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16 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Fucking LULZ. Driver rolls up and asks if they’re broke down. They answer that they are out of gas. “I’ll tow you back to Russia.”

A bit of discussion about whether they know where they hell they are headed (Kyiv). Explains that they’re all idiots, that Russians are giving up easily, and drives off. 
 

 

What a great video. Reminds me of Western Bosnia in 95. Everyone was fed up with Serbian and Croatian shit. 

 

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31 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Was on a date, missed the over night. She did not like me constantly monitoring twitter vs. her new hair style. Someone catch me up quick. Did we win?

Did her new hairstyle win?  Asking for a friend.  Lulz.

Kyiv still stands free.
So far since sunup, a few air raid sirens and some thumps that seem like outgoing artillery (Ukrainians firing at ruskies). 
Social media showing a LOT of fucked-up supply lines for the ruskies elsewhere in Ukraine and more footage of destroyed ruskie armor and materiel.
One missile strike hit a high-rise apartment building in Kyiv. 
Kyiv's fierce and brave defenders so far have repelled the attempts to enter the city, and they even blew up one highway river bridge connecting Ukraine to Belraus to deny it to more ruskie/belarus armored columns.
Now some audible off and on rumbles in the distance on the DW Kyiv stream: 

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Macron is talking about it being a long war. 

https://www.barrons.com/news/this-war-will-last-warns-france-s-macron-on-ukraine-01645860607

This is not really news. There's no benefit to saying it will end next week. Still, the leader of France and the current rotating head of the EU setting these expectations has some importance.

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7 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

 

 

That's a long line of destroyed vehicles with the Z markings on them.

That’s military engineers.  Ukrainians doing this right, taking out construction equipment and fuel trucks (what I saw).

 

The mayor of Lviv confirms that an airborne attack in Brody (far west) was repelled— but as one OSINT geek says “this is so poorly thought out it sounds fake.” 

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13 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

This is one of the most bizarre videos I've seen yet, and we've all seen a bunch of them. Russians just abandoned their tank.

I heard the Sanford and Son theme playing in my head as the guy making the video moved around showing the interior.

That looks like a BMP infantry fighting vehicle, but I am not a total geek. Guessing the soldiers shed most of their uniforms and just want to walk the fuck out of Ukraine. 

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3 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

This is one of the most bizarre videos I've seen yet, and we've all seen a bunch of them. Russians just abandoned their tank.

I heard the Sanford and Son theme playing in my head as the guy making the video moved around showing the interior.

Seems like conscripts who saw their opportunity, with finally no one to shoot them in the back when they deserted, to ditch their BMP/infantry-fighting-vehicle, take off their military clothes (prolly wore their street clothes underneath if they planned ahead to do this), and desert.
They already speak russian just like everyone there in Ukraine, so they won't seem out of place, and they can disappear and see if they can flee to the free part of Europe, too (Poland/Hungary/Slovakia/etc.).

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3 minutes ago, BachelorTrek said:

Seems like conscripts who saw their opportunity, with finally no one to shoot them in the back when they deserted, to ditch their BMP/infantry-fighting-vehicle, take off their military clothes (prolly wore their street clothes underneath if they planned ahead to do this), and desert.
They already speak russian just like everyone there in Ukraine, so they won't seem out of place, and they can disappear and see if they can flee to the free part of Europe, too (Poland/Hungary/Slovakia/etc.).

They should head back to Russia or Donbas and hang around there because Ukraine is completely mobilized and not letting men 18-60 leave, would not recommend trying to do so if I was a Russian not carrying any Ukrainian ID. 

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Something that I haven't really seen reported yet or focused on: this is basically an unprecedented invasion. Sure there haven't been "movements" like this since WW2 but a much bigger factor that everyone seems to be ignoring - maybe the Russian military, too - is the fact that the population they are attempting to invade has wifi until the power goes out and then even if it does cell service until the towers go out. 

