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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

As a practical matter, short of calling for an armed uprising there isn't much the Democratic party can do other than throw sand in the gears of government and pound the table to try and draw attention to all the worst shit Trump/Elon are doing. Hell, the MSM is still barely covering Elon's coup. So yeah, they need to come up with something that resonates just to get the media to actually cover this shit.

And, I think some of it is going to have to wait a few weeks or months until inflation is unimproved, or worse.

 A lot of people don't understand the Elmo problem, don't care, or actually think shredding government is good (it might actually be if everyone left wasn't a toady).

But when all of Trump's campaign promises turn out to be bullshit, especially the economic ones, they can hammer him with:

Trump promised you lower prices and no P2025.  Well, you got higher prices and P2025.  And a bunch of stupid shit like Greenland, Panama, etc.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

And, I think some of it is going to have to wait a few weeks or months until inflation is unimproved, or worse.

 A lot of people don't understand the Elmo problem, don't care, or actually think shredding government is good (it might actually be if everyone left wasn't a toady).

But when all of Trump's campaign promises turn out to be bullshit, especially the economic ones, they can hammer him with:

Trump promised you lower prices and no P2025.  Well, you got higher prices and P2025.  And a bunch of stupid shit like Greenland, Panama, etc.

Within a couple of months, these complaints will seem quaint. These assholes are so reckless I wouldn't be surprised if they start crashing (more) planes any moment now.

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3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Let's not ascribe more power to our enemy than he already has.  Even though Elmo and tfg are fuck ups, that doesn't mean their security are fuck ups too.  

But more than that, never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.  They both continue to do things that benefit Russia and China - namely, fucking up America.  So there's currently no need for him to do so.  Even if he could, and it would pain him not to do so if we continue to support Ukraine, he won't because the fuckups those two are committing are bigger than just Ukraine.  

 

Trump barely listens to his security.  Or they're awful - likely a combo.  Look at the bozo who climbed up on a shed in broad daylight to set up shop before shooting at his fat head.  I would bet absolutely anything if Putin put all his resources to sleeping either clown, he could easily do it.  I'm not talking something causing mass casualties either.  

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Within a couple of months, these complaints will seem quaint. These assholes are so reckless I wouldn't be surprised if they start crashing (more) planes any moment now.

100%.  

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Within a couple of months, these complaints will seem quaint. These assholes are so reckless I wouldn't be surprised if they start crashing (more) planes any moment now.

Possibly right.  I think it might take some more time before the current bullshit really starts to hit people "where they live." 

One kind of interesting thing is that the "deport criminals" seems to resonate, but maybe not deport law-abiding workers.  So that might be a fruitful line of attack.  I think immigration and the economy were the big things Ds lost on.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Possibly right.  I think it might take some more time before the current bullshit really starts to hit people "where they live."

At the rate things are going, it will be far too late.

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1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Trump barely listens to his security.  Or they're awful - likely a combo.  Look at the bozo who climbed up on a shed in broad daylight to set up shop before shooting at his fat head.  I would bet absolutely anything if Putin put all his resources to sleeping either clown, he could easily do it.  I'm not talking something causing mass casualties either.  

I don't feel like this is really much of a refutation.  I mean, you're not wrong, tfg is an idoit who puts himself in compromising situations all the time.  Literally.  

Yet at the same time, Putin has thrown his eggs in the Ukraine basket.  My guess is a significant number of his operatives have been whacked both in and out of Ukraine, by Ukraine. 

So maybe, if Putin decided to really focus himself on it, he could get tfg killed. But again, why would he?  He's getting what he wants now.  Anyone who replaced him, sans Elmo would be an improvement.  Nah.  He don't want that.

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4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

At the rate things are going, it will be far too late.

Sure it will, and well-deserved.  But as far as Ds starting up messaging for midterms and later, they're probably going to have a goldmine of shit to attack.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Possibly right.  I think it might take some more time before the current bullshit really starts to hit people "where they live." 

One kind of interesting thing is that the "deport criminals" seems to resonate, but maybe not deport law-abiding workers.  So that might be a fruitful line of attack.  I think immigration and the economy were the big things Ds lost on.

Is Congress going to bring the defeated immigration bill back up for Trump to pass and take credit for?  Or a right wing version only version?  I thought the border was a crisis.  

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Sure it will, and well-deserved.  But as far as Ds starting up messaging for midterms and later, they're probably going to have a goldmine of shit to attack.

Will anyone care? In a sane world, J6, P2025, etc., would have sunk any candidate and turned off the vast majority of voters. He got MORE votes after all of that.

