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On 7/19/2025 at 3:12 PM, Pancho said:

There’s no helping this. These people are lost. I’m not sure how you help these people:

 

 

Welp, the guy that proclaimed himself a fascist has been fired. He then set up some kind of Temu GoFundMe to raise $15k, on account of having been “Fired for My Political Beliefs”

He has raised $21k so far, and the comments are … interesting.

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Christ is King, Retards!

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Welp, the guy that proclaimed himself a fascist has been fired. He then set up some kind of Temu GoFundMe to raise $15k, on account of having been “Fired for My Political Beliefs”

He has raised $21k so far, and the comments are … interesting.

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Christ is King, Retards!

God gives up on some of us- that’s how he works? And we can know which ones, so we can give up on them too?

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9 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

In all seriousness that is a very broken person whom society has let down.
People need community and they need a sense of purpose and belonging to something bigger than themselves. Organized religion, for all of its many flaws, once filled that need. So did bowling leagues and Freemasonry. For some of us, volunteering or work or even this board fills that need. For some of these people MAGA fills that need. I see those people as victims in an epidemic of isolation and loneliness, even if they aren’t blameless. 
 

When Talarico was on Rogan he said something to the effect that you can only love god as much as you love the person who you love the least. That’s a a Christian perspective. But regardless of the Christianity involved, can we honestly look at that person and not see someone in pain? I can’t. 

 

I assume you've read "Bowling Alone." Putnam was on to something.

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28 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

In all seriousness that is a very broken person whom society has let down.
People need community and they need a sense of purpose and belonging to something bigger than themselves. Organized religion, for all of its many flaws, once filled that need. So did bowling leagues and Freemasonry. For some of us, volunteering or work or even this board fills that need. For some of these people MAGA fills that need. I see those people as victims in an epidemic of isolation and loneliness, even if they aren’t blameless. 
 

When Talarico was on Rogan he said something to the effect that you can only love god as much as you love the person who you love the least. That’s a a Christian perspective. But regardless of the Christianity involved, can we honestly look at that person and not see someone in pain? I can’t. 

The internet has been the cause and unfortunate solution to a vast majority of isolation and loneliness. Bro (probably) wouldn't have found dozens of like-minded, sympathetic conspiracists in a bowling league.

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4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I get it, trust me. That’s my default setting. But I’m trying, Rico. 

My advice to you: stop trying.

They want to slit our throats.  They say just that, in open and proud terms.  They offer no window for compromise, no quarter, no chance for a peaceful outcome.

This is where we are, and you know it as well as I do:

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@Brisketexan, you aren’t wrong. 
A WWII Veteran once told me a story about killing a German soldier with a bayonet when they ran into each other on foot, quite by accident, in the Ardenne forest. He told me the German was a boy his own age, and that sometimes he prayed for the boy and his family, but didn’t regret it because “that’s why I survived.”

For several years I’ve been arguing off and on that a second civil war isn’t some future scenario, but rather an ongoing reality that most of us are just waking up to. It is a civil Cold War that is very gradually warming up as intensity and violent episodes increase in frequency and magnitude. 
It needs to be understood in those terms and contested in those terms. But we also need maintain the moral clarity to see who has the agency and understanding in this conflict, who doesn’t, and how those people got left behind. If we can’t tell the difference we give up any hope of a world worth living in when the dust settles. 

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6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

What am I looking at here 

Lee and Benny Johnson (amongst others) posted (then deleted) an AI/fake letter of Jerome Powell purportedly resigning. The stamp was a giveaway.

 

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1 minute ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Lee and Benny Johnson (amongst others) posted (then deleted) an AI/fake letter of Jerome Powell purportedly resigning. The stamp was a giveaway.

That and also Powell speaking live this morning while opening and leading the Integrated Review of the Capital Framework for Large Banks Conference, where he is in attendance, right now.

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10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

For several years I’ve been arguing off and on that a second civil war isn’t some future scenario, but rather an ongoing reality that most of us are just waking up to. It is a civil Cold War that is very gradually warming up as intensity and violent episodes increase in frequency and magnitude. 

You know I agree with you, and we've been in agreement for some time.  Now that we're in the full-on "they're saying all the quiet parts out loud" stage, more people are waking up to that truth.

