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20 minutes ago, royiv said:

But that’s not who you’re now. My point was, as others have alluded to, is you’re “one of the good ones” so you don’t see the overt racism that someone in a different station of life might experience. Willing to be wrong, but it was just a reaction I had reading the post I was replying to.

Yes saying I was treated the same.  It didn’t change.  If anything it was better back then before people had all the brainwashing.  

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2 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Jesus Christ look at his fucking makeup.  This looks worse than the Cornyn picture.  Whoever is doing this must truly hate him.

 

Supposedly he puts on the makeup himself. 

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"...Trump insists that [tariffs] will encourage companies to move factories back to the United States without raising costs for consumers — which is an argument many economists disagree with."

I've heard this quite a bit, phrased almost exactly the same every time.  Are there any legitimate economists who agree with Trump?

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35 minutes ago, bluto said:

I dare ya to swim into texags waters on the interview today 

“totally owned the interviewer”

”he’s on a roll despite being interrupted”

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3498147

I know it's mindboggling but secrant is actually worse than txags.  Fucking SEC.  At least I can take solace knowing a bunch of liberal commie pinkos are running that shithole. 

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He’s ‘Obsessed’: What Trump’s Madison Square Garden Rally Is All About

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-obsessed-madison-square-garden-podcasts?r=10es58&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

 

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FOR THREE STRAIGHT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS, Donald Trump mused about holding a rally at Madison Square Garden. Now it’s finally happening.

The ex-president’s campaign announced on Monday that he would appear at the world’s most famous arena on October 27, just nine days before voters head to the polls.

Despite Trump’s occasional boast, no one on his team actually believes that they have a chance at picking up New York’s twenty-eight Electoral College votes.

 

 

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Instead, the event is a play for the candidate’s id.

Headlining Madison Square Garden represents the fulfillment of a longtime dream for an outer-borough kid who always has a New York state of mind, even after he technically became a Florida Man.

“I’m gonna fill the Garden,” Trump proudly boasted to a confidant who relayed the comment to The Bulwark on condition of anonymity.

 

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Trump, the confidant said, “has just been obsessed with this for at least a year. This is his campaign. So it’s happening.”

It won’t come cheap. The campaign will probably shell out at least $1 million to rent Madison Square Garden, pay union labor to build the stage, and manage the event, a source familiar with the discussions said. The arena can hold nearly 20,000 people.

 

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Trump has privately fumed in fundraisers about the cash gap between his campaign and Vice President Kamala Harris’s, as the New York Times reported this weekend. But his advisers say they have more than enough money to cover the hefty MSG expense and remain competitive in advertising through November 5. They say Trump plans a fundraiser around the rally, as he often does. They also justify the event as an effective way to attract broad attention because the national media is based in New York City and, as they see it, can never resist amplifying coverage in its backyard.

Trump’s rally in the Bronx in May attracted outsized attention. So too did his various appearances for his New York trial, where he would often go on days when his attendance was not required just to hold court with the press. They believe Madison Square Garden will guarantee more buzz and coverage.

“Madison Square Garden has already paid for itself,” crowed one Trump adviser.

Said a second adviser: “It’s great optics. Optics matter.”

TRUMP WILL BE JOINING A LONG LINE of presidents over the last century who spoke at Madison Square Garden in the final days of their campaigns, including both Hoover and Roosevelt in 1932,1 Roosevelt again in 1936 and 1940, Truman in 1948, Eisenhower in 1956, Kennedy in 1960, and Johnson in 1964. (All these were at the old MSG, demolished in 1968.) Most of these speeches were forgettable—FDR’s in 1936 being the exception—but all these candidates hoped a good showing at the Garden would give their campaigns a final boost of enthusiasm.

For Trump, the MSG event is part of the bicoastal rally-and-spectacle phase of his campaign, one that has seen him travel to other blue states this month, including California (in the Coachella Valley on Saturday) and Colorado (in Aurora on Friday). Trump’s campaign is discussing a rally in New Jersey as well—potentially at the Prudential Center in Newark—which will test whether the national media’s appetite for events in their backyard extends across the Hudson River.

A source who has discussed the rallies with Trump said the events in these blue states could influence some congressional races in the hopes that Republicans keep control of the House, where they have a paper-thin majority of 220–212.

“The reason we have a majority in the House right now is because of California and New York,” the source said. “You pick up a seat here, you pick up a seat there, the NRCC does its job and all of a sudden you’re not impeached on your first day in office.