Never - in human history - has an invasion force attempted to quell a populace that has this much communicatory power at their fingertips. I mean this is potentially really, really bad for the Russians. Surely they worked this factor in to their pre-invasion equations, right? Even then - this seems like the type of thing that is impossible to account for.

We are seeing some truly unprecedented shit right now and if Russia didn't account for it properly it could go south in a hurry for them.

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Something that I haven't really seen reported yet or focused on: this is basically an unprecented invasion. Sure there haven't been "movements" like this since WW2 but a much bigger factor that everyone seems to be ignoring - maybe the Russian military, too - is the fact that the population they are attempting to invade has wifi until the power goes out and then even if it does cell service until the towers go out. 

Never - in human history - has an invasion force attempted to quell a populace that has this much communicatory power at their fingertips. I mean this is potentially really, really bad for the Russians. Surely they worked this factor in to their pre-invasion equations, right? Even then - this seems like the type of thing that is impossible to account for.

We are seeing some truly unprecedented shit right now and if Russia didn't account for it properly it could go south in a hurry for them.

My fear is that this is accurate and that Russian leadership down to soldiers in the field get angry and scared and frustrated and start lashing out on civilians. This could have been much worse for Ukrainian non-combatants and still can be. Even disciplined U.S. forces can give in to this sort of thing. 

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

They should head back to Russia or Donbas and hang around there because Ukraine is completely mobilized and not letting men 18-60 leave, would not recommend trying to do so if I was a Russian not carrying any Ukrainian ID. 

And get tortured and executed for deserting in Russia or Donbas? No way!

Jump the fence in the pretty farmland (an unguarded border except for ports of entry) between Ukraine and Poland (in the area of Nyzhankovychi, Ukraine, and Malhowice, Poland, for instance), and tell the Poles you're defecting even if you get stopped, and you get to live a life in Freedom. It's back to a Cold War mentality, and the Poles aren't going to send you back as a defector -- they'll give you a passport, and then you can go where you want in the whole EU.

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6 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I know this is your "fear" but this is also the way that you win wars. 

Yeah, this is crap. You win wars by competently destroying strategic targets and military forces and by having your military objectives tied to realistic and achievable political aims.  Not by brutalizing civilians. Burnt out Russian helicopters in Afghanistan and millions of dead Germans that turned Ukrainians from sympathizers to partizany can tell you that. 

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yeah, this is crap. You win wars by competently destroying strategic targets and military forces and by having your military objectives tied to realistic and achievable political aims.  Not by brutalizing civilians. Burnt out Russian helicopters in Afghanistan and millions of dead Germans that turned Ukrainians from sympathizers to partizany can tell you that. 

I apologize for a lack of clarity. My "you" is referring to the Ukraine.

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28 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Something that I haven't really seen reported yet or focused on: this is basically an unprecedented invasion. Sure there haven't been "movements" like this since WW2 but a much bigger factor that everyone seems to be ignoring - maybe the Russian military, too - is the fact that the population they are attempting to invade has wifi until the power goes out and then even if it does cell service until the towers go out. 

Never - in human history - has an invasion force attempted to quell a populace that has this much communicatory power at their fingertips. I mean this is potentially really, really bad for the Russians. Surely they worked this factor in to their pre-invasion equations, right? Even then - this seems like the type of thing that is impossible to account for.

We are seeing some truly unprecedented shit right now and if Russia didn't account for it properly it could go south in a hurry for them.

It took the Nazi Wehrmacht 4 weeks plus a few days to subdue "Kiev" in 1941.
It took the Soviet army 7 weeks to take back "Kiev" from the Nazi Wehrmacht in 1943.

War has changed even more than you stated, of course, except for the house-to-house urban combat problems seem the same.  Unless Putin wants to level Kyiv, by WMDs or by point-blank howitzer building demolition.

The Allied Forces, including US forces, were losing so many soldiers to snipers in cities in WW2 that we started doing the point-blank howitzer building demolitions, too, so that's not new.

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37 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

That looks like a BMP infantry fighting vehicle, but I am not a total geek. Guessing the soldiers shed most of their uniforms and just want to walk the fuck out of Ukraine. 

