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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Zeus said:

 

The answer to a system that has an opaque playoff selection model and meaningless bowl games for the excluded is to ….. wait  a second….. is to turn conference championships to meaningless exhibition bowl games for the already included and to expand the still flawed playoff selection model further to try to get more excluded teams into the playoffs

 

christopher walken cowbell GIF
 

 

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8 hours ago, immamac said:

What? He is a fat fucking retard. Great thread title. 

I know. That’s why it’s the greatest and every other thread title is tied for worst. Ricky Bobby if you ain’t first you’re last. 

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So if ND were called UCONN (the other independent) but with exact same results against exact same teams. they are ranked behind Vandy by the committee, right?  Not an argument to get us in. An argument against ND. 

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On 12/1/2025 at 10:40 PM, Dahobbs said:

If you say so (maybe nsfw?):

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Has she been titty fucked by a rockstar though?

Levels..

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

The answer to a system that has an opaque playoff selection model and meaningless bowl games for the excluded is to ….. wait  a second….. is to turn conference championships to meaningless exhibition bowl games for the already included and to expand the still flawed playoff selection model further to try to get more excluded teams into the playoffs

 

christopher walken cowbell GIF
 

 

Eh, I dont think many people will bellyache and be taken seriously when you expand to 16. Nobody actually think Vandy or Utah can win it all. There are problem some people who think Miami can but it is mainly designed to catch a team like Texas that is peaking late in the year that maybe had some early struggles. We are a legitimate top 4 team and we are being left out. 

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13 hours ago, NBHorn7 said:

If Bama wins and jumps up in the CFP and Aggy falls to the #8 seed, they could play #9 seed OU in Collie.

That would be interesting or at least ironic. I know the meteor rooting interest will be mentioned. 

Barring that do you just watch and not care who wins?

It's the same now as it always has been: You watch and hope that ou, aggy, and ND get boat-raced. I mean, they get their shit pushed in in supremely embarrassing fashion on national TV. I don't ever want to see any one of those cocksuckers ever win another game. Ever

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8 hours ago, F250 said:

Adding wild card games.

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It’s effectively a modified 16 team (plus or minus) play off with the CCGs incorporated into the first round schedule and a reseed after first round based on wins and conference champions.  It’s pretty cool. And frankly looking at the teams included it solves every problem including  the conference championship game problem. Though I bet rematches ain’t what most would want. Texas OU in Minnesota? No thanks. Texas Miami or Texas ND etc etc makes more sense to me.

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9 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Eh, I dont think many people will bellyache and be taken seriously when you expand to 16. Nobody actually think Vandy or Utah can win it all. There are problem some people who think Miami can but it is mainly designed to catch a team like Texas that is peaking late in the year that maybe had some early struggles. We are a legitimate top 4 team and we are being left out. 

high quality GIF

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11 hours ago, scramblyn said:

Without schedule parity that’s pretty hard. Bids based on conference standings makes a ton of sense until you look at schedule parity.

SEC won’t agree to 2 auto bids for ACC and Big 12 and those shit conferences won’t agree to 4+ autos for SEC.

the real problem is you probably have to go 16 deep before the Big 12 has a legit argument for 2 and in that case the SEC is at 6.

schedule parity is how the NFL gets to auto bids across the board. Humans schedule the season and the results schedule the post season. 

CFB is so far away from schedule parity it’s impossible to have a legit post season selection. 

Lol wut? The SEC and Big XII are in agreement against those auto bids and are for 5+11. Everyone knows the SEC doesn’t need 4 autobids, they’ll always get more than 3 additional at large spots. Only the Big 10 wants those autobids because they are never very deep.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/college-football-playoffs-future-format-still-up-in-the-air-as-power-conference-leaders-mull-new-working-group-204003809.html

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2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Lol wut? The SEC and Big XII are in agreement against those auto bids and are for 5+11. Everyone knows the SEC doesn’t need 4 autobids, they’ll always get more than 3 additional at large spots. Only the Big 10 wants those autobids because they are never very deep.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/college-football-playoffs-future-format-still-up-in-the-air-as-power-conference-leaders-mull-new-working-group-204003809.html

This. But why not make shit up based on your feelyfeels rather than like, look at a fact or three.

