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On 1/28/2025 at 9:58 AM, Drew said:

...we'll see how the staff fills out.

yeah I’m interested to see who schotty picks for his staff. 

these are important decisions for a head coach. 

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26 minutes ago, futureman said:

yeah I’m interested to see who schotty picks for his staff. 

these are important decisions for a head coach. 

Brian Belichick, Nate Carroll, Brennan Carroll, Marcus Lewis, Britt Reid, Miles Smith, Nathaniel Hackett

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22 hours ago, Drew said:

I have the sneaking suspicion that the Cowboys are really going to try and make some splashes this offseason.

Last years offseason was the most apathetic I ever felt. The whole "All In" BS, followed by a decent, not great draft, and then the worst FA period i've ever seen in my life, even for the Cowboys...it makes me think they were literally sabotaging McCarthy's last year. 

They'll want to do the opposite this year...to prove they were right to Hire Schot, and may actually make some trades/signings to improve the team.

Just enough to reel us back in again, ugh.

So you're a glass 3/4 full kinda guy.

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2 hours ago, threesheets said:

So you're a glass 3/4 full kinda guy.

Nah not anymore...i'm still pretty apathetic about them.

If they kill Free Agency might perk up a little.

I expect they'll do fine in the draft...even when they take guys we don't like they usually have solid drafts.

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

 

This is going to be a thing all offseason.

The Cowboys will NOT be tanking. They won't be bad enough. Even when dak went down they still stupidly won games.   Unless Dak misses the whole year they're going to be in the playoff hunt or close this year...and as said above, I'm pretty sure the Jones are out to prove everyone esle wrong and will actually do their jobs to improve the team this offseason(we can hope).

On the other side, unless Arch goes out, wins a title, a Heisman, and is the clear cut #1 draft pick, I doubt he declares after this year.  And IF he does his family is too fucking smart to let him go to Dallas.

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On 1/29/2025 at 11:41 AM, Drew said:

I have the sneaking suspicion that the Cowboys are really going to try and make some splashes this offseason.

Last years offseason was the most apathetic I ever felt. The whole "All In" BS, followed by a decent, not great draft, and then the worst FA period i've ever seen in my life, even for the Cowboys...it makes me think they were literally sabotaging McCarthy's last year. 

They'll want to do the opposite this year...to prove they were right to Hire Schot, and may actually make some trades/signings to improve the team.

Just enough to reel us back in again, ugh.

And yet Jerry was apparently completely on board with bringing McCarthy back for 2025.

 

On 1/29/2025 at 12:05 PM, DougO said:

Mike has punted on getting a head coaching job this year and says he is focusing on the 2026 hiring cycle. Seems likely that he wasn't drawing as much enthusiasm as he had though, which isn't really surprising. Maybe another sub-NFL pro league?

It appears obvious that he made the wrong choice in not taking a short term deal to return to Dallas. 

Maybe. But sounds like Jerry low-balled him on salary and contract length and might've been dictating other terms like he had to hire Jason Witten, etc.

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I'll disagree...i'm not sure they were trying that hard to bring him back...they low balled him and dared him to agree to it.

Probably no way to know for sure.

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2 hours ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Cam dressed like a guy with a trustworthy take

Whichever morning sports show he is always on, it's on every morning at the gym.  And every day, the outfits are beyond ridiculous

 

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

And yet Jerry was apparently completely on board with bringing McCarthy back for 2025.

 

Maybe. But sounds like Jerry low-balled him on salary and contract length and might've been dictating other terms like he had to hire Jason Witten, etc.

Well, yeah, that's the only way I would have considered hiring him for another tour, only a short extension. The Witten stuff was just blogger fluff, nothing to it. I'm sure he would be welcome as an entry-level assistant, but I don't see any reality behind making that a requirement. I'm sure that wouldn't even have been a stumbling point for Mike. He wasn't going to be named head coach in waiting by any means. Don't believe all the crapola you read on the internets.

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I think the Cowboys are better off without Mike, and it was always a 50/50 thing with Jerry hiring McCarthy back. If he had agreed to a couple of years at a similar deal he'd still be there. Mike should have taken it, but he thought way to much of his desirability to other teams looking for head coaches. He seems to have forgotten the league wasn't exactly begging Mike to be their head coach before he joined the Cowboys. He was off in his re-tread think-tank trying to learn modern football.

