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Death panels - check
Jade Helm - check
Billionaires buying votes and influence - check
Raising taxes on low/mid classes - check
Massive increase in national debt - check
Playing golf all the time - check
Tan suit -

What else did Obama do?

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The juice isn't worth the squeeze here but dotard isn't known as some brilliant politico.  Even at his most popular he has real issues helping with seats in congress.  In 18 months if he keeps this shit up, and you know he will, he's gonna lose in a big way.  Much of this is going on because dumbass congress has numbers in his favor.  So yes this sucks, but imo it's for the greater good.  I just hope the damage is limited and the good guys stay peaceful.  

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The juice isn't worth the squeeze here but dotard isn't known as some brilliant politico.  Even at his most popular he has real issues helping with seats in congress.  In 18 months if he keeps this shit up, and you know he will, he's gonna lose in a big way.  Much of this is going on because dumbass congress has numbers in his favor.  So yes this sucks, but imo it's for the greater good.  I just hope the damage is limited and the good guys stay peaceful.  

ICE being deployed to election sites and arresting anyone who looks a bit brown will be in play.
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2 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:


ICE being deployed to election sites and arresting anyone who looks a bit brown will be in play.

No doubt, but again...in the end this just pisses off and mobilizes the masses.  His moves will get out the vote from a lot more people that vote against him.  This country has shown a million times they're much happier voting against something/someone vs FOR something/someone.  Like obama being black motivated the right.  

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Just now, Underdog said:

Elections… that’s cute. 

LOL, anyone who thinks he is going to stop congressional elections in 2026 is off their rocker.  There will be attempted fuckery but the adults stepped up in the last round of elections too.  

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Just now, Incredulity said:

Unsurprisingly y’all know jackshit about the history of property law and why this country was founded.

 

 

Chris took a wrong turn? 

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Lol, I’m pretty sure I spent an entire evening trying to explain the historical basis of property law to incredulity before and he literally couldn’t understand it.

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Will it be counted? 

Who is going to be counting? Big ballz?

—2024, Putin won 87.8% of the vote, the highest ever result in Russia's post-Soviet history
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Unsurprisingly y’all know jackshit about the history of property law and why this country was founded.
 
 

The Declaration of Independence doesn't mention property rights…
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1 minute ago, Fastbreak said:


Who is going to be counting? Big ballz?

—2024, Putin won 87.8% of the vote, the highest ever result in Russia's post-Soviet history

States control elections and there hadn't been any states even Republican ones that were fucked.

Don't be a bitch trump won fair and square in 2024, likely because Elon stepped up when his funding was completely gone. He is fucked. 

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4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Unsurprisingly y’all know jackshit about the history of property law and why this country was founded.

 

 

Country founded on the basis of enslaving people. Maybe we should think for ourselves instead letting a bunch of dead guys from 300 years ago do it.

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22 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

The juice isn't worth the squeeze here but dotard isn't known as some brilliant politico.  Even at his most popular he has real issues helping with seats in congress.  In 18 months if he keeps this shit up, and you know he will, he's gonna lose in a big way.  Much of this is going on because dumbass congress has numbers in his favor.  So yes this sucks, but imo it's for the greater good.  I just hope the damage is limited and the good guys stay peaceful.  

Anyone on Nov 7th that was hoping we could "run out the clock" on this asshole has been proven wrong, wrong, wrong.

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7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Unsurprisingly y’all know jackshit about the history of property law and why this country was founded.

Do you really think this country was founded on the notion that the average man should own property?

Also, do you really think the ability of average people to own property is distinctly American?

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Just now, David Dennison said:

Do you really think this country was founded on the notion that the average man should own property?

Also, do you really think the ability of average people to own property is distinctly American?

You already know the answer. 

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8 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Anyone on Nov 7th that was hoping we could "run out the clock" on this asshole has been proven wrong, wrong, wrong.

Really?  What do you think is going to happen that will throw this country into a full blown anarchy between now and 18 mo from now?  I'm not saying it will be easy or comfortable but I'm saying we aren't going to be a dictatorship in 18mo.  Sorry but people that throw their hands up and think along those lines are only encouraging those that won't get out and vote just thinking, 'what's the point?'.  Nah, fuck all that bullshit. 

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13 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Unsurprisingly y’all know jackshit about the history of property law and why this country was founded.

 

 

Good grief.  We've gone from show some sympathy to the poor insurance companies to, "I'm not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the Unites States of America.  GENTLEMEN!!!"