Trump’s campaign describes each of the events as unique messaging opportunities (California progressivism under Harris; the toll of migration in Colorado; crime and immigration in New York). But ultimately the rallies settle into a familiar script. Trump reads his teleprompter for about 45 minutes and ad-libs for an additional 45 minutes or so. His desultory stream-of-consciousness speeches, farragoes of lies, exaggerations, and misstatements, have increasingly drawn negative press coverage focused on his age and sanity. The Trump campaign dismisses the criticism as elite chatter that doesn’t matter to his voters.

Trump’s town hall Monday in Pennsylvania took a strange and newsworthy turnwhen two people passed out at separate times in the audience. That prompted Trump to cut the Q&A session short so he could play his favorite musical hits like a DJ.

What’s important to the Trump campaign is controlling the news cycle—which explains why he has held fifteen events in the first fourteen days of this month—and reaching the right voters. The candidate has had a ubiquitous presence on male-centric podcasts like Flagrant (last week) and Full Send (today), on the latter of which Trump announced he would be a guest on The Joe Rogan Experience, the most popular podcast on Spotify. Reuters reported Monday that Harris may also appear on Rogan’s show, which has not confirmed either candidate as a guest.

Trump also recently recorded an episode with Bussin’ with the Boys (dropping this week) and he plans an appearance on Six Feet Under, a podcast with former professional wrestling star the Undertaker.

AFTER A PERIOD of largely avoiding the press, Harris has embraced nontraditional media by appearing last week on Alex Cooper’s Call Her Daddy and on Howard Stern’s show. But Harris also made time for more traditional shows, such as The View and 60 Minutes. She is also set to appear on Fox News, as well as CNN for a town hall that was scheduled in light of Trump declining to debate Harris on that network.

On Sunday, Harris called out Trump for not releasing his health records and skipping that second debate with her.

“Why does his staff want him to hide away?” Harris said to applause in Greenville, North Carolina. “Are they afraid that people will see that he is too weak and unstable to lead America? Is that what’s going on?”

That prompted a response from the Trump campaign’s rapid-response team on X, which called Harris’s remarks “highly cringe” and accused her of “projecting.” Privately, Trump aides believe that Harris has been suckered into a more conventional approach while the ex-president is reaching audiences and driving coverage in more novel ways.

“We’re going around you guys in the media,” said a third Trump adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity. “And MSG? It is what it is. Trump is going to sell out Madison Square Garden and he’s gonna let everyone know and that’s a win.”

But Trump is not actually selling out the arena; admission is free.

“Doesn’t matter,” the adviser said. “Who cares about that?”

 

 

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Posted
Just now, CTC2 said:

As a white guy who has lived in Texas all my life I can assure you that the percentage is large.  What you are missing is what these same people are saying after you walk off.  Rural Texas is a cesspool of racism and Christian Nationalism. 
I own some land in East Texas. When I go into town, I hear the talk in the cafe. I encounter a large proportion of bigots.   But, I will say that the farmers and ranchers have no problem relying on illegal labor in their operations. 
Think about it this way, look at the rural margins for Ted Cruz after voting takes place. That tells you everything you should know about them. 

Oh yeah, see my quote after on west texas.  You don't have to convince me.  I was more talking the country as a whole.  But that's over...  I'm born again baby, fuck them racist/sexist pieces of shit.  LFG

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11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yes saying I was treated the same.  It didn’t change.  If anything it was better back then before people had all the brainwashing.  

Got it. I misunderstood you originally.

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

*****************BREAKING SURLY ITEAM NEWS EXCLUSIVE*******************

Early turn out in Georgia is massive.  My ballot, cast at approximately 11:30, was the 634th of the day, and there were 200 people in line behind me, and no signs of slowing.  For reference, our precinct in 2020 had approximately 8000 votes cast in 2020, all manners of voting.  Today is on pace to have at least 1000 votes cast on day 1.  Also, unscientifically and just from observation, the crowd skewed markedly younger in comparison from 2020, I would guess down from an average age of 60sih then to roughly 50ish this time.  Overheard in line behind several Republicans, "This doesn't look good."  Lots of women, lots, by my guess approximately 2 to 1.  So younger, more women, about the same amount of racial diversity.  Lots less olds, lots.  