At this point, though it would have been nice to hit a home run hire somehow, I think the Cowboys are better off going with Schottenheimer and some new blood on the staff, as underwhelming as it may seem. It is probably a  small step in the right direction.

I'm interested in seeing the terms of Shott's deal. I wouldn't bet on it being 5 years or at much better than average salary for a head coach. Probably has maybe three years to prove something that wouldn't be that tough for the Cowboys to get out of.

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13 hours ago, DougO said:

I may have miscounted by one or two, but by this source I count 14 head coaches that were calling the plays going into 2024. Offensive coordinators called plays for 18 teams. It's not unusual. Whether it's a good idea or not is debatable. But some very good head coaches that are good at it seem to get their teams in the playoffs fairly regularly. For some teams the head coach is the real OC with a proxy up in the booth that they call the OC, which is basically what Schott is, and several others.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41018846/nfl-playcallers-32-teams-mike-mcdaniel-sean-mcvay-nathaniel-hackett

So if we want to find any room for hope in all that, my stance has been that Mike not calling plays next year may not be a bad thing, and we will find out if Brian is better at not only calling the plays, but with his own version of the scheme. Fans often bitched bout McCarthy's play calling. For me it was mostly how bland it was with not enough wrinkles to get receivers more open, give the qb better checkdown options, and open things up for the running game as well. Mike's game management wasn't great, either. Some new blood on the staff might bring a few ideas that Brian may be more open to using. 

We'll just have to see. 

 

The issue with BS isn't calling plays per say, its he's traditionally been a bad play caller too.  Way too conservative with little to no creativity.  He talks a big game but nowhere has he walked a big game.

8 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

He's got the perfect job. Makes good money and truly has zero pressure. Everything that happens is on Jerry so any player, or contact, or deal that is done, even if Will orchestrated it, is on Jerry. Something goes to shit, even if it's Will's fault, goes on Jerry. He'll never get credit for any good that he does, but I'm guessing he's fine just spending Jerry's money and doing the football thing. Where do I sign up. 

He also is a big company guy.  He just came out in praising the HC hire and talking up how having some sense of continuity in the building makes his life easier.  Definitely the type of guy who gets up to EVP who's just a corporate schill while still being pretty decent at his job.

 

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I have the sneaking suspicion that the Cowboys are really going to try and make some splashes this offseason.
Last years offseason was the most apathetic I ever felt. The whole "All In" BS, followed by a decent, not great draft, and then the worst FA period i've ever seen in my life, even for the Cowboys...it makes me think they were literally sabotaging McCarthy's last year. 
They'll want to do the opposite this year...to prove they were right to Hire Schot, and may actually make some trades/signings to improve the team.
Just enough to reel us back in again, ugh.

This post deserves a future man STFU drew.
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18 hours ago, WineGuy69 said:

Every time I see him I think to myself, "Who let Willy Wonka on TV"?

"Why is Andre 3000 on ESPN talking football?" - Katfid

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13 hours ago, markstanco said:


This post deserves a future man STFU drew.

Cool.  It was just a thought and i've seen others say something similar.  But cool.  Ya'll just can't take anything but the group think here, as usual.

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Seems like a very Eberflus driven staff. I guess he's the the next man up for cheap head coach with experience.

Heavy OL coaching influence and developing modern run game concepts seems like it has been a major need.

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Tashard Choice

 

 

As a Texas fan I'd hate this, but it would be another really good hire for this Staff.

As much as we hated the HC search process and who they hired...gotta admit the staff is coming together really really well.

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The staff was always the biggest deal. Get more modern, a bit younger, more innovative. Paleostaff is not a great way to go, especially when the head coach isn't particularly brilliant.

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Can we get back to the entire jones family perishing in a yachting accident?  What might the karmic balance be to will something like that into existence, and how much of that balance has already been prepaid over the past 30 years?  TIA. 

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Can we get back to the entire jones family perishing in a yachting accident?  What might the karmic balance be to will something like that into existence, and how much of that balance has already been prepaid over the past 30 years?  TIA. 

Gotta write a big, big check to the Salvation Army.

Personally I think it would be far cheaper, and possibly more effective, to somehow involve Rowdy in some sort of tragic grain silo accident.