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1 hour ago, Bama Llama said:

JFK and RFK (Sr) had the good sense to choreograph the play with Wallace when sending the Guard and Nicholas Katzenbach into Tuscaloosa just about exactly 63 years ago this week.  I clearly remember the choppers buzzing overhead and 1.5 ton troop trucks rumbling up and down the streets beside my house.  I don’t see any choreography going on here.  FUBAR quotient is high.

Can you explain what the heck you are saying?

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3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Can you explain what the heck you are saying?

He's saying thankfully the assholes aren't organized with a cogent plan this time.  At least that's what I think he's saying. 

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18 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Unsurprisingly y’all know jackshit about the history of property law and why this country was founded.

OMG, we should totally enforce 18th century property law y’all!

Were you homeschooled by morons or are you a self-made dipshit?

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37 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

Death panels - check
Jade Helm - check
Billionaires buying votes and influence - check
Raising taxes on low/mid classes - check
Massive increase in national debt - check
Playing golf all the time - check
Tan suit -

What else did Obama do?

 

 

obama wore a tan suit >>> led to trump tearing this nation down 

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

1. Complete disregard for the Constitution.  CHECK

2.  Suspension of habeus corpus.  CHECK

3.  Largest data breach in the history of mankind.  CHECK

Call me nuts, but I would rather not see everything go full Thunderdome before we can say "See, now it's really bad."

There's not a complete disregard for the constitution.  He's trying to disregard it, sure.  Sorry, I'm not, 'oh no, the republic is toast'.  It's really shitty and it can be beat.  I'm not saying it's not really bad either - look what you said and what I responded to.  I am simply saying we vote a LOT of this asshole's power away in 18 months. 

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9 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Good grief.  We've gone from show some sympathy to the poor insurance companies to, "I'm not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the Unites States of America.  GENTLEMEN!!!"

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It’s not my problem you have the reading comprehension of a preschooler

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1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

There's not a complete disregard for the constitution.  He's trying to disregard it, sure.  Sorry, I'm not, 'oh no, the republic is toast'.  It's really shitty and it can be beat.  I'm not saying it's not really bad either - look what you said and what I responded to.  I am simply saying we vote a LOT of this asshole's power away in 18 months. 

I mean disappearing people to foreign countries is blatantly disregarding the constitution. He has shown pretty clearly that our govt and the “rules” are largely antiquated.
I agree with you overall but the cause for concern is real.

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25 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

There's not a complete disregard for the constitution.  He's trying to disregard it, sure.  Sorry, I'm not, 'oh no, the republic is toast'.  It's really shitty and it can be beat.  I'm not saying it's not really bad either - look what you said and what I responded to.  I am simply saying we vote a LOT of this asshole's power away in 18 months. 

Yeah sorry bro. We went from Biden to full Gestapo in 6 months. We are a few judges swinging their dicks around from full capitulation by the judicial AND legislative branches. Let me remind you again that it's only been 6 months. Dude has attacked every institution and ruined 80 year alliances in just 6 months. Now we are wondering what elections will look like 18 months to 3 1/2 years from now? If it continues like it has these first 6 months then there won't be any(at least not real ones). Dude told you that you won't have to worry about anymore elections. Not sure why you won't believe him.

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15 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Yeah sorry bro. We went from Biden to full Gestapo in 6 months. We are a few judges swinging their dicks around from full capitulation by the judicial AND legislative branches. Let me remind you again that it's only been 6 months. Dude has attacked every institution and ruined 80 year alliances in just 6 months. Now we are wondering what elections will look like 18 months to 3 1/2 years from now? If it continues like it has these first 6 months then there won't be any(at least not real ones). Dude told you that you won't have to worry about anymore elections. Not sure why you won't believe him.

Not sure why you do.

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38 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Now we are wondering what elections will look like 18 months to 3 1/2 years from now? If it continues like it has these first 6 months then there won't be any(at least not real ones).

This. Everyone needs to drop the normalcy bias. Assume the worst, and it’s unlikely you’ll be disappointed.

 

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4 hours ago, bolverk said:

Timely interview with a researcher on why well-organized nonviolent resistance proves more effective in countering government forces hellbent on breaking the will of the people.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

WCFIA:  In your co-authored book, “Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict,” you explain clearly why civil resistance campaigns attract more absolute numbers of people — in part it’s because there’s a much lower barrier to participation compared with picking up a weapon. Based on the cases you have studied, what are the key elements necessary for a successful nonviolent campaign?

CHENOWETH:  I think it really boils down to four different things. The first is a large and diverse participation that’s sustained.

The second thing is that [the movement] needs to elicit loyalty shifts among security forces in particular, but also other elites. Security forces are important because they ultimately are the agents of repression, and their actions largely decide how violent the confrontation with — and reaction to — the nonviolent campaign is going to be in the end. But there are other security elites, economic and business elites, state media. There are lots of different pillars that support the status quo, and if they can be disrupted or coerced into noncooperation, then that’s a decisive factor.