Observed, Republican poll monitor looking mighty unhappy about the turnout, Democratic poll monitor with a happy smile.  I'm not under any delusion that Dems will win my area, but negate any advantage held prior looks very favorable.  (Last time around 60/40 Republican-Dem.  We've got a shot at 45% in my mind).  

I liked what I read until the last 3 sentences.   *If* your district is 45% D, why would you be enthused about the turnout?  You gonna be down 10 votes for every 100, but you want to make it up in volume?  I hope you're wrong about the percentages.

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11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yes saying I was treated the same.  It didn’t change.  If anything it was better back then before people had all the brainwashing.  

With all due respect, those pink shoes you had to wear as a poor boy won over your classmates. Go out and get yourself some today, and the world can once again be your oyster.

 

 

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1 minute ago, locodos said:

I liked what I read until the last 3 sentences.   *If* your district is 45% D, why would you be enthused about the turnout?  You gonna be down 10 votes for every 100, but you want to make it up in volume?  I hope you're wrong about the percentages.

Picking up 5% in my area negates 20k worth of Republican votes in other areas.  In a state won by 10k last time around, that's a big deal.  

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

pay union labor to build the stage

be a real shame if some disgruntled union workers did a shoddy job.  We know Trump loves unions and overtime pay.

On that Bloomberg interview, please please please do more.  People need to see this.  I have to say, I though Mickelthwait excelled at meats but an even better interviewer.

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Trump's answers remind me of a smartass comment I make whenever anyone tells me "I got a question for you."  I say, I have an answer, it might not be the right answer, it might not be the answer you want to hear, it might not even make any sense, but I always got an answer.

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2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

With all due respect, those pink shoes you had to wear as a poor boy won over your classmates. Go out and get yourself some today, and the world can once again be your oyster.

 

 

Pink men's shoes cost MORE these days.  The audacity.  

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2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Pink men's shoes cost MORE these days.  The audacity.  

This Biden/Harris economy and its inflation will the ruin of us all.

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13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I’m glad Trump is spending all his time in the critical swing states of California, Illinois, and New York.

I'm not, please get him the fuck out.  Come back to IL to dry out and I hear dumbfuck is coming here.  As if I don't get dotard overload in FL.  Fuck, win or lose, this asshole needs to double up on his big mac intake. 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Picking up 5% in my area negates 20k worth of Republican votes in other areas.  In a state won by 10k last time around, that's a big deal.  

Lil Jon What GIFs | Tenor

More Trump votes = more Trump votes.  I get the improved percentage (hopefully that carries over to other more left leaning districts)   What I want to hear is >50%D and low voter engagement in strong R districts

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30 minutes ago, shakahorn said:

"...Trump insists that [tariffs] will encourage companies to move factories back to the United States without raising costs for consumers — which is an argument many economists disagree with."

I've heard this quite a bit, phrased almost exactly the same every time.  Are there any legitimate economists who agree with Trump?

Short answer: No.  Not a one.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Pancho said:

As I got older, I found more White people who will exhibit microaggressions towards myself and other Blacks/Latinos while simultaneously having Black Lives Matter and LULAC/Cesar Chavez posters hanging up in their offices. 

I don’t know what that means so y’all need to figure it out 

 

Can you start a thread about this? I think it’s a really important topic that speaks to (among other things) why progressives struggle to gain the support of people they believe themselves to be championing.  As this forum has become more of a progressive safe space I think it’s worth discussing here. 

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Short answer: No.  Not a one.

Correct 

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38 minutes ago, 'stache said:

He’s an absolute moron. This is definitely a simulation.

I'm in the sim camp.  Obviously not saying it's a certainty but it should be considered.  Some evidence per googles/AI:

Some evidence that suggests we might be living in a simulation includes: 
 
 
  • Simulation argument
    Philosopher Nick Bostrom's statistical argument suggests that we are likely living in a simulation. 
     
     
  • Laws of physics
    The laws of physics that govern the universe may resemble computer code. 
     
     
  • Missing aliens
    If aliens are more technologically advanced than us, then the fact that we haven't found them could be evidence of a simulation. 
     
     
  • DNA and computer code
    Researchers have been able to embed malicious computer code into DNA strands. 
     
     
  • Second Law of Infodynamics
    University of Portsmouth scientist Melvin Vopson uses this law to argue that the universe's decrease in entropy over time could indicate a digital nature. 
     
     
  • Quantum mechanics
    The strange and unpredictable behavior of subatomic particles could be due to glitches in a simulation. 
     
