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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Gen Z: "Whatever"

Generation Z is beaten down by the idiocy of the generations fighting above it and is simply tuning it out and trying to ignore it. 

I mean what the hell would you have done at 17 years old with all this crap?  I was blasting ministry, NIN,  NWA, the cult, and the butthole surfers at full blast and didn’t have to deal with 1/8 of this type of bullshit. I was simply angry mad at the local cops writing speeding tickets and making it slightly more difficult for us to drink beer. 

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Hugo tinfoil:

I feel like we’re witnessing a coup by the whistleblower.  

The whistleblower is probably a small group of people in the IC that have a vault of information that can burn this administration to the ground. 

The Ukraine call might just be the opening salvo. 

This could also be the fruits of the counterintelligence investigation coming to light publicly.

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So Rudy is claiming attorney-client privilege in asserting he won't testify without Trump's blessing.  Sounds to me as if this implies his interactions with Ukrainian officials weren't on behalf of the US, but rather Trump, which kinda blows Trump's defense, doesn't it?

Yep. I made that point yesterday. If Rudy was acting as Trump’s atty...then it was outside the scope of the executive branch, and was likely unlawful.
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article235501772.html

 

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Two South Florida businessmen from the former Soviet Union could find themselves dragged into an impeachment inquiry targeting President Donald Trump over their political activities in Ukraine.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were cited — although not by name — in a government whistleblower complaint released Thursday alleging improper behavior by the president. Parnas and Fruman helped introduce Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, into top Ukrainian political circles, according to widespread media accounts.

 

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A July 25 telephone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy led House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to announce an impeachment inquiry earlier this week. During the call, Trump pressured his counterpart to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, sparking the whistleblower complaint and widespread public concern even from the administration’s Republican allies in Congress.

“The connections and associates which Giuliani had on President Trump’s behalf in Ukraine ... those really should be the heart of the investigative process,” said Kenneth F. McCallion, a former federal prosecutor and attorney for former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliya Tymoshenko in the United States.

 

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Reached on his cellphone Thursday, Parnas called the impeachment inquiry a “soap opera” and defended Trump.

“[Personally], it’s a headache. It’s upsetting, being dragged into something like this,” he said.

Parnas said Ukraine’s government has access to information on alleged wrongdoing by the Bidens and U.S. officials overseas — but that the U.S. government proved indifferent to receiving it through official channels. Thanks to his friendship with Giuliani, he said, he and Fruman became the best people to get it into the Trump administration’s hands. The information could affect the 2020 election.

 

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“I got certain information and I thought it was my duty to hand it over,” he said. He declined to comment on the details of his relationship with Giuliani, although he said the former New York City mayor was his lawyer as well as friend.

While Giuliani hoped to gather information damaging to Trump’s rivals, experts have largely dismissed claims that a conspiracy was afoot. Joe and Hunter Biden have denied wrongdoing. 

Parnas’ and Fruman’s newfound political prominence, including major donations to GOP candidates, belies a history of financial troubles.

Parnas is a former stockbroker who was threatened last year with eviction from a $5,500-per-month home in Boca Raton, court records show. His company was evicted in 2015 for failing to pay rent. The Ukrainian-American businessman is also at the center of a $325,000 donation to a pro-Trump super PAC that is under scrutiny from federal regulators. Details about that contribution were revealed only when an investor sued Parnas over a loan made for an unmade film Parnas was promoting called “Anatomy of an Assassin.”

Fruman, a real estate investor who also runs a New York import-export business dealing in coffee, baby food, ketchup and dairy products, and Parnas also allegedly bragged about their alliances with Republican power brokers like Giuliani and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in order to procure a six-figure loan from an investor for a natural gas business they run. But the men struggled to pay the investor back on time, leading to a lawsuit.

Their political efforts have met with some success. A month after meeting with Giuliani, Parnas and Fruman earlier this year, Ukrainian prosecutors announced an investigation into whether officials had attempted to swing the election in favor of Hillary Clinton, according to a detailed profile of Parnas and Fruman’s activities by Buzzfeed News and the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project. Trump called the allegations “big” and “incredible” on Fox News.

