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3 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If you picked up the Founding Fathers in a time machine and brought them to present day, it would take about 5 minutes of deliberation for them to tar & feather and string up Trump. 

 

 

Eh they may tar and feather and string him up simply for what a douchebag he is but, and you don't have to agree with this guy, he does bring up some interesting points with respect to what he calls the "trap" of invoking the founders/framers in today's present set of circumstances (never mind the fact that well before they got to the later comment about a black man being president the technology of the present day would likely give them a coronary from the shock of it all if they were just dropped into it)

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Well that seems ok.  More to the point, how many swastikas and nooses are making appearances in the Coast Guard that this needed to be addressed?  

It’s probably more so they can hire Nazis into the coast guard 

Posted
39 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I've said before, the only way this ends other than him keeling over from a Big Mac is for him to issue an illegal order to the military and for the Generals to say no and to detain him for violating his oath of office.

There is 0% of this happening. I’ve heard from friends in the military that certain sr leaders are saying Trump’s SCOTUS immunity case means that he is incapable of giving an “illegal order”, and ipso facto, smash the murder button. 

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Immune from consequences doesn’t make it legal. People being granted immunity for testimony doesn’t make their deeds now legal. 

Exactly.  And POTUS may have that immunity, but the rest of em don't.

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Immune from consequences doesn’t make it legal. People being granted immunity for testimony doesn’t make their deeds now legal. 

Oh I know. I didn’t say it was correct, but rather just pointing out how scary it is within parts of the military that they will literally do/justify anything 

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39 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Well that seems ok.  More to the point, how many swastikas and nooses are making appearances in the Coast Guard that this needed to be addressed?  

Well, I'm thinking that after today....more will. 

This is 100% so the military can recruit and sign on open white supremacists and nazis.  Hell, they're gonna turn this movie image into a recruiting poster:

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...both because it's nazi, AND because it's somewhat homoerotic, and thus falls entirely into Hegseth's wheelhouse.

Next Coast Guard operation name: "Operation Turgid Rod"

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10 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Oh I know. I didn’t say it was correct, but rather just pointing out how scary it is within parts of the military that they will literally do/justify anything 

I still have some hope that at the highest levels there is sufficient devotion to the job that they would reject blatantly illegal orders and as has been said immunity doesn't make it lawful which in some respects should weigh towards refusing to follow the illegal order because once it's been acted upon yeah the president is then likely immune from murder charges while the soldiers might not be. It's a small hope but more hope than anything else, including that I have zero hope whatsoever that the electorate in this stupid fucking country will do anything to end this bullshit. A few elections here and there and polls mean jack shit, especially after 2024.

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It's somewhat believable when the Dems are in the majority.   But they are not, and who are we kidding, there are people that will take out a 3rd mortgage to fork over some cash:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

It's somewhat believable when the Dems are in the majority.   But they are not, and who are we kidding, there are people that will take out a 3rd mortgage to fork over some cash:

 

 

 

 

dig deep, people.

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7 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

It's somewhat believable when the Dems are in the majority.   But they are not, and who are we kidding, there are people that will take out a 3rd mortgage to fork over some cash:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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*Americans’

* ring the bells (guessing at this one)

*candidate’s authorized (this one really hurts to read- authorised’s?  Really?

Posted
3 hours ago, bluto said:

 

 


if I was able to bet on it, I’d put my money on the house doing this as retribution for not amending the Epstein bill. 

It’s more proof this is all a work to people like Johnson

 

let’s pass the bill “unanimously” wink wink. Then those gosh darn Senators go and put some gall dern amendments in and now aren’t we in a pickle!

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11 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I’m amazed the rubes have any money left to give.  He’s been milking those stupid cows for a decade now.  They’re probably taking out payday loans to send him money these days.

Those rubes aren't the ones wagering. It's people here. 

Posted
Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Those rubes aren't the ones wagering. It's people here. 