Trump could start WWIII and all he'll need to do is run some ads in October about the LGTBQ cabal and the American people will fall in line.

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3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Will anyone care? In a sane world, J6, P2025, etc., would have sunk any candidate and turned off the vast majority of voters. He got MORE votes after all of that.

Trump could start WWIII and all he'll need to do is run some ads in October about the LGTBQ cabal and the American people will fall in line.

His base, no.  But, I think we have to admit that Ds lost a "convinceable middle" who aren't very engaged and D messaging didn't hit them right, plus incumbency.

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53 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Are you under the impression Chinese intelligence is having a copy of the NYT delivered so they can get the scoop?

“Ah sooo… Dems in disarray!”

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Kristi walks a difficult tight rope: explaining why we are deporting the Venezuelans who fled their repressive authoritarian country, while still keeping her Trump family dick sucking mouth position in the “available” position.

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Political violence including riots have to be soon to follow, right? A part of me thinks that we’re going to go out with a whimper with nary a protest. What else is there to do? National strike?

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40 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

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Kristi walks a difficult tight rope: explaining why we are deporting the Venezuelans who fled their repressive authoritarian country, while still keeping her Trump family dick sucking mouth position in the “available” position.

Have seen similar mouths in the fishing thread. 

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45 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Political violence including riots have to be soon to follow, right? A part of me thinks that we’re going to go out with a whimper with nary a protest. What else is there to do? National strike?

Riots aren't going to do shit at this point. Trump could fully send in the military with all guns blazing and a large portion of our country would cheer it at this point. It ain't getting done in the courts and it's definitely not getting done in congress.

 

I fear we have but one option left....

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean....seriously....let's break that down.

1) The CIA LITERALLY created a list of every person the agency hired in the past two years.  A list.  Of all of them.

2) It then sent that list....via fucking EMAIL....to the White House.

 

Think of all the movies and TV shows you've seen built around the plot device of there being a list of US spies/assets, stored on a thumb drive or somesuch, which was much sought after by our enemies, and the hero had to chase down and secure "the list" before it fell into the wrong hands.

Today?  The administration just types up the list, and sends it via unsecured email.  Which can be hacked by every single foreign state that exists.  For fuck's sake, I bet even Vanuatu has someone capable of hacking fucking email accounts.

Yes, the adults are DEFINITELY in charge now.

Jesus tittyfucking Christ.

But Hillary hosted emails on a private server. Game, set, match!

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If people have jobs still, there will be no riots. The avg American doesn’t have time for all of this shit, even though it affects them. They will get up, go to work, bitch and moan and then go watch TV.

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If all they are going to do is extend the tax cuts, that would be a relief. That is pretty weak sauce shit. WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED AT...MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO!!!

Anyway this is why I don't protest. It just makes them happy.

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30 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

If all they are going to do is extend the tax cuts, that would be a relief. That is pretty weak sauce shit. WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED AT...MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO!!!

Anyway this is why I don't protest. It just makes them happy.

I just hope every single eligible voter out there voted this election. Some people like activism until it comes down to the actual time to activate your voice. If those that get shit on in Texas would get off their asses and fucking vote, we wouldn’t be getting shit on in Texas, imo. 

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10 minutes ago, Underdog said:

The Cornyn Family brisket… 

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I bet his wife uses liquid smoke to make that “brisket” I bet he wears panties in the bedroom too, NTTAWWT. 

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55 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Riots aren't going to do shit at this point. Trump could fully send in the military with all guns blazing and a large portion of our country would cheer it at this point. It ain't getting done in the courts and it's definitely not getting done in congress.

 

I fear we have but one option left....

 

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So I thought my local Whole Foods being out of eggs was just the local store. 
 

For some reason, I’ve fully bought in on the egg crisis when I saw no eggs (and a sign!) at Costco. That means this is serious.

And I eat 30 eggs a week. 

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weak sauce big John 🙄 i'd happily trade the last two weeks for tax cuts for the rich 🤣

but i suspect that's the whole point.

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So I thought my local Whole Foods being out of eggs was just the local store. 
 
For some reason, I’ve fully bought in on the egg crisis when I saw no eggs (and a sign!) at Costco. That means this is serious.
And I eat 30 eggs a week. 

You ATE 30 eggs a week.

Literally just got back from buying eggs at the Tom Thumb and there’s a “we ain’t got x y z because bird flu and other shit” sign on the eggs coolers. That may not be word for word, but you get it.
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51 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

and then go watch TV.