The whistleblower complaint expressed concern that Trump is “using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.” It repeatedly mentioned the role of Giuliani in Ukraine. And in three footnotes, the whistleblower cites media reports revealing how Parnas and Fruman were instrumental. The complaint refers to the men as “two associates of Mr. Giuliani.”

Giuliani has confirmed Parnas and Fruman are his legal clients. Fruman could not be reached Thursday. Attorneys who have represented him did not respond to requests for comment. Giuliani has said his efforts in Ukraine had the full support of the president.

Parnas, Fruman and their natural-gas company, Global Energy Producers, have given more than $400,000 to Republican candidates and committees supporting them in federal elections. The vast majority of that money has gone to committees supporting Trump, but Republican Florida Sen. Rick Scott is the next biggest beneficiary. In 2018, Fruman gave $15,000 to a joint-fundraising committee backing Scott’s Senate race. They also gave $50,000 to the campaign of DeSantis, a Trump ally, in June 2018 and $35,000 combined to a committee supporting failed Republican gubernatorial candidate Adam Putnam.

Together, Parnas and Fruman joined Donald Trump Jr. for breakfast in Beverly Hills last year, a deleted social media post obtained by BuzzFeed/OCCRP shows. Both men have been spotted at Trump properties, including Mar-a-Lago, according to published reports. Another photo shows Parnas at the White House with Trump earlier this year.

On the website of his current company, Fraud Guarantee, Parnas lists one of his early business ventures as “shipping the first containers of freight between the United States and the former Soviet Union in the early 1990s.” Fraud Guarantee, where he is co-founder and CEO, protects investors “from losses due to fraud,” according to the website. Parnas has been repeatedly sued over alleged unpaid debts and rents in Palm Beach County courts. (“I don’t know anybody that has only good in their business,” Parnas said Thursday. “I’ve never done anything illegal, I’ve never been charged, I’ve never been near anything like that.”)

In addition to his interests in real estate and shipping, Fruman is the president of the Ukrainian-based Otrada Luxury Group, which sells cars, jewelry, boats, food and alcohol, according to a company pamphlet. He lives in Sunny Isles Beach, public records show, which is also the location of Seafront Properties, LLC, for which he is the registered agent. He has “personal ties” to a powerful businessman in the Ukrainian port city of Odessa called “the Grey Cardinal” who is believed to associate with organized crime figures, according to OCCRP, an international consortium of investigative journalists.

THE EASTERN FRONT

On May 17, 2018, a Delaware shell company called Global Energy Producers contributed $325,000 to America First Action, a pro-Trump super PAC, according to federal campaign finance records. Parnas was described as the CEO of the firm and Fruman as the president in unrelated documents.

It was their big introduction into GOP politics and a world of international intrigue.

The next year, Parnas would prove crucial in setting up meetings between Giuliani and former Ukrainian prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko, according to the New York Times.

Giuliani was said to be primarily seeking two things: Information about how material damaging to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was publicly leaked in Ukraine. And an agreement from Ukraine’s government to investigate the involvement of Biden’s son in a Ukrainian energy company, which could hinder Biden’s campaign against Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

Thanks to Parnas, Giuliani spoke on the phone with Lutsenko and met with him for several hours in New York City in January, the Times reported. They reportedly met again in Warsaw in February.

“[Lutsenko] brought documentation, verification. It opened Giuliani’s eyes,” Parnas told reporters at Buzzfeed and OCCRP, saying the information could aid Attorney General William Barr’s inquiry into the origins of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, as well as the 2020 election.

“It’s all going to come out,” Parnas added. “Something terrible happened and we’re finally going to get to the bottom of it.”

All told, Parnas and Fruman introduced Giuliani to three current and former Ukrainian prosecutors, according to OCCRP.