Donating to politicians might as well be wagering for all the rich returns you get, but not exactly the same thing.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Donating to politicians might as well be wagering for all the rich returns you get, but not exactly the same thing.

Yeah, that's not gambling/wagering. That's just straight up bribery. 

Posted
6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

And the Senate is supposed to be the more mature legislative body.

but i had already spent the money on upgrades to my non-gay grotto!

-lindsey graham, probably

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Posted
4 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If you picked up the Founding Fathers in a time machine and brought them to present day, it would take about 5 minutes of deliberation for them to tar & feather and string up Trump. 

Sure.  But they'd also look around and ask, "Why do so many black people own homes, have jobs, and vote?"

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

I still have some hope that at the highest levels there is sufficient devotion to the job that they would reject blatantly illegal orders and as has been said immunity doesn't make it lawful which in some respects should weigh towards refusing to follow the illegal order because once it's been acted upon yeah the president is then likely immune from murder charges while the soldiers might not be. It's a small hope but more hope than anything else, including that I have zero hope whatsoever that the electorate in this stupid fucking country will do anything to end this bullshit. A few elections here and there and polls mean jack shit, especially after 2024.

*Laughs in Gen. Flynn*

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Some good news.

Not sure about the Supreme Court case, but it is pretty clear that the factual predicates for ICE violence in Chicago are bullshit.

But this indicates that the charges will be dismissed against Marimar Martinez, who they shot, and Anthony Ruiz, who was also arrested.

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

It's somewhat believable when the Dems are in the majority.   But they are not, and who are we kidding, there are people that will take out a 3rd mortgage to fork over some cash:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Maybe I’m giving the Dems too much credit, but could the video to the military on illegal orders finally be the Dems playing offense and poking the bear to get a rise out of Dotard?  
 

That video wasn’t reactionary to a specific event but rather just an amalgamation of shit the last 10 months, they had to know they’d get a reaction. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, 'stache said:

I still have some hope that at the highest levels there is sufficient devotion to the job that they would reject blatantly illegal orders and as has been said immunity doesn't make it lawful which in some respects should weigh towards refusing to follow the illegal order because once it's been acted upon yeah the president is then likely immune from murder charges while the soldiers might not be. It's a small hope but more hope than anything else, including that I have zero hope whatsoever that the electorate in this stupid fucking country will do anything to end this bullshit. A few elections here and there and polls mean jack shit, especially after 2024.

I not only have that hope, I'm actually confident of it. The typical high-ranking military officer is very well educated (unlike Trump), with multiple master's degrees, and is steeped in military history, international affairs, and all manner of other leadership, ethics, legal, philosophical, strategy & tactics, and other training. They're serious professionals who take their oaths seriously. Of course there are always exceptions, but I believe this to be true of the overwhelming majority.

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16 minutes ago, wood said:

I not only have that hope, I'm actually confident of it. The typical high-ranking military officer is very well educated (unlike Trump), with multiple master's degrees, and is steeped in military history, international affairs, and all manner of other leadership, ethics, legal, philosophical, strategy & tactics, and other training. They're serious professionals who take their oaths seriously. Of course there are always exceptions, but I believe this to be true of the overwhelming majority.

I feel the exact same way and I’m a firm believer that no one else is going to do jack shit about all this. 

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19 minutes ago, wood said:

I not only have that hope, I'm actually confident of it. The typical high-ranking military officer is very well educated (unlike Trump), with multiple master's degrees, and is steeped in military history, international affairs, and all manner of other leadership, ethics, legal, philosophical, strategy & tactics, and other training. They're serious professionals who take their oaths seriously. Of course there are always exceptions, but I believe this to be true of the overwhelming majority.

Hasn't he purged a bunch of the high-ranking officers that might have been that stop-gap?

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Just now, C-Man said:

Hasn't he purged a bunch of the high-ranking officers that might have been that stop-gap?

Yep, but I would think there are still a lot around who have been smart enough not to wear their hearts on their sleeves and get shitcanned. But who knows ...



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