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4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Lol wut? The SEC and Big XII are in agreement against those auto bids and are for 5+11. Everyone knows the SEC doesn’t need 4 autobids, they’ll always get more than 3 additional at large spots. Only the Big 10 wants those autobids because they are never very deep.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/college-football-playoffs-future-format-still-up-in-the-air-as-power-conference-leaders-mull-new-working-group-204003809.html

Can you imagine the apocalyptic bitching on years where the B1G sneaks an 8-4 4th seed into the playoffs over a 10-2 team from the B12 or ACC under that model? That would be a nuclear shit sandwich for the networks to have to carry as a playoff game. 

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

The answer to a system that has an opaque playoff selection model and meaningless bowl games for the excluded is to ….. wait  a second….. is to turn conference championships to meaningless exhibition bowl games for the already included and to expand the still flawed playoff selection model further to try to get more excluded teams into the playoffs

 

I seriously doubt adding 4 more teams is going to make the conference championship games exhibition bowl games...

.... but if they do? So what! you have a 16-team playoff now!

I'd be more than happy to drag my nuts on aggy the day after turkey and sit back at 12-0 until the first round of the playoffs begins. I don't need to go play Georgia or whoever. I don't need to see Cactus Aggy and BYU play again. Crown a regular season champ and let's get on with the playoffs. 

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

I seriously doubt adding 4 more teams is going to make the conference championship games exhibition bowl games...

.... but if they do? So what! you have a 16-team playoff now!

I'd be more than happy to drag my nuts on aggy the day after turkey and sit back at 12-0 until the first round of the playoffs begins. I don't need to go play Georgia or whoever. I don't need to see Cactus Aggy and BYU play again. Crown a regular season champ and let's get on with the playoffs. 

The extra CFP games should more than offset CCG's going away financially. Just award the conference trophy based on regular season records and tiebreakers. This year would be Bama, tOSU, Tech, and UVA. It's not like the CCG makes it any more "undisputed" because unequal conference scheduling and tiebreakers make even the participants in those games questionable. Ole Miss and aggy are tied at the top of the SEC and are sitting home because of the conference SOS tiebreaker, something they have no control over. (Edit: Also just realized that the second spot in the ACC title game is a five way tie which Duke won also because of conference SOS which again, the others have no control over.)

The first weekend in December could be the two highest ranked G5 champs for the last spot. This year it would be UNT v. JMU. Maybe move Army Navy to this weekend too (I think it used to be this weekend until CCG's became a thing). I think the NCAA and the networks should also push for more interest and attention to the FCS playoffs which start this weekend as well. JMO.

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19 hours ago, MrBig said:

We should’ve tried scoring again against aggy instead of taking a knee. We were already at 3 losses so the fucking style points is all we had. Beating an undefeated team by 17 points instead of 10 may not have changed a thing but why not do it anyways? Fuck aggy and fuck the committee. All gas but brakes once we’re up by 2 scores. Keep your foot on the gas if this is the final gasp in the regular season Sark. I’d prefer if the slogan be changed to NO MERCY

The referees gave aggy a TD with numerous fake penalties and non-calls.  They weren't going to let them lose by 17.

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Posted
14 hours ago, Ignatius said:

One of the arguments for the guaranteed 4 slots for the B10 and SEC in the CFP was that the top 2 teams would be in the playoff automatically and on what used to be CCG weekend they’d have a day/night twin bill between 3/6 and 4/5 to decide the other two slots…

This makes way to much sense to actually happen.

First 2 teams are in...let the other 2 spots be decided by a play in.  Texas couldn't bitch if we played Aggie again and lost and then were left out.  