DISH wouldn't come down enough when I had my yearly nearly 50 percent increase haggle. Cut it and as you mentioned, don't have time to put it on for background noise anyway. Two weeks or so to get adjusted, don't miss it 

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1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Political violence including riots have to be soon to follow, right? A part of me thinks that we’re going to go out with a whimper with nary a protest. What else is there to do? National strike?

*looks up from TikTok* what did you say? 

Ugh 2 seconds of words?

*back to TikTok*

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11 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


You ATE 30 eggs a week.

Literally just got back from buying eggs at the Tom Thumb and there’s a “we ain’t got x y z because bird flu and other shit” sign on the eggs coolers. That may not be word for word, but you get it.

Eat? Yes

 

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22 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So I thought my local Whole Foods being out of eggs was just the local store. 
 

For some reason, I’ve fully bought in on the egg crisis when I saw no eggs (and a sign!) at Costco. That means this is serious.

And I eat 30 eggs a week. 

 

you can check what's in stock through the costco app. i hope they have a limit on people 

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41 minutes ago, Constant said:

I just hope every single eligible voter out there voted this election. Some people like activism until it comes down to the actual time to activate your voice. If those that get shit on in Texas would get off their asses and fucking vote, we wouldn’t be getting shit on in Texas, imo. 

It drives me fucking crazy how you will have these terminally online people who talk to me about politics and their whole damn identity is politics yet won't vote most of the time. Like WTF? I hate politics and I vote in every election.

Generally I hate talking about it, I just post here when shit is so insane I have to come here to cope.

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7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

you can check what's in stock through the costco app. i hope they have a limit on people 

6 eggs today. I feel like someone is going to break down my door to steal the eggs I have. I need to stop giving them away, but I have too many. It costs very little to redneck a coop and buy some pullets. Fuck HOA rules as well. Everyone should be doing it. It takes very little effort.

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2 hours ago, Underdog said:

Have seen similar mouths in the fishing thread. 

She also looks like she's crowing "Beck ay" in her biggest valley girl caterwaul

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45 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


You ATE 30 eggs a week.

Literally just got back from buying eggs at the Tom Thumb and there’s a “we ain’t got x y z because bird flu and other shit” sign on the eggs coolers. That may not be word for word, but you get it.

Next time take a sharpie (no don't stick it up your ass) and cross out bird flu and write Trump.

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I thought this was interesting. This is a maga person’s response to a republican wondering why Trump sounds a lot like Putin in wanting to invade Greenland, Canada, Panama….

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Hey just saw this on a friends post - ??

In the interest of pointing out misinformation.  In Dec 2023 there was a decision by the World Court, that gave water above land shelves to those countries and ruled they were not international water.  The renaming of the Gulf of America isn't renaming the whole gulf.  It is renaming the area above our land shelves as our territory.  You can't exactly put signs or border walls in the middle of the ocean.  So for legal reasons, we need to identify these new changes on the map, so that new borders are made clear to maritime traffic.  Those new maps will set the latitude and longitudes of where our border begins, or the Gulf of America. So all maritime traffic knows when they are leaving international waters.  This is where knowing what is happening in the world, will help you filter out drama, and help you understand the legalities in your own country.  This had nothing to do with Trump's ego, he is strengthening our borders and making sure all maritime traffic understands the changes that happened in 2023.  Putting legal protections in place to help us enforce any military actions or incursion in the future.  Betting most of you never realized the US grew by thousands of miles. 

Likewise some of this radical idea of buying Greenland and possibly Canada. has nothing to do with his ego.  That has to do with the race for minerals in the Arctic Ocean, protecting our borders,  and getting us the legal right to help Europe protect their borders from the Russian and Chinese fleets that have been doing damage to infrastructure.   If Greenland is the territory of the US, but still their own country like Puerto Rico, then we have the legal right to have a base there and the legal right to protect the waters around Greenland.  The whole premise right now, if we were to go help Europe it would trigger an act of war. We would have to wait for Nato action to do anything.  If we have the legal right, to be there. Legal right to protect Greenland, then any response to defend our territory is not considered an act of war.  It makes it easier to help our Allies.  Also, like as not, Russia and China have been making plans to invade Greenland.  I have been hearing they are trying to buy up land around harbors in several countries or eyeing what they can take by force.   

So Trump is not crazy. Not being an egotistical dictator.  He is trying to strengthen the U.S.  and working to provide some checks and balances that strengthen our ability to help Allies and prevent another world war.  A lot of countries are getting we are the lesser of the two evils.  Media not so much, they have grown allergic to fact-checking, and understanding any complex issue and just become about stirring drama rather than reporting facts, all of the facts.

