and social media, Fuentes has marshaled his followers to launch what he is calling “Groyper War 2″ — a sequel to a series of chaotic spectacles in 2019, during which they appeared en masse at speaking events of people they deemed “fake conservatives” to heckle and pepper them with provocative questions over issues such as race and LGBTQ+ rights.
Amanda Moore, a left-wing activist and researcher who has followed Fuentes’s group, said that effort was “extremely successful” in helping far-right influencers publicize their ideology.
“Their objective is to push the party to the right. And they got exactly what they wanted,” Moore said, adding that its success has proved costly for Trump by making his base more volatile. “This is what happens when you’re walking the line for years. This is where it’s going to get you.”
By Drew Harwell
Drew Harwell is a reporter for The Washington Post covering technology. He was a member of an international reporting team that won a George Polk Award in 2021.
 

 

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She prints him reams of pages of material from the internet every day. 

It's not possible for me to feel bad for people who choose to be associated with Trump, but this comes close.

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

meanwhile, reporting on Kamala Harris: (CNN)

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“We’re not going back” is selling. That is a focus on the future 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

from a different WP article about Dotard's disorganization

 

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There's evil behind her innocent appearance.

In 2023, Harp joined Trump's 2024 presidential campaign. In 2024, The Bulwark reported, citing anonymous sources, that Harp was the staffer who had posted a video that included references to a "unified Reich" on Trump's Truth Social account.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Harp

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“I don’t ramble. I’m a smart man.”

Narrator: he went on to ramble and lie about stupid shit that bored people to death. 

 

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Chopper said:

This dude apparently has receipts on Trump's son Barron, a future serial killer (if he hasn't already started).

 

 

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Whoever this person is; having receipts on the behavior of a young Barron is one thing, but posting pics of yourself with other innocent kids as some sort of proof is another.

Barron may very well be (or have been) a budding sociopath.  But this is exactly the wrong way about doing your business.  

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28 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

She prints him reams of pages of material from the internet every day. 

It's not possible for me to feel bad for people who choose to be associated with Trump, but this comes close.

 

Fuck her. Nobody’s holding a gun to her head. 

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38 minutes ago, bolverk said:

There's evil behind her innocent appearance.

In 2023, Harp joined Trump's 2024 presidential campaign. In 2024, The Bulwark reported, citing anonymous sources, that Harp was the staffer who had posted a video that included references to a "unified Reich" on Trump's Truth Social account.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Harp

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Check this shit out.

She was on OAN.

But it’s not clear if Harp brings something unique to the campaign, or if she’s simply filling one of Trump’s psychological needs. “The fact is the president needs someone like Natalie around to feed him constant information and take his orders like a conveyor belt,” said another source familiar with Harp. “If she wasn’t doing this, someone else would.”

Portable-printer sherpa isn’t the only unique job created under Trump. When he was president, the White House employed staffers to tape back together important documents Trump would tear up and throw away.

“No one spends as much time on this campaign around him as Natalie,” said one insider. “If people think she’s an airhead because of her looks, they don’t understand how smart she is and how much the president relies on her.”

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/meet-trumps-human-printer-natalie-harp

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14 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

“If people think she’s an airhead because of her looks, they don’t understand how smart she is and how much the president relies on her.”

oh, it's not because of her looks

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1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

She prints him reams of pages of material from the internet every day. 

It's not possible for me to feel bad for people who choose to be associated with Trump, but this comes close.

 

It gets pretty awkward when he wants to watch Pornhub. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Folks, we might have a new nickname for Kamala.  This one might stick.   Also, 2 am:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your dad was a racist fuck slumlord who you gave an empty office and a phone to nowhere at the end of his life so he could rant into the blank space....so shall it be with your end.

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1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

Walz running thru rural PA is a great idea. Get those small towns on board 

This is true.  The average small town voter who may be skeptical of big-city California Kamala will absolutely see Walz as the guy they have coffee with every morning.

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Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

Marc, what kind of law you thinking about going into? 

I don't know. Maybe election law.

[Guffaws] There's no money or future in that!

19 hours ago, Chopper said:

The presidential campaign too stupid to competently stage a photo.

 

 

 

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WTF is the purple thing? Then, you have two dorks pointing at a bottle of soda and laughing...at what? I suspect one of them just used it to pee in. I know there was some stuff about Mountain Dew before, but who really recalls that now?

 

18 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

More beautiful than Kamala

 

God did such a nice job healing that ear. Dreamy.

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Here's your story, CNN. Every line below is newsworthy from a person seeking the presidency. Just add the lede: Today, here's what Trump had to say at his rally:

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But, but, but we don't have anything to balance it with from the Harris campaign.

That's why it's news, you incompetent imbecile!

 

 

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

“I don’t ramble. I’m a smart man.”

Narrator: he went on to ramble and lie about stupid shit that bored people to death. 

 

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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

Check this shit out.

She was on OAN.

 

“No one spends as much time on this campaign around him as Natalie,” said one insider. “If people think she’s an airhead because of her looks, they don’t understand how smart she is and how much the president relies on her.”

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/meet-trumps-human-printer-natalie-harp

My wife isn't white, but I still love her. 

Natalie looks like bimbo, but we still think she's smart.

40 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Lady in reeeeeeddddddd 

Tailgunner Dotard.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Whoever this person is; having receipts on the behavior of a young Barron is one thing, but posting pics of yourself with other innocent kids as some sort of proof is another.

Barron may very well be (or have been) a budding sociopath.  But this is exactly the wrong way about doing your business.  

I mean, okay, sure, I understand the sentiment. But the dude is now 18 and a manager in charge of a key portion of the presidential campaign of one of the worst people in the world. I don't know the guy posting either, but it fits with other information in the public realm, and the guy appears to be exactly who he says he is. You can look at Dotard's son and come to the conclusion that he's a psychopath in some manner, just from his eyes. You can see his anger in video clips online. Other reports of what his brothers have said about him, and what Barron has said about his parents. Given the circumstances, I have no problem with someone telling the world that Barron is a huge accident waiting to happen, that his parents sucked as parents, and that they're desperate to cover it up. I think about other psychos in recent history where people who knew said nothing - Uvalde, Sandy Hook, etc. 

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A short thread about "weird" from a woman whose profession is testing messages.

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a different strategist in reply, expands on the point

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10 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I mean, okay, sure, I understand the sentiment. But the dude is now 18 and a manager in charge of a key portion of the presidential campaign of one of the worst people in the world. I don't know the guy posting either, but it fits with other information in the public realm, and the guy appears to be exactly who he says he is. You can look at Dotard's son and come to the conclusion that he's a psychopath in some manner, just from his eyes. You can see his anger in video clips online. Other reports of what his brothers have said about him, and what Barron has said about his parents. Given the circumstances, I have no problem with someone telling the world that Barron is a huge accident waiting to happen, that his parents sucked as parents, and that they're desperate to cover it up. I think about other psychos in recent history where people who knew said nothing - Uvalde, Sandy Hook, etc. 

Counter point: pysychos often go after hated family first.  Maybe just let Barrón fix the glitch.

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26 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

WTF is the purple thing? Then, you have two dorks pointing at a bottle of soda and laughing...at what? I suspect one of them just used it to pee in. I know there was some stuff about Mountain Dew before, but who really recalls that now?

JV said at a rally that he drinks Diet Mountain Dew and that the Democrats would probably call that racist. Don’t expect him to make sense. 

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32 minutes ago, Chopper said:

A short thread about "weird" from a woman whose profession is testing messages.

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a different strategist in reply, expands on the point

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Tl;dr it “works” because it’s true 

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