10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

But we also need maintain the moral clarity to see who has the agency and understanding in this conflict, who doesn’t, and how those people got left behind. If we can’t tell the difference we give up any hope of a world worth living in when the dust settles. 

And there's the difference between you and me.  I have no hope about the world we're in, and I have no hope about the world we'll have when the dust settles.

We tried this exercise once or twice before.  It didn't solve a goddamn thing then, it won't solve a goddamn thing now.  The "utter depravity of man" is our natural low spot.  Like water, we will always and forever flow towards and seek that low spot, and find it.  

We literally bombed the last round of Nazis into submission, leaving them with little but piles of rubble and suffering.  And here they are again.  There's no getting rid of them.  We can just knock them back - at hideous cost - every few generations, at best.  I hate them.  Because all it takes is one relatively small group to decide "let's take humanity on a ride to a pure hellscape," and we all have to go along with them.  We have no choice.  They are the turd in the punch bowl that turns the entire contents of that bowl into a bowl of shit punch.  It takes most everyone opting into democracy and humanity to make those work.  It just takes a small percentage -- think 15-20% -- opting for authoritarian, racist, violent hell, to make that the order of the day.  They will continue to do so, time and time again.  They want pain and suffering.  And they're going to get what they want.

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It's more about the depth of interaction than it is the proximity.  I can have a heated argument with dozens of you assholes but it is founded in actual perspective on both/all sides and the debate is real.  The average social media interaction is little more than "go bro" or "you suck", and combined with a lack of face-to-face time those people become islands who are incredibly easy to persuade and who are immune to logical counterpoint.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

For several years I’ve been arguing off and on that a second civil war isn’t some future scenario, but rather an ongoing reality that most of us are just waking up to. It is a civil Cold War that is very gradually warming up as intensity and violent episodes increase in frequency and magnitude. 
It needs to be understood in those terms and contested in those terms. But we also need maintain the moral clarity to see who has the agency and understanding in this conflict, who doesn’t, and how those people got left behind. If we can’t tell the difference we give up any hope of a world worth living in when the dust settles. 

Fuck that.  It's time to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.  My grandfather once told me it's not wrong to kill someone that needs to be killed.  He gave me my moral clarity for the situation we now face.  I'm looking forward to the spark that starts it all.  I hope it happens sooner rather than later so I can participate fully.  Getting old sucks.  Valhalla calls.

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42 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I wonder if Popper were writing today, would he engage with the work of Ayn Rand?

i suspect he wouldn't give her the time of day other than maybe a passing head shot.  

they didn't occupy the same planet of ideas and theories.

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32 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

i suspect he wouldn't give her the time of day other than maybe a passing head shot.  

they didn't occupy the same planet of ideas and theories.

Indeed not, but I’m not sure Hegel did either, despite being highly consequential in the 40s in the way that Ayn Rand is now.

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44 minutes ago, mooseoutfront said:

Fuck that.  It's time to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.  My grandfather once told me it's not wrong to kill someone that needs to be killed.  He gave me my moral clarity for the situation we now face.  I'm looking forward to the spark that starts it all.  I hope it happens sooner rather than later so I can participate fully.  Getting old sucks.  Valhalla calls.

I think part of why the situation in Gaza is so appalling, no matter how one feels about Israel, is that there is a huge moral difference between the Hamas leadership or actual Hamas fighters and civilian noncombatants or even rock throwers who hate Israel and chant “Death to Israel.” 

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18 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

In all seriousness that is a very broken person whom society has let down.
People need community and they need a sense of purpose and belonging to something bigger than themselves. Organized religion, for all of its many flaws, once filled that need. So did bowling leagues and Freemasonry. For some of us, volunteering or work or even this board fills that need. For some of these people MAGA fills that need. I see those people as victims in an epidemic of isolation and loneliness, even if they aren’t blameless. 
 

When Talarico was on Rogan he said something to the effect that you can only love god as much as you love the person who you love the least. That’s a a Christian perspective. But regardless of the Christianity involved, can we honestly look at that person and not see someone in pain? I can’t. 

i feel you brother. its hard to watch. the first thing that actually caught my attention with said dude was his jittering composure along with his violent snarls. He snarled (raising nose to express rage) multiple times. That is an immediate red flag for anyone paying attention. That dude is raging out hard, hates everyone, and past that, needs the validation of his peers in that group. His currency was also outrage and shock. Dude is walking social media disease. 