 

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21 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Another splash hire

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He's turned around Zona's run game without the benefit of a ton of first round picks (1 Humphries who was probably overdrafted).  This is a good hire for running game specialist. 

 

3 hours ago, Drew said:

Tashard Choice

 

 

As a Texas fan I'd hate this, but it would be another really good hire for this Staff.

As much as we hated the HC search process and who they hired...gotta admit the staff is coming together really really well.

Fuck that.  Choice should stay at Texas if he knows what's best for his career unless the plan has always to go to the pros.  Texas will enjoy success and winning, Dallas will not.  Hope Texas opens up the purse strings a little on this one.

 

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Can we get back to the entire jones family perishing in a yachting accident?  What might the karmic balance be to will something like that into existence, and how much of that balance has already been prepaid over the past 30 years?  TIA. 

Where's Robert Wagner when you need him......

 

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5 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Fuck that.  Choice should stay at Texas if he knows what's best for his career unless the plan has always to go to the pros.  Texas will enjoy success and winning, Dallas will not.  Hope Texas opens up the purse strings a little on this one.

This, prob looking for more $$

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The way the Cowboys have tried to value OL talent has been a major flaw for a long time. They needed to value the unit and their overall depth more, adapt the OL to their schemes, not just plug and play and wonder why it isn't working right. Draft rankings and underwear Olympics don't make a great OL. They just end up with the most expensive OL that breaks down easily.

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On 2/1/2025 at 9:56 AM, Drew said:

Tashard Choice

 

 

As a Texas fan I'd hate this, but it would be another really good hire for this Staff.

As much as we hated the HC search process and who they hired...gotta admit the staff is coming together really really well.

Twitter says they’re also talking to Ra’Shaad Samples who coaches RB at Oregon currently 

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1 hour ago, DougO said:

The way the Cowboys have tried to value OL talent has been a major flaw for a long time. They needed to value the unit and their overall depth more, adapt the OL to their schemes, not just plug and play and wonder why it isn't working right. Draft rankings and underwear Olympics don't make a great OL. They just end up with the most expensive OL that breaks down easily.

The issue hasn’t been drafting but coaching.  They have had shit o line coaches since Columbo left.  No college produces nfl ready o linemen from scheme anymore; it’s like QBs you have to project off tape and workouts.  
development is now a much more important role for coaches.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Nope said:

Twitter says they’re also talking to Ra’Shaad Samples who coaches RB at Oregon currently 

That’s good to hear.  I what a good RH b coach but not at the expense of Texas 

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45 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

The issue hasn’t been drafting but coaching.  They have had shit o line coaches since Columbo left.  No college produces nfl ready o linemen from scheme anymore; it’s like QBs you have to project off tape and workouts.  
development is now a much more important role for coaches.

 

 

Their problem with drafting is that they used too much draft capital on OL which ended up being part of the huge cap issues. They just don't manage it well. They end up being forced to draft for immediate need way too much when they fail to manage the OL ahead of the curve, and also extend questionable players because they lack other options. The better managed teams mine for OL later in the draft and are able to develop them. When you look around the league it's mostly the LT's that are top heavy in high round picks. 

Then you have to have OL types that fit your scheme and what you do. That's one of the ways they underutilize their talent, high draft rankings but not good unit fits. It's both coaching and drafting. But the better teams always seem to be able to cobble together solid OL units with far less spent on players other than the LT. 

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8 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Pretty sure Jerry will be happy as fuck for a while. Luka trade makes him look like a genius.

 

 

He should make Luka an honorary Cowboy like Cuban did for Romo.

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The website are saying miles Garrett is 4-1 to go to Cowboys.  Uhh his statement said he wanted to go to an immediate contender.  Dallas is basically a lateral move from the Browns, but with a nicer stadium.

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1 hour ago, Texzilla58 said:

The website are saying miles Garrett is 4-1 to go to Cowboys.  Uhh his statement said he wanted to go to an immediate contender.  Dallas is basically a lateral move from the Browns, but with a nicer stadium.

I thought this was interesting in the sense that they could sign him instead of parsons and save $

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8 minutes ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

I thought this was interesting in the sense that they could sign him instead of parsons and save $

He's also 3.5 years older..... Be 30 by next playoffs.  You'd miss the last years of Micah's prime and still be on the hook for a ton of money.  Garrett is the type of guy you get if you're 1 player away..... Dallas is more like 21 players away.

 

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