 

Either way, I'm bringing it to my house and fixing it up. Maybe convert it into some sort of low rider. Has that been done?

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

You've been warned.  Occasionally older or non-relevant stuff gets posted (people get fooled on social media), but a lot of that gets downvoted/deleted pretty fast - they have people in these subs that are as obsessed with the accuracy of what's in the photos/videos as we are about football, down to whether some tank is a T-72br549 or a T-72br548.  And they have a lot of eyeballs on these subs, so the fake/old stuff gets filtered out quick.

You can sort by top or newest or whatever.

And some really graphic stuff - quite a few charred Russian corpses, body parts, etc.  And the Russians seem to leave all of their dead behind.  But those posts have spoiler tags you have to click.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/

 

They're still debating the Ghost of Kiev on r/Ukraine which isn't real.

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5 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

It's early in all of this, and coming events may make this look foolish, but it sure seems that Russia is fresh out of Zhukovs, Konievs, and Rokossovskis.

This is what happens when loyalty to the autocrat is the sole criterion for advancement. In only 4 years Trump had nothing but yes men in the upper levels of his administration. Imagine how far down that would spread in 20 years

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

My fear is that this is accurate and that Russian leadership down to soldiers in the field get angry and scared and frustrated and start lashing out on civilians. This could have been much worse for Ukrainian non-combatants and still can be. Even disciplined U.S. forces can give in to this sort of thing. 

1 in 10 of those non-combatants have AKs and a bunch have SMGs. Those Russian soldiers fuck around you’re going to start seeing some Chechen rebel type videos of captured Russians getting their throats slit and worse. 

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Ok— so reports from Belarus that Putin wants Minsk to join in active operations. Lukashenka wants to wait till a “referendum”’ ends that allows him to stay in office to 2035, ends military neutrality in the constitution, and allows Russian nukes to be stationed in Belarus.

Of course the backdrop to this is that while Russia invaded Ukraine, they have for all intents occupied Belarus on the way.  My own thought is that Belarus is no longer a sovereign nation.

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42 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Fuck I love these people—- this guy approaches soldiers he doesn’t recognize and asks “pronounce ‘palyanitsa’”— a type of Ukrainian bread.  Sees they are Russian, they tell him to stop filming.

 

”Who are you to tell me not to film? The constitution of Ukraine allows it!”

 

 

This interaction where military objective is parallel to civilian life makes the whole concept of foreign incursion feel so awkward and anachronistic. Like bro…just go home and work on your own country

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Been said many times on this thread , Zelenskyy is a hero. Hero to us and his people. Hope like hell he can make it through this! But if not, I’ll hope to see him someday beyond the clouds and buy him some drinks. 
 

 

 

We are with you in spirit! Keep fighting you total badass!! I loved seeing him this morning walking around. Hoping like hell he makes it! 

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2 minutes ago, BachelorTrek said:

HA!  That'll work better!  /Sarcasm

If Ukraine has any ZSU or ZPU quad-gun AA units, they can just mow them ruskie paratroops down in the air after their chutes open!

If Russia is serious about this I would expect them to go whole hog.  Pummel the LZ with artillery, drones and CAS on site to hit anything that still wiggles during approach and drop, then drop guys in the dark. At this point who the fuck knows though. The competence of the Russian military is severely in question. 

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1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

The lack of animus from the Russian solders side is telling. 

Yep, far from the Red Army terror of WWII.  Of course, then they were fighting nazis who had raped, murdered and pillaged their country for years.  Now they're going after their country cousins who've done nothing to warrant their presence. 

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4 hours ago, bolverk said:

Obviously can't vouch for the veracity of this, but it's all over Twitter:

 

 

4 hours ago, TejanoAtUT said:

The BBC is reporting the same. I'm wondering if this was an errant strike, or if this might be the first of targeted strikes at locations of people (or families of people) on Putin's hit list.

But the Russian U.N. Representative specifically said they weren’t bombing civilians.  Are you saying he was lying?  I’m shocked!

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