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10 hours ago, shnsajax said:

 


Problem is the stupid vote is also the rural vote. The same vote the GOP is purposely trying to segregate from education and benefits and blame the democrats as being the root cause.

Thankfully they are slowly dying off.

 

The country's only about 20% rural now.  How many more would you have to kill off to be happy?

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I kind of expect her not to endorse anyone. 

It would be extremely on-brand for her.

Joe is the careerist play.

Bernie is the morally right play.

Squandering all your momentum and influence for months and then coming back in June and being like, "OK I'M READY TO ENDORSE!" to a room full of chirping crickets is exactly the kind of political acumen she's displayed over and over.

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26 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It would be extremely on-brand for her.

Joe is the careerist play.

Bernie is the morally right play.

Squandering all your momentum and influence for months and then coming back in June and being like, "OK I'M READY TO ENDORSE!" to a room full of chirping crickets is exactly the kind of political acumen she's displayed over and over.

Unless you are a senior advisor on the Bernie campaign, dont presume that they will give her a role for her support. They didn't bring out the youth vote in the numbers they said or make their case to a wider group of voters. When I took that quiz we had on here, Pete and Amy scored higher but I backed Warren even though I didnt see eye to eye about everything or found some changes to be out of my comfort zone. I hope she steers the party to more progressive policies, but it will likely be Joe's people that are more willing to work with her than Bernie's. I heard one on NPR say something to the affect of he wishes her well. Like a total fuck off. So don't blame her for that.

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10 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Unless you are a senior advisor on the Bernie campaign, dont presume that they will give her a role for her support. They didn't bring out the youth vote in the numbers they said or make their case to a wider group of voters. When I took that quiz we had on here, Pete and Amy scored higher but I backed Warren even though I didnt see eye to eye about everything or found some changes to be out of my comfort zone. I hope she steers the party to more progressive policies, but it will likely be Joe's people that are more willing to work with her than Bernie's. I heard one on NPR say something to the affect of he wishes her well. Like a total fuck off. So don't blame her for that.

You are inventing stuff to be mad about in your brain. Just creating entire scenarios in your mind palace to piss yourself off.

lol

 

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6 hours ago, tantric superman said:

So future attorney general? 

Don't want her near the VP slot.   It's not that she was 3rd in her home state.

But she was third in her home state.

This is kind of fascinating.  While MA is one of the most educated states, I think it's imbalanced by Boston and the eastern MA college towns.  The rest of the state is wicked bad morons.

But it may also speak to something else as you'd think they state that elected her Senator might have some home-town favoritism.

Also, after reading Knight's article, I can see my own myopia.  I don't think the morons see the "corruption problem" as one of corruption or gaming the system that can be fixed by a set of rules that can't be gamed.  They prefer Sanders' class warfare approach, or view it as free shit that doesn't cost anyone anything.

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15 hours ago, Zavala said:

THE GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT AND INEFFICIENT, LET'S EXPAND IT AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE!

 

15 hours ago, Zavala said:

Step 1: call the other guy racist

Step 2: promise free shit

 

I take it that you support the present combination of soaring deficits accompanied by fewer services and benefits.

Oh, and don't forget Senate-protected lawlessness.

I know I know. You don't support Trump. Of course.

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I dont know why you keep saying that. I told you what I heard a Bernie spox say on NPR. It sounded like they weren't seeking her endorsement. So you just posted something Bernie said more recently than this morning. It contradicts your take that she will wait until June so again, your takes are flawed. But thanks for the update from Bernie.

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27 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

You made yourself mad imaging a scenario in which Sanders is a rude jerk to her. He's not. He never has been.

 

That's pretty gracious of Bern considering, at face value, it seems her staying in the race hurts him and helps Biden.

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Although I voted for her, I don't think Warren would make a good VP pick for either candidate. I don't think her vision is really compatible with Biden's and being on the ticket with Bernie would be progressive overload without enlarging Bernie's coalition.

Kamala is the best choice for both.

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On 2/8/2019 at 5:05 AM, Bookman said:

She's done. She let Trump brand her Pocahontas and the only way to recover is by actually being Native American.

I'm about 10% Native American, which is probably more than Elizabeth Warren, and it's never even occurred to me to claim I'm a Native American.

Still think this is a reason why she never caught on. Or maybe she was too far left for the moderates and too far right for the Bernie Bros. Or maybe it's because she's a woman. I don't know, but she ran an impressive campaign, and I expected her to do better, but I wonder what her strategy is now.

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15 hours ago, berlinerbaer said:

Although I voted for her, I don't think Warren would make a good VP pick for either candidate. I don't think her vision is really compatible with Biden's and being on the ticket with Bernie would be progressive overload without enlarging Bernie's coalition.

Kamala is the best choice for both.

I think Klobuchar is the better pick, although I love Kamala. Either candidate is already going to win California and the African American vote. Amy helps in the Midwest, which imo cost Hillary the election. Definitely gets Minnesota, which went blue last time, but I think also helps in Wisconsin, Iowa, and Missouri. She's further left than Biden and further right than Bernie. 

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On 2/19/2020 at 12:16 PM, washparkhorn said:

It is not a wasted vote. Even if she doesn't prevail, your vote sends a statement that Warren voters are engaged in the election and deserve a seat at the table when going after Trump. 

The progressives should have never split. That was a political miscalculation. But it is water under the bridge. Please stay engaged. 

Keep up the good fight. 

Bloomberg was monumental threat to our battered democracy. Warren disemboweled him in public. Thank you Elizabeth. 

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32 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Keep up the good fight. 

Bloomberg was monumental threat to our battered democracy. Warren disemboweled him in public. Thank you Elizabeth. 

My one issue with this is that Warren had every bit as much ammo to go after Biden in the exact same way. She chose not to, and, if she really is the progressive she claims to be, I have no idea why.

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2 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

We need the bros to get on board with this as well. That's my biggest concern.

Yep.  This is bigger than them and their revolution.  And again, it works both ways.  If Bernie wins out, it is on us to convince anyone we know that is afraid of Bernie that this is bigger than their stupid fears of socialism.

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13 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yep.  This is bigger than them and their revolution.  And again, it works both ways.  If Bernie wins out, it is on us to convince anyone we know that is afraid of Bernie that this is bigger than their stupid fears of socialism.

Concern is well taken.  

That fight needs to move on to the #neverbernie bros as well who dominate the media. 

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