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2 hours ago, scramblyn said:

It’s effectively a modified 16 team (plus or minus) play off with the CCGs incorporated into the first round schedule and a reseed after first round based on wins and conference champions.  It’s pretty cool. And frankly looking at the teams included it solves every problem including  the conference championship game problem. Though I bet rematches ain’t what most would want. Texas OU in Minnesota? No thanks. Texas Miami or Texas ND etc etc makes more sense to me.

Gruden's suggestion fixes a lot of bullshit, but does not address the fuckery in the polls themselves, which will be gamed even more if that were to come about.  See 2008.  

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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

So an 18-team tourney where:

Both teams advance from 3 of the first round games.

If one team wins the first round, they are eliminated anyway.

If one team loses the first round, they could still be in because the previous team won the first round.

Selection process and season schedule does not change, so UM, Utah, USC, and Mizzou get left out for JMU, Virginia, etc.

😵

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Posted
1 hour ago, UncleBuck said:

I seriously doubt adding 4 more teams is going to make the conference championship games exhibition bowl games...

.... but if they do? So what! you have a 16-team playoff now!

I'd be more than happy to drag my nuts on aggy the day after turkey and sit back at 12-0 until the first round of the playoffs begins. I don't need to go play Georgia or whoever. I don't need to see Cactus Aggy and BYU play again. Crown a regular season champ and let's get on with the playoffs. 

123 years and Texas has 7 undefeated seasons lol. You mean you’d be happy to sit back at 10-2. Darrel Royal ain’t walking through that door Buck. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, 'stache said:
1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

Can you imagine the apocalyptic bitching on years where the B1G sneaks an 8-4 4th seed into the playoffs over a 10-2 team from the B12 or ACC under that model?

a b1g 4-loss team is highly unlikely in the below model from the article supported by everyone but the b1g....

"In its place, many SEC coaches publicly supported a 16-team format with a bigger at-large pool — a 5+11 concept that kept in existence the five auto bids for conference champions and added four more at-large spots.  Other league officials jumped on board with that plan as well, including the Big 12, ACC and commissioners from the non-power FBS conferences. However, the Big Ten’s resistance for any format with so few automatic qualifiers has stymied conversations and paused any decision."

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this is the new australian Final 10 system which debuts next year

in the case of the cfp, it would become a Final 16 system - double the bracket - it takes 5 rounds of games and requires KILLING THE BOWLS

the first week labeled "wildcard" would be all of the CCGs ++PLUS++ the 'wildcard' play-in games in each league where 3 hosts 6 and 4 hosts 5

3/4/5/6 winners ARE NOT guaranteed a spot in the 16-team field but can make their case with the extra data point

P4 CCG winners get to host a Qualifying Final with the opportunity to WIN against another top 8 seed and EARN a bye the following week - the aussies call this "the double chance"

***ONLY*** the CCG winners get the double chance

week 0: the CCGs and the P4 play-ins

week 1: the Qualifying and Elimination Finals with the 16-team field, no guarantees beyond the P4 CCG winners and losers (8 teams) getting in

P4 CCG losers get seeded with the rest of the field - a conference play-in 3/4/5/6 winner might nab one of the cfp 5/6/7/8 seeds that host a playoff game - and they might not - the 3/4/5/6 winners might get in - but they might not - although a 3/4/5/6 winner is likely to get in - 8 ccg winners/losers and 6 of 8 winners from the league 3/4/5/6 playoffs would leave 2 slots reserved for the G5 and/or domer if they are in the final 16

adding a 6th round makes it possible to go to 24 and have a system where every "FBS" G5 conference winner gets in

KILL THE BOWLS

it's no longer the "Football Bowl Subdivision"

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i ran out of edit time, the text above week 0 should read like this:

***ONLY*** the CCG winners and 4 other teams (seeded 5/6/7/8) get the double chance - a CCG loser could get a double chance - a CCG loser could also be seeded 9-16 and a non-CCG participant could be seeded 5/6/7/8 and get the double chance

NOTE that only the winner of 4 of the 8 games in the first round earn a bye and get to skip a week - the loser of 4 of the first 8 games eliminated

Posted
2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Who exactly did Vanderbilt think they would get to play in this mythical 13th game?

