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7 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

Forgive me as obviously I joined this thread way late. Who is behind this antivaxxer nonsense? I can legitimately get if someone wants to wait it out a while before taking or is like me and has had COVID so I don't see the point of taking a rushed vaccine but if I hadn't of had COVID I would be 1st in line. There has to be a motive behind it. 

I don't wish to clutter the COVID thread, so here are links to other threads for you to read:

 

They are a somewhat mixed group demographically. Initially, the outcry was loudest with Wakefield, the disgraced 'vaccines cause autism' guy, but once that took hold and with the addition of grifters and conmen, the field has expanded and foreign agents have capitalized on the dissent.

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5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Still can’t just bring yourself to admit it huh? Such a strange choice to go to bat for someone you supposedly don’t like.

Jesus, you won't stop. What are you referencing now? Some of you are exhausting. 

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1 minute ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

Jesus, you won't stop. What are you referencing now? 

Probably not. Trolls don’t like being trolled.

You could simply be honest. I know that’s tough for someone who struggles to understand the difference between fact and opinion. I’m on the exact same thing I’ve been on. Who lies more?

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4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Back to COVID.

 

Wait- if his company lost money, that means that his followers didn't spend it on the conference. While they might have just bought another TV or bucket of chicken, it's possible that this move actually was closer to his economic philosophy and teaching than he imagines.

You know a better way to help your constituents save money? Instead of charging $10K for a ticket, charge $500 and stream it the way every other conference is doing.

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Wait- if his company lost money, that means that his followers didn't spend it on the conference. While they might have just bought another TV or bucket of chicken, it's possible that this move actually was closer to your economic philosophy and teaching than you imagine.

You know a better way to help your constituents save money? Instead of charging $10K for a ticket, charge $500 and stream it the way every other conference is doing.

When I first saw the tweet, I thought 'no way he said that.' Read the article, and that was from the recorded meeting, so yes he said that.

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Probably not. Trolls don’t like being trolled.

You could simply be honest. I know that’s tough for someone who struggles to understand the difference between fact and opinion. I’m on the exact same thing I’ve been on. Who lies more?

I gave you an answer you didn't like it. They both lie a lot. Trump has lied more in the last 4 yrs Biden has lied more in the last 47. They both have issues with the truth. Keep asking me and that's what you'll get. It's a sad question to be honest because 1 is our current president and 1 is becoming our president. 

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1 minute ago, NWBuck said:

Wait- if his company lost money, that means that his followers didn't spend it on the conference. While they might have just bought another TV or bucket of chicken, it's possible that this move actually was closer to your economic philosophy and teaching than you imagine.

You know a better way to help your constituents save money? Instead of charging $10K for a ticket, charge $500 and stream it the way every other conference is doing.

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2 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

I gave you an answer you didn't like it. They both lie a lot. Trump has lied more in the last 4 yrs Biden has lied more in the last 47. They both have issues with the truth. Keep asking me and that's what you'll get. It's a sad question to be honest because 1 is our current president and 1 is becoming our president. 

So does my 4 year old daughter. But she's not seeking to overthrow a valid election.

Or, let me guess, you're a former Obama voter who thinks Trump really won the election?

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3 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

I gave you an answer you didn't like it. They both lie a lot. Trump has lied more in the last 4 yrs Biden has lied more in the last 47. They both have issues with the truth. Keep asking me and that's what you'll get. It's a sad question to be honest because 1 is our current president and 1 is becoming our president. 

You didn’t give an answer actually. We all know the answer. It isn’t your opinion. One of them lies more than the other. Which one? Now I can see that you have trouble with fact vs opinion and honesty in general but why do you choose to lie and obfuscate for Donald Trump? You claim not to support him, so why do you?

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2 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

I gave you an answer you didn't like it. They both lie a lot. Trump has lied more in the last 4 yrs Biden has lied more in the last 47. They both have issues with the truth. Keep asking me and that's what you'll get. It's a sad question to be honest because 1 is our current president and 1 is becoming our president. 

So....and this is an important next step for someone using any logical reasoning.....that means that Trump is worse.  If it was "Trump has beaten more children in the past 4 years than Biden has in the last 47," that would mean that Trump is worse.  Pick your transgression, particularly one relevant to the job/office -- if one of them has committed that transgression more in the past 4 years than the other guy has in the past 47, that makes the 4 year guy much less suited for the office.

It's not hard.  Trump is bad.  He's bad for the office, he's a bad person, who does bad things.  He does them a lot -- more than anyone else in modern American history in a similar position.  That makes him worse than the other people.  Again, it's not fucking hard.

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11 minutes ago, Foosters said:

So does my 4 year old daughter. But she's not seeking to overthrow a valid election.

Or, let me guess, you're a former Obama voter who thinks Trump really won the election?

WTF? Are you reading what I'm saying here? Where did you get that? In fact, in the post above I even said Biden is going to be our next president. Biden won obviously. Isn't there a thread for election stuff? Where did I say Biden didn't win? I have a feeling you want to think I have a huge lifted truck with 2 Trump flags and I live in a trailer in WV listening to Alex Jones all day. 

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4 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

WTF? Are you reading what I'm saying here? Where did you get that? In fact, in the post above I even said Biden is going to be our next president. Biden won obviously. Isn't there a thread for election stuff? Where did I say Biden didn't win? 

Tedious.

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32 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Back to COVID.

FTR, I know some folks who have used his technique to get control of their finances. He's got some issues, though.

How the fuck do you get out of debt paying Dave Ramsey 10K for a ticket?  That guy helped a bunch of people 20 years ago with a cheap (free if you truly couldn’t afford it) home finance course. WTF happened to him 

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7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

How the fuck do you get out of debt paying Dave Ramsey 10K for a ticket?  That guy helped a bunch of people 20 years ago with a cheap (free if you truly couldn’t afford it) home finance course. WTF happened to him 

Looks like he got the fever for failure. He has some good basic advice, but that medium trends strongly towards the orange cult. 

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4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Well this thread is a complete shit show.

It's hilarious the bad rep the cloak room gets when this dumbass would have gotten crowd sourced on any other sub. Butttt here people try to reason with him. No no no, please answer our numