November 12, 2025Nov 12 On 11/8/2025 at 7:31 PM, Vanilla Strange Gato said: Who gets fired this week? Maybe Jonathan Smith at MSU after he gives PSU their first conference win? (In East Lansing.)
November 12, 2025Nov 12 2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said: Terrible fits Curious why? To be clear I think PSU is going to downgrade from Franklin most likely. Brohm is from Kentucky; State College is firmly in Pennsyltucky. He has Big 10 coaching experience at Purdue; lots of East Coast coaching ties. They could do worse in terms of fit.
November 12, 2025Nov 12 26 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said: Strange that elko hasnt signed an extension yet He has to go to Penn State first before he can extend with them.
November 12, 2025Nov 12 2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said: Strange that elko hasnt signed an extension yet both sides of this are way too quiet, and as @Tex Pete pointed out Aggy doesn't know how to STFU my guess is he's trying to both extort a historical elko sized jimbo++ package from aggy as well as see what his options are outside of college station. dudes going to parlay the shittiest season schedule ever for generational wealth one way or another though Edited November 12, 2025Nov 12 by BigHornedLurker
November 12, 2025Nov 12 15 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said: both sides of this are way too quiet, and as @Tex Pete pointed out Aggy doesn't know how to STFU my guess is he's trying to both extort a historical elko sized jimbo++ package from aggy as well as see what his options are outside of college station. dudes going to parlay the shittiest season schedule ever for generational wealth one way or another though
November 13, 2025Nov 13 57 minutes ago, Duane Moore said: Sark is on the top shelf? Back to back playoffs; current Top 10 team.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 8 hours ago, Sandman said: Told the team “We are hurting. We are trying to portal the Wisconsin punter here to be our QB. As a result, I have decided to take my talents to PSU. Respect my decision.”
November 13, 2025Nov 13 These extensions are just so dumb. Saban and Kirby are the exceptions to the rule that a championship run is simply lightning in a bottle and can turn to shit the very next season. There’s nobody with a sustained level of success that warrants a ten year deal except maybe the two aforementioned guys. Fuck these agents. If your guy wants to leave for another job with a long term deal, then bye.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 5 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said: These extensions are just so dumb. Saban and Kirby are the exceptions to the rule that a championship run is simply lightning in a bottle and can turn to shit the very next season. There’s nobody with a sustained level of success that warrants a ten year deal except maybe the two aforementioned guys. Fuck these agents. If your guy wants to leave for another job with a long term deal, then bye. IMO it takes the big P5 schools banding together to make a change. Pushing back against the Sexton’s out there. If all of them said nah we ain’t doing this shit anymore. 4 years to show all the bench marks for improvements however that looks and make contracts incentive based. Make the CCG and so on. The expectation by year four is you should be competing for a conference title. Given all the party in the league with the portal and eventual clamping down on the NiL stuff to a degree four years isn’t a big ask. Look at Cignetti. It can be done. Contracts with incentives to me are the only way. Renewal on a yearly basis. Everything is out in the open and unless for cause firings mid season each contract is evaluated at the end of the season. Idk it seems logical to me. cue 19,000 of you quoting this post and telling me how dumb it is. lol. 😂 Honestly would like @closetojumping thoughts on the out of control contracts and what is a better solution, many of these schools just flushed about a combined $100,000,000 to pay coaches to fuck off. Sorry for summoning you CTJ—but you have ideas about this topic I am sure. 🤘🏼
November 13, 2025Nov 13 6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said: IMO it takes the big P5 schools banding together to make a change. Pushing back against the Sexton’s out there. If all of them said nah we ain’t doing this shit anymore. 4 years to show all the bench marks for improvements however that looks and make contracts incentive based. Make the CCG and so on. The expectation by year four is you should be competing for a conference title. Given all the party in the league with the portal and eventual clamping down on the NiL stuff to a degree four years isn’t a big ask. Look at Cignetti. It can be done. Contracts with incentives to me are the only way. Renewal on a yearly basis. Everything is out in the open and unless for cause firings mid season each contract is evaluated at the end of the season. Idk it seems logical to me. cue 19,000 of you quoting this post and telling me how dumb it is. lol. 😂 Honestly would like @closetojumping thoughts on the out of control contracts and what is a better solution, many of these schools just flushed about a combined $100,000,000 to pay coaches to fuck off. Sorry for summoning you CTJ—but you have ideas about this topic I am sure. 🤘🏼 the problem is that this is considered collusion , paradoxically divorced from government employee regulation even harder from by NIL/NCAA issues. its going to take multiple top universities to start resetting the incentive structures, and there is a ton of FOMO out there causing them to act irrationally. i was really hoping sarks contract since he came in as OC would be of the style you're mentioning I agree way too much of the salaries are guaranteed salary, elsewhere in the world you have a mix of performance and stock incentives to balance the sheets .
November 13, 2025Nov 13 29 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said: These extensions are just so dumb. Saban and Kirby are the exceptions to the rule that a championship run is simply lightning in a bottle and can turn to shit the very next season. There’s nobody with a sustained level of success that warrants a ten year deal except maybe the two aforementioned guys. Fuck these agents. If your guy wants to leave for another job with a long term deal, then bye. The coach who is mentioned first for every vacancy hasn't even made the playoffs. Edited November 13, 2025Nov 13 by JBJ
November 13, 2025Nov 13 6 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said: the problem is that this is considered collusion , paradoxically divorced from government employee regulation even harder from by NIL/NCAA issues. its going to take multiple top universities to start resetting the incentive structures, and there is a ton of FOMO out there causing them to act irrationally. i was really hoping sarks contract since he came in as OC would be of the style you're mentioning I agree way too much of the salaries are guaranteed salary, elsewhere in the world you have a mix of performance and stock incentives to balance the sheets . Just like in the NFL a lot of colleges follow certain trends. It just takes one big college of those seeking a HC to announce a revolutionary type contract and others will seek to follow. I hope.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 Anything on James Franklin and piggy? He would kill from them there. I hope it doesn’t happen.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said: Anything on James Franklin and piggy? He would kill from them there. I hope it doesn’t happen. Ion think it’s true and think it’s a very long shot but some are saying piggy is talking to McGuire at Tech . Yea doesn’t mean shit and i doubt it even gets close, his path to a playoff is to easy in the big12 and they can throw money just as much as Arkansas BUT McGuire being a metroplex guy that might be a great fit along with being in the SEC and Arkansas being a notch or two above Tech as a program its just silly season and ppl are throwing shit against the wall Edited November 13, 2025Nov 13 by D3zii
November 13, 2025Nov 13 24 minutes ago, D3zii said: Ion think it’s true and think it’s a very long shot but some are saying piggy is talking to McGuire at Tech . Yea doesn’t mean shit and i doubt it even gets close, his path to a playoff is to easy in the big12 and they can throw money just as much as Arkansas BUT McGuire being a metroplex guy that might be a great fit along with being in the SEC and Arkansas being a notch or two above Tech as a program its just silly season and ppl are throwing shit against the wall I think this carousel we are seeing a bunch of coaches explore, but i think we are going to see an unprecedented stay in coaches at their current gigs . I think a bunch of the schools hoping they land a large fish end up going smaller with a black eye but for the better overall. The playoffs have opened some doors to smaller schools that simply did not exist before . Boise broke through last year, Tech is on the cusp, Louisville was on the cusp last year and this year. Why go to some big time program that will fire you for 9 wins, when your alma mater or some smaller school will pay you almost as much ? what if they give you 80% of the payouts for a playoff run ? I keep hearing HC are ego maniacs , well offer one a $4M deal with incentives for 10+ wins, conference championships, playoff runs, and national championships. you knock them all out, you get $15M , you get 9 wins you get $4M . Performance based pay, how good are you really ?
November 13, 2025Nov 13 2 hours ago, Nicole44 said: IMO it takes the big P5 schools banding together to make a change. Pushing back against the Sexton’s out there. If all of them said nah we ain’t doing this shit anymore. 4 years to show all the bench marks for improvements however that looks and make contracts incentive based. Make the CCG and so on. The expectation by year four is you should be competing for a conference title. Given all the party in the league with the portal and eventual clamping down on the NiL stuff to a degree four years isn’t a big ask. Look at Cignetti. It can be done. Contracts with incentives to me are the only way. Renewal on a yearly basis. Everything is out in the open and unless for cause firings mid season each contract is evaluated at the end of the season. Idk it seems logical to me. cue 19,000 of you quoting this post and telling me how dumb it is. lol. 😂 Honestly would like @closetojumping thoughts on the out of control contracts and what is a better solution, many of these schools just flushed about a combined $100,000,000 to pay coaches to fuck off. Sorry for summoning you CTJ—but you have ideas about this topic I am sure. 🤘🏼 The only way to stop this is to follow the Mississippi model nationwide. No state employee can sign contracts longer than 4 years so Lane signed his deal with the collective on a 6 year deal that auto renews. If boosters/collectives are pushing for a hire/fire then the guarantee should come from them on anything after the 4 year mark.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 I find it hard to believe McGuire would leave Tech. Arkansas isn’t a better program, they’re both ass when it comes to football. But he’s got a lot of very public backing in NIL right now at tech. Kids know they will get paid, stupidly.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 19 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said: I find it hard to believe McGuire would leave Tech. Arkansas isn’t a better program, they’re both ass when it comes to football. But he’s got a lot of very public backing in NIL right now at tech. Kids know they will get paid, stupidly. McGuire is not going to piggy. Why would he?