 

This is so fucking unserious. What are they even doing? I thought they were supposed to be the smart school?

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42 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

123 years and Texas has 7 undefeated seasons lol. You mean you’d be happy to sit back at 10-2. Darrel Royal ain’t walking through that door Buck. 

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2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

This is so fucking unserious. What are they even doing? I thought they were supposed to be the smart school?

CTE comes for them all.

Posted
2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

This is so fucking unserious. What are they even doing? I thought they were supposed to be the smart school?

PDS - Playoff Derangement Syndrome

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2 hours ago, 'stache said:

Lol wut? The SEC and Big XII are in agreement against those auto bids and are for 5+11. Everyone knows the SEC doesn’t need 4 autobids, they’ll always get more than 3 additional at large spots. Only the Big 10 wants those autobids because they are never very deep.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/college-football-playoffs-future-format-still-up-in-the-air-as-power-conference-leaders-mull-new-working-group-204003809.html

 

2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

This. But why not make shit up based on your feelyfeels rather than like, look at a fact or three.

I can’t keep up. Not trying to make shit up, if we can all agree on appropriate auto bids based on conference standings then fucking A let’s get going. 

Posted
2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Dude who got two extra years wants one extra game.

instead of a Heisman ceremony, the top 2 Heisman candidates should have to play a game against each others teams for the trophy.

Posted
4 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

This is so fucking unserious. What are they even doing? I thought they were supposed to be the smart school?

They want to have their little flex about "we're not scared to play anyone". They also needed OT to beat Auburn at home but that's apparently a huge win according to the committee. 

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5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

They want to have their little flex about "we're not scared to play anyone". They also needed OT to beat Auburn at home but that's apparently a huge win according to the committee. 

you forget that if it was at Jordan Hare Vandy would have lost by 20+

Posted
54 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

123 years and Texas has 7 undefeated seasons lol. You mean you’d be happy to sit back at 10-2. Darrel Royal ain’t walking through that door Buck. 

winning is hard

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

a b1g 4-loss team is highly unlikely in the below model from the article supported by everyone but the b1g....

"In its place, many SEC coaches publicly supported a 16-team format with a bigger at-large pool — a 5+11 concept that kept in existence the five auto bids for conference champions and added four more at-large spots.  Other league officials jumped on board with that plan as well, including the Big 12, ACC and commissioners from the non-power FBS conferences. However, the Big Ten’s resistance for any format with so few automatic qualifiers has stymied conversations and paused any decision."

This year USC (9-3) would get an AQ while Vandy (10-2) and Utah (10-2) are left out despite being ranked ahead of them in the CFP poll. We'd be having the exact same conversation especially with Vandy touting how so very much harder the SEC is than anyone else. I don't think a 4 loss BIG team finishing 4th place is all that hard to imagine.

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Posted
20 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Josh Pate is on the payroll at TexAgs and Academy. He is being paid to overhype A&M and disparage Texas.

No matter how much he jokes that he reads this on Texas message boards and says he can’t believe Texas fans would believe it, we know it’s true Josh so you can just admit it. 

Hell, use my name on your next podcast. In fact, I’ll come on your show and break it down for you.

 

1 hour and 20 minutes into Pate’s “Rivalry Week Reaction Show” and guess how long he has spend on Texas vs. a&m?

 

 

0 minutes. 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

1 hour and 20 minutes into Pate’s “Rivalry Week Reaction Show” and guess how long he has spend on Texas vs. a&m?

 

 

0 minutes. 

He did a separate segment from his main show for our game. Since it was played on Friday 

ETA: It wasn’t that great. And I like Pate

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