Although both men have claimed to open doors in Ukraine for Giuliani, neither is registered as a foreign agent with the U.S. Justice Department. Whether they need to is murky, in part, because of Giuliani’s unusual status as someone doing the bidding of the U.S. president while not actually an appointed official. 

After the Times story in May, Giuliani canceled his planned visit to Ukraine.

He did however meet with an adviser to Ukraine’s president in Madrid in August, according to the whistleblower complaint. 

The $325,000 donation to the Trump super PAC was the subject of a complaint by a nonpartisan watchdog group to the Federal Election Commission last year. The Campaign Legal Center said Global Energy Partners did not have assets required to make such a hefty donation and that the funds had in fact come from an unknown source.

“We’ve seen that these two shady characters managed to buy their way into Trump world with a $325,000 super PAC contribution and then leveraged the access the contribution afforded to push this highly dubious scheme in Ukraine,” Brendan Fischer of the Campaign Legal Center said in an interview Thursday.

More details about the source of the money have been revealed in a civil lawsuit filed in federal court.

In the lawsuit, an investor in a movie-deal-gone-bad won a judgment worth more than $500,000 plus interest against Parnas. Wire transfers unveiled in the lawsuit showed that the money had not been donated to the Trump super PAC by Global Energy Partners but by another company managed by Parnas, according to a supplemental complaint lodged by the CLC in June.

“America First Action violated the law by filing this false report, which has kept the public in the dark about the true sources of its support. Parnas, Fruman, or others who engineered this scheme also violated the law by laundering the contribution through LLCs,” the complaint stated. “But we still don’t know where the money actually came from. The FEC should find out.”

America First Action said it could not comment on “ongoing legal matters.”

“We take our legal obligations seriously and scrupulously comply with the law,” the group said in a statement.

Parnas said Thursday the money came from the sale of a Miami-area condo and that the donation was legitimate. On Thursday, the Daily Beast published a story confirming that a company linked to Fruman had sold a Bal Harbour condo for $4.1 million.

Tony Andre, a South Florida attorney helping the jilted movie investor recover the judgment, said his research has found Parnas’ finances to be opaque. 

“His financial dealings seem questionable when you consider his history of non-payments of debts,” Andre said Thursday. 

MYSTERY MEN

It’s not clear how Parnas, Fruman and New York’s former mayor got to know each other.

Giuliani has been mixed into the complicated Ukrainian political scene for more than a decade. A confidential State Department cable, sent from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev back to headquarters and published by Wikileaks, described how Giuliani was seeking to help former heavyweight boxing champion Vitaliy Klitschko in his bid to enter the political ring there.

According to BuzzFeed/OCCRP, Parnas came to the United States in 1976 when he was 4. 

A check of Parnas on the website BrokerCheck, operated by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA), shows him associated with three companies that have been expelled from the industry’s self-regulating body. Parnas worked in the securities business since 1994, sometimes using the name Larry Parnell, but has not been a registered broker since 2009, when the North Miami Beach company he worked for, Basis Financial, LLC, was expelled.

In a settlement with the body, Basis Financial’s owners admitted to a range of misrepresentations and misconduct and FINRA determined the company failed to establish anti-money-laundering policies.

In 2003, another Parnas-associated company, Program Trading Corp., in Boca Raton, was expelled from FINRA. Parnas had a stake of 25-to-50 percent in the company, through his Florida company Aaron Investment Group, according to documents. FINRA expelled the company after it refused to pay fines and settle with the National Association of Securities Dealers, which accused Program Trading of malfeasance.

Parnas was also a broker in the mid 1990s with Euro-Atlantic Securities, Inc. That firm was at the center of a stock fraud prosecution in New York in 2001 involving several alleged organized crime figures. Parnas had left the company by the time indictments were brought for stock-price manipulation.

He has never been personally charged.

Born in Belarus, Fruman spent years in Ukraine before migrating to Miami where, in 2005, he married Yelyzaveta Naumova, also a Ukrainian national. Naumova filed for divorce in 2017, records show.