November 13, 2025Nov 13 23 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said: I find it hard to believe McGuire would leave Tech. Arkansas isn’t a better program, they’re both ass when it comes to football. But he’s got a lot of very public backing in NIL right now at tech. Kids know they will get paid, stupidly. 2 minutes ago, Satchel said: McGuire is not going to piggy. Why would he? Big time pressure to produce without the NIL backing to make it happen? No, thanks. Living in Lubbock as a millionaire isn't that bad. Plus, his wife loves it there. This guy was previously from Cedar Hill and Waco for crissakes.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 The wild and very much unverified rumors are L Riley and C Campbell have been playing footsie under the table.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 The only metrics in which Arkansas is a better job is sec media money and a trophy from the 1960s. Tech has Campbell which makes it better money wise and for current players you’d have to get to their grand or great grand parents to remember that MNC. Unless they get a Walton or other NWA billionaire to be their Cody Campbell it’s not a better job.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 Yeah not sure I'm thinking Arky is an upgrade from Tech except location and SEC/Big 12 comparisons. Seem on the same level to me.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 23 minutes ago, 'stache said: The only metrics in which Arkansas is a better job is sec media money and a trophy from the 1960s. Tech has Campbell which makes it better money wise and for current players you’d have to get to their grand or great grand parents to remember that MNC. Unless they get a Walton or other NWA billionaire to be their Cody Campbell it’s not a better job. Who is okie lite trying to hire as new Head Coach?
November 13, 2025Nov 13 Just now, Drew said: Yeah not sure I'm thinking Arky is an upgrade from Tech except location and SEC/Big 12 comparisons. Seem on the same level to me. My opinion is Tech is a better job now. - NIL support goes to Tech in a big way - Path to playoff goes to Tech in a big way - Tech has better facilities - Location, not as sure on this one. NWA is way better scenery wise but proximity to recruits seems like a wash. I think Tech, TCU, and SMU are all better jobs. Otherwise Lashlee would already have jumped to Arkansas.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 13 minutes ago, LTtxfan said: Who is okie lite trying to hire as new Head Coach? I've heard that Alex Golesh at USF is at the top of the list and we may have already made contact. He was an assistant here in 2008 when he met his wife whose family is not too far away in Arkansas. If he makes the playoff (or maybe even if they fall short) he'll probably get thrown a stupid contract from Auburn, LSU, or Florida, so I'm not sure we can get him even if he wanted to coach here, but would be great. Other than that, I haven't heard anything other than the same names that get published for every opening plus Zac Robinson who I don't think would leave the NFL and who I wouldn't be super excited about anyway since he's never coached college. My guess is that it'll be a P4 coordinator whose name we haven't seen yet. Edited November 13, 2025Nov 13 by 'stache
November 13, 2025Nov 13 39 minutes ago, 'stache said: The only metrics in which Arkansas is a better job is sec media money and a trophy from the 1960s. Tech has Campbell which makes it better money wise and for current players you’d have to get to their grand or great grand parents to remember that MNC. Unless they get a Walton or other NWA billionaire to be their Cody Campbell it’s not a better job. While we are talking coaches, what the hell is going on there in Stillwater? Are y'all planning to keep a football program? Edited November 13, 2025Nov 13 by JBJ
November 13, 2025Nov 13 3 minutes ago, JBJ said: While we are talking coaches, what the hell is going on there in Stillwater? Are y'all planning to keep a football program? I mean we're $500M into facilities so I hope so, lol! On coaching search i addressed it in the post above. Edited November 13, 2025Nov 13 by 'stache
November 13, 2025Nov 13 https://x.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1989069261839691945?s=20 Edited November 13, 2025Nov 13 by Drew
November 13, 2025Nov 13 6 hours ago, ClubWhatever said: These extensions are just so dumb. Saban and Kirby are the exceptions to the rule that a championship run is simply lightning in a bottle and can turn to shit the very next season. There’s nobody with a sustained level of success that warrants a ten year deal except maybe the two aforementioned guys. Fuck these agents. If your guy wants to leave for another job with a long term deal, then bye. Ah yes. The agents are the problem.