The third thing is that the campaigns need to be able to have more than just protests; there needs to be a lot of variation in the methods they use.

The fourth thing is that when campaigns are repressed — which is basically inevitable for those calling for major changes — they don’t either descend into chaos or opt for using violence themselves. If campaigns allow their repression to throw the movement into total disarray or they use it as a pretext to militarize their campaign, then they’re essentially co-signing what the regime wants — for the resisters to play on its own playing field. And they’re probably going to get totally crushed.'

WCFIA: Is there any way to resist or protest without making yourself more vulnerable?

CHENOWETH: People have done things like bang pots and pans or go on electricity strikes or something otherwise disruptive that imposes costs on the regime even while people aren’t outside. Staying inside for an extended period equates to a general strike. Even limited strikes are very effective. There were limited and general strikes in Tunisia and Egypt during their uprisings and they were critical.

WCFIA: A general strike seems like a personally costly way to protest, especially if you just stop working or stop buying things. Why are they effective?

CHENOWETH: This is why preparation is so essential. Where campaigns have used strikes or economic noncooperation successfully, they’ve often spent months preparing by stockpiling food, coming up with strike funds, or finding ways to engage in community mutual aid while the strike is underway. One good example of that comes from South Africa. The anti-apartheid movement organized a total boycott of white businesses, which meant that black community members were still going to work and getting a paycheck from white businesses but were not buying their products. Several months of that and the white business elites were in total crisis. They demanded that the apartheid government do something to alleviate the economic strain. With the rise of the reformist Frederik Willem de Klerk within the ruling party, South African leader P.W. Botha resigned. De Klerk was installed as president in 1989, leading to negotiations with the African National Congress [ANC] and then to free elections, where the ANC won overwhelmingly. The reason I bring the case up is because organizers in the black townships had to prepare for the long term by making sure that there were plenty of food and necessities internally to get people by, and that there were provisions for things like Christmas gifts and holidays.

WCFIA: How important is the overall number of participants in a nonviolent campaign?

CHENOWETH: One of the things that isn’t in our book, but that I analyzed later and presented in a TEDx Boulder talk in 2013, is that a surprisingly small proportion of the population guarantees a successful campaign: just 3.5 percent. That sounds like a really small number, but in absolute terms it’s really an impressive number of people. In the U.S., it would be around 11.5 million people today. Could you imagine if 11.5 million people — that’s about three times the size of the 2017 Women’s March — were doing something like mass noncooperation in a sustained way for nine to 18 months? Things would be totally different in this country.

The admin is absolutely trying to provoke conflict. Immigration is the one issue where they are still above water and the military is one of the few institutions that is still deeply trusted. They are craving images of masked people, maybe waving foreign flags, in a conflict with uniformed troops.  It’s a provocation. 

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

The ability of average people to own property is distinctly American. 
 

You think the rich depend on insurance as much as average people?
 

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How does that quote go? Better to be silent and though a fool….

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1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

Were you homeschooled by morons or are you a self-made dipshit?

I always assumed incredulity's mom drank like Blutarsky when she was pregnant. 

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19 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Please quit quoting the cocksucker. If everyone ignores his stupidity then he doesnt exist.

You’re going to need to be more specific.

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2 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

LOL, anyone who thinks he is going to stop congressional elections in 2026 is off their rocker.  There will be attempted fuckery but the adults stepped up in the last round of elections too.  

Yeah, he's/they're probably gonna try to keep his/they're powder dry for 2028.  

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

I mean disappearing people to foreign countries is blatantly disregarding the constitution. He has shown pretty clearly that our govt and the “rules” are largely antiquated.
I agree with you overall but the cause for concern is real.

Well, he has been called on it, including by SCOTUS, and before it could finish out and he could defy the courts outright, lo,TACO.

The Congressional response has been horrifyingly negligible, but the courts are standing tall before the man.

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50 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Yeah sorry bro. We went from Biden to full Gestapo in 6 months. We are a few judges swinging their dicks around from full capitulation by the judicial AND legislative branches. Let me remind you again that it's only been 6 months. Dude has attacked every institution and ruined 80 year alliances in just 6 months. Now we are wondering what elections will look like 18 months to 3 1/2 years from now? If it continues like it has these first 6 months then there won't be any(at least not real ones). Dude told you that you won't have to worry about anymore elections. Not sure why you won't believe him.

You’re not sure why I don’t believe him?  He’s lied once or twice before.  



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