These are sick kids getting raised by social media and its a fucking shame our politicians are such soulless suckers of satins cock that they can't see the mess we are in. 

We get everything we deserve for being a individualistic shithole of a country that doesn't care near enough about community, about spiritual health, about our fellow man and our Earth. For fucking shame on us. 

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20 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I feel like this is a very common them with these far-right assholes. They have their own demons, don't know how to manage them, and take it out on everyone else. 

 

Pinesap?  His name is Pinesap?

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18 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

@Brisketexan, you aren’t wrong. 
A WWII Veteran once told me a story about killing a German soldier with a bayonet when they ran into each other on foot, quite by accident, in the Ardenne forest. He told me the German was a boy his own age, and that sometimes he prayed for the boy and his family, but didn’t regret it because “that’s why I survived.”

For several years I’ve been arguing off and on that a second civil war isn’t some future scenario, but rather an ongoing reality that most of us are just waking up to. It is a civil Cold War that is very gradually warming up as intensity and violent episodes increase in frequency and magnitude. 
It needs to be understood in those terms and contested in those terms. But we also need maintain the moral clarity to see who has the agency and understanding in this conflict, who doesn’t, and how those people got left behind. If we can’t tell the difference we give up any hope of a world worth living in when the dust settles. 

Lincoln tried that "malice toward none, with charity toward all" thing. Didn't work out so great.

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22 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

i suspect he wouldn't give her the time of day other than maybe a passing head shot.  

they didn't occupy the same planet of ideas and theories.

Fuck ayn rand anyway. 

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11 hours ago, TheRealRonWeaver? said:

Lincoln tried that "malice toward none, with charity toward all" thing. Didn't work out so great.

I think you may have missed the point of the anecdote about the veteran. I don’t have any illusions. I just want a world worth living in when things shake out. 
 

 

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On 7/22/2025 at 1:50 PM, Brisketexan said:

My advice to you: stop trying.

They want to slit our throats.  They say just that, in open and proud terms.  They offer no window for compromise, no quarter, no chance for a peaceful outcome.This is where we are,

 

On 7/22/2025 at 2:33 PM, Brisketexan said:

 

And there's the difference between you and me.  I have no hope about the world we're in, and I have no hope about the world we'll have when the dust settles.

 

lmfao

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On 7/22/2025 at 5:11 PM, jimmyjazz said:

...those people become islands who are incredibly easy to persuade and who are immune to logical counterpoint.

...this is true of 80% of people on BOTH sides of the aisle.  Just the way it is. 

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13 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

 

lmfao

Guess you missed the part where one of the president's most trusted advisors says she wants to expel me and my family (all US citizens...but also hispanic) from the United States.  She wants to get rid of all 65 million of us.  Her words, her numbers.

Yeah, friendo.  Your team wants to exterminate me and my family.  So, congratulations for not facing an existential threat from this regime -- for those of us who ARE facing that threat, go fuck yourself.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's just not true.

Also this.

80% of democrat voters are willing to toss a dem politician in jail if he committed a crime.

80% of GQP voters will absolutely and unconditionally support, defend, and vote for a GQP politician who committed a crime.

As just one nifty little example of the vast difference between the two political philosophies nowadays.  Don't give me that "both sides" bullshit.  One side believes in continuing the democratic republic we have had for 250 years, the other side is openly working to turn it into a full-on autocracy, and scrapping the whole goddamned thing.  Fuck that, and fuck them.

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56 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Guess you missed the part where one of the president's most trusted advisors says she wants to expel me and my family (all US citizens...but also hispanic) from the United States.  She wants to get rid of all 65 million of us.  Her words, her numbers.

Yeah, friendo.  Your team wants to exterminate me and my family.  So, congratulations for not facing an existential threat from this regime -- for those of us who ARE facing that threat, go fuck yourself.

No, I heard it.  I face every threat you face.  There's no hiding from hate or ignorance.  Every group has its detractors.  Some more than others.  How we react and the hyperbole are where we are very different.  I'm glad there are people like you in the world, Brisket.  It makes it interesting, and it probably serves someone.  Cheers! 

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Where's the "hyperbole" in people being essentially kidnapped without due process, unable to communicate with their families, and sent to a foreign country to be starved and beaten? 

And what kind of government would you call that?



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