Fruman ran an import/export business and owned a boutique hotel in Odessa, Ukraine, according to BuzzFeed/OCCRP. A milk canning plant he invested in went bankrupt after going nearly $25 million in debt, the news organizations reported.

In March, Russian-born businessman Felix Vulis sued Fruman and Parnas after Global Energy Producers failed to pay back a $100,000 loan from Vulis last September. The two parties agreed to a settlement for an undisclosed amount last month.

In order to procure the loan, Fruman and his associates at GEP bragged about his connections to Giuliani, the complaint said. In March of 2018, Fruman and Parnas attended a Trump donor meeting at Mar-a-Lago as a kickoff event for Trump’s 2020 campaign, according to OCCRP. Their biggest donation came two months later.

Paperwork for the $325,000 contribution to the Trump super PAC lists a home in Boca Raton as an address for Global Energy Partners. Parnas confirmed it was his residence. 

Reached Thursday, Victor Imber, the man who owns that home, said “Who is Lev Parnas?” and hung up the phone.

 

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24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Yep. I made that point yesterday. If Rudy was acting as Trump’s atty...then it was outside the scope of the executive branch, and was likely unlawful.

“Likely unlawful” is certainly a charitable way of putting it. 

According to trump’s open version of the conversation with Ukraine, which was no doubt an attempt to at least try to put a positive spin on it, candidate trump, his personal attorney, and the US attorney general were conspiring to help trump’s election by withholding money to a foreign country until they did their own personal bidding. 

Treason is the word for that, and like trump says, you know what the country used to do to traitors. Ask Bill Weld. 

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The Republican Party is now a criminal organization being led by an incompetent narcissistic crime boss on the verge of complete dementia. If that’s how they want to be remembered so be it. Its up to the normal people to hold them accountable for their crimes. 

Thank God the Democrats took control of the House last year and have the ability to do something about it. Let the criminals in the RNC and Fox News spew out their bullshit. History will judge them accordingly. Impeach his ass and if the Republican Party criminal organization stands behind their crime boss, let history judge their fate. 

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

But no, it’s the boomer Republicans who lived through the bulk of the Cold War, and who swore they’d rather be dead than red.  

One last, final to maintain power. Don’t forget massive voter suppression attempts, straight out of the Stalin playbook 

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3 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Don’t let any of these cocksuckers blame this on having no choice, because Hillary.  They had a primary and willfully selected DONALD TRUMP to represent their party.  A known liar, crook, adulterous piece of shit. 

Have you heard about Hillary’s emails ???

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10 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

The president needs me. I think I will triple my past contributions which somebody will quadruple match. How can dear Donald offer a quadruple match, is that legal? It must be if he's doing it.

And he really cares about my support. He instructed his team to bring him my donor records! Maybe he was in Air Force One when he read my name. The Libs won't turn us into a socialist republic filled with nigras and Messicans on my watch!

We gotta fight those Hollywood fags and Crazy Joe, and Lazy Bernie and Pocahontas!

KAG!!!!!!

 

 

$50 and ask to be appointed Ambassador to Aruba.

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4 minutes ago, Stilicho said:

They don't care.  About any of this.  Your average American Republican cares only about money, status, superiority, and cruelty.  Where they find themselves on the current socio-economic ladder determines which category pegs out their "give a shit" meter.  

They're enjoying all of this.

I believe the Honourable Edmund Burke said it best:

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Generation Z is beaten down by the idiocy of the generations fighting above it and is simply tuning it out and trying to ignore it. 
I mean what the hell would you have done at 17 years old with all this crap?  I was blasting ministry, NIN,  NWA, the cult, and the butthole surfers at full blast and didn’t have to deal with 1/8 of this type of bullshit. I was simply angry mad at the local cops writing speeding tickets and making it slightly more difficult for us to drink beer. 

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world
So there was only one thing that I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:


That’s exactly right. There is no rehabilitation. This is what they are. It’s ALL that they are.
Fuck em all.

That is the description of a gutless coward. I would love to meet some of these clowns and tell them exactly what I think of them as human beings. Just cowards who give zero shits about our country. 

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