November 13, 2025Nov 13 6 hours ago, Nicole44 said: Just like in the NFL a lot of colleges follow certain trends. It just takes one big college of those seeking a HC to announce a revolutionary type contract and others will seek to follow. I hope. Serious question: Why do you care?
November 14, 2025Nov 14 7 hours ago, BlackCat said: The wild and very much unverified rumors are L Riley and C Campbell have been playing footsie under the table. Is Lincoln going to literally live out the lyrics of the old Mac Davis song?
November 14, 2025Nov 14 19 hours ago, 'stache said: I've heard that Alex Golesh at USF is at the top of the list and we may have already made contact. He was an assistant here in 2008 when he met his wife whose family is not too far away in Arkansas. If he makes the playoff (or maybe even if they fall short) he'll probably get thrown a stupid contract from Auburn, LSU, or Florida, so I'm not sure we can get him even if he wanted to coach here, but would be great. Other than that, I haven't heard anything other than the same names that get published for every opening plus Zac Robinson who I don't think would leave the NFL and who I wouldn't be super excited about anyway since he's never coached college. My guess is that it'll be a P4 coordinator whose name we haven't seen yet. Golesh, Morris and ZRob have all interviewed, according to reports. Golesh and Morris are said to have knocked it out of the park, ZRob not so much.
November 14, 2025Nov 14 13 minutes ago, Sandman said: Golesh, Morris and ZRob have all interviewed, according to reports. Golesh and Morris are said to have knocked it out of the park, ZRob not so much. I’m always skeptical when I read about interviews mid season. I also saw somewhere that we have a handshake deal with Golesh that he’ll take the job which I don’t believe at all and why I didn’t post it earlier but who knows. Didn’t someone a while back say there were some red flags with Morris? I hate that bringing players with you is part of the conversation. If Morris comes with a good qb great but I hope that’s not the primary reason to make what we hope is a long term hire. Edited November 14, 2025Nov 14 by 'stache
November 14, 2025Nov 14 No offense, but similar to hiring people , with this carousel i'd be continuing to interview to get my list of tier 1 / tier 2 candidates lined up . Once seasons start wrapping up i bet its going to be a shitshow and there's going to be some brides left at the altar
November 14, 2025Nov 14 I just read Brian Daboll is in the hunt for the PSU job and that would be the most Penn State hire they could make. *chef kiss*
November 14, 2025Nov 14 A name that is starting to bubble up more and more on our boards. And honestly, I'd be OK with it. Spoiler
November 14, 2025Nov 14 45 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: A name that is starting to bubble up more and more on our boards. And honestly, I'd be OK with it. Hide contents What would the play be for Mora? UW if Fisch were to leave?
November 14, 2025Nov 14 35 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said: What would the play be for Mora? UW if Fisch were to leave? Maybe. The job he's doing at UConn is going to get attention. Best coach we've had in the last 25 years, at least for awhile...
November 14, 2025Nov 14 55 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said: Who gets fired on Sunday? Jonathan Smith, if they lose to Penn State at home Mike Locksley would be my #2 pick
November 14, 2025Nov 14 3 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said: No offense, but similar to hiring people , with this carousel i'd be continuing to interview to get my list of tier 1 / tier 2 candidates lined up . Once seasons start wrapping up i bet its going to be a shitshow and there's going to be some brides left at the altar Is this about the OKST coach and are you assuming we aren't doing other interviews? We're paying a search firm a ton of money, they aren't sitting around, and sure af aren't relying on handshake deals and shutting things down. Apparently the OKST president yesterday at a fundraising event said he expects to have a football coach before Santa Clause arrives, so maybe there's something to a good feeling that Golesh wants to be here and has agreed in principal but again we sure af aren't sitting around without other interviews and considerations ongoing. I'm not big on rumors anyway so we'll just have to see. Edited November 14, 2025Nov 14 by 'stache
November 14, 2025Nov 14 11 minutes ago, 'stache said: We're paying a search firm a ton of money You done fucked up there. Coaching search firms are about as useful as a bunch of new-hire McKinsey Consultants coming into your company HQ and telling you how to "improve efficiencies".
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