And we want the Panama Canal back. It should never have been given away. I was very young when Carter did that, but I knew what he did was unmistakably wrong.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

6 eggs today. I feel like someone is going to break down my door to steal the eggs I have. I need to stop giving them away, but I have too many. It costs very little to redneck a coop and buy some pullets. Fuck HOA rules as well. Everyone should be doing it. It takes very little effort.

Loved having chickens. 3-5 fed us very well. Hopefully the feed doesn’t jump in price too badly.  Don’t have enough yard space anymore to give them a few hundred square ft to roam. 
 

and tractor supply has their prefab coops on sale often, if spending  a little cash for something that is nice and quick assembly suits someone more than rednecking it with pallets and boards or whatever. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Goofyboy said:

If people have jobs still, there will be no riots. The avg American doesn’t have time for all of this shit, even though it affects them. They will get up, go to work, bitch and moan and then go watch TV.

Bread and circuses.

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11 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I think he means past tense. You used to eat that many eggs, not anymore 

 

No I still do…

 

Well I can’t now because we have no eggs in America #trumpeggcrisis

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I will give a whack at disputing it.  

When Gingrich became speaker, he told told every republican congressman not to argue policy with their Democratic opponents, but to demonize their opponent as bad people: enemies of the country who wanted to hurt the country with their policies - that they were socialist communist liberals who were against God and American values.

That was a very effective strategy for the next 30 years.   Because dems telling Bubba that they are NOT a godless atheist socialist will not win the day.  It’s like the LBJ story about how he told his political advisor to spread the story that his opponent was having sex with barnyard animals.  When they told LBJ that it wasn’t true, LBJ said “Who cares? let’s get the son of a bitch to deny it!”  So debate content was no longer about issues so much as it was about God and country and “family values”

And people like Karl Rove perfected the art by having wedge issues like burning the American flag become pivotal in an election.   The Republican senators and congressman knew that the first amendment gave you that right, exactly the same right as standing on a soapbox and saying, “ I disagree with my countries long-standing racism”, or “ this country sucks because our foreign policy is literally killing people who are innocent.”    Republicans back then knew that the liberal position was true, but they also knew it was not politically effective to agree with supporting the constitution when Bubba wants to beat up the guy who would burn the flag.     It was brilliant, because taking the mature responsible position on preserving our constitutional liberties will get your ass defeated in an election.

The second thing that the Democrats were not responsible for is Rush Limbaugh and the advent of conservative drive time talk radio, and Fox News becoming what it is.     You are blaming the Democrats for not being effective communicators when the other half of the country are sworn to not listen to Democrats or any news that Democrats might be on, because it is “fake news”.     The active communication you blame democrats for failing requires two parties, one of whom agrees to listen to the other person communicating an idea.  They don’t do that.  In fact, listening to the other side or reading something from the other side’s news source is an act of treason that is against your team.   

The other problem is that there are numerous studies showing that people on the right embrace black-and-white simplistic ideology.   They have no time to learn why the Middle East is not all Arabs, but also Persians.  They have no interest in learning about Sunni and Shia and Wahabism - they are much more receptive to “bomb the desert into glass”, and “ make Gaza a beachside resort”.    

The short way to put it is that nuance and complexity is not something they have an interest in.   That is why “drain the swamp” has such an appeal. that is the only thing they need to learn to say. They don’t even have to know how to explain it to someone. 

There are other tangential issues like diminishing education, a total lack of emphasis on critical thinking and the liberal arts (the biggest sin being the word “liberal”, which does not mean what Cletus thinks it means).

The other thing is the rise of the toxic fundamentalist evangelical Christian community, and their desire to push theology over secular debate on issues.    If the magic sky fairy du jour tells you what rules to put on in vitro fertilization legislation, who are mere mortal democrats to oppose that?

The more the GOP took the low road the more successful they were.  I do not know when it happened, but we reached a tipping point.  We should’ve seen snowbilly Palin‘s popularity as the canery in the coal mine.  But alas, what she was selling is exactly what the voting population wanted. If the economic crisis of 2008 had not happened, McCain would’ve likely won.   

Finally, I’m not saying Democrats don’t have a lot of old and new feet wounds from their shooting.   But I disagree that they could overcome those other factors.  and I did not even go on a tirade against social media, another huge promoter of tribe thinking.

TL;DR

Apparently, we get the country we deserve.

Smart people are smart. Nice.

 

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