     
  • Fine-tuning of physical constants
    The values of fundamental physical constants, like the speed of light, seem to be precisely tuned for life in our universe, similar to how parameters are set in simulations. 
     
     
  • Computational limits
    There may be limits to how finely we can measure space and time, which could be because we live in a simulation with a finite resolution. 
     
     
 
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3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Here's the thing....there's a very good chance that many of these stories are true/contain truth.  Why?

Because IT'S A FUCKING CULT.  So, is it credible that a cult member would approach the cult's diety, and be overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment? YEP.  Is it credible that they would tell tales to the cult diety to ingratiate themselves with their god?  YEP.  Might these tales be only loosely based on reality (cabinet maker is actually teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, but that's just because of woke DEI communism; the only reason he's still in business is them there tariffs, even though the cabinet maker has no idea how they figure in to things)?  YEP.

In other words, the underlying message is utter bullshit, but the event -- nutbar teary-eyed cult member tells cult deity some bullshit tale -- may have some real truth to it.

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So can Trump no longer understand questions?  That one where he started talking about a new AF1 in response to a question about reducing govt spending was rather concerning even for him.  Him stopping the Town Hall to dance yesterday seems even more suspicious now.

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So can Trump no longer understand questions?  That one where he started talking about a new AF1 in response to a question about reducing govt spending was rather concerning even for him.

I think if it’s a question he doesn’t want to answer he just starts talking about whatever he wants to talk about. Part of the aging narcissist thing. Probably a self defense mechanism.
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I particularly enjoyed it when his answer to “What can we do to bring down the debt?” was “Buy me a new airplane”. Brilliant stuff Pee Wee German.
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Posted
3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yes. Becuase I'm sure whenever he played football at whatever prep school he attended at any level were playing kids from "bad neighborhoods."

Hey man, it's scary when you have to cross over the East River to play those Upper East & West Side thugs.  

Posted
5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I think what's most annoying about this type of propaganda is just how fucking lazy it is.

This.  It's just Looch

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42 minutes ago, locodos said:

Lil Jon What GIFs | Tenor

More Trump votes = more Trump votes.  I get the improved percentage (hopefully that carries over to other more left leaning districts)   What I want to hear is >50%D and low voter engagement in strong R districts

So my precinct had a turnout of 8k in 2020, at a percentage of 60% Republican, or 4800 votes.  If we pick up 5 percent that's 400 votes, just my precinct.  I live in a district with close to 200k votes.  2020 the totals were approximately 120k votes, if we cut in 5 points its 110k votes, negating the state total by 10k.  That's a big deal.  

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29 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I'm in the sim camp.  Obviously not saying it's a certainty but it should be considered.  Some evidence per googles/AI:

Some evidence that suggests we might be living in a simulation includes: 
 
 
  • Simulation argument
    Philosopher Nick Bostrom's statistical argument suggests that we are likely living in a simulation. 
     
     
  • Laws of physics
    The laws of physics that govern the universe may resemble computer code. 
     
     
  • Missing aliens
    If aliens are more technologically advanced than us, then the fact that we haven't found them could be evidence of a simulation. 
     
     
  • DNA and computer code
    Researchers have been able to embed malicious computer code into DNA strands. 
     
     
  • Second Law of Infodynamics
    University of Portsmouth scientist Melvin Vopson uses this law to argue that the universe's decrease in entropy over time could indicate a digital nature. 
     
     
  • Quantum mechanics
    The strange and unpredictable behavior of subatomic particles could be due to glitches in a simulation. 
     
     
  • Fine-tuning of physical constants
    The values of fundamental physical constants, like the speed of light, seem to be precisely tuned for life in our universe, similar to how parameters are set in simulations. 
     
     
  • Computational limits
    There may be limits to how finely we can measure space and time, which could be because we live in a simulation with a finite resolution. 
     
     
 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

 

11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I think what's most annoying about this type of propaganda is just how fucking lazy it is.

That's actually what kinda cracks me up.  It's just lazy, recycled propaganda, almost word-for-word from January of 2017:

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Spicer, who served as President Trump’s first press secretary, got off to a rough start with reporters when he falsely claimed the crowd gathered at the 2017 inauguration was “the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe.”

They just say wackadoo shit, that's not just a lie, but is the actual total opposite of the truth....and I still think he has a 50/50 shot of winning this thing.  It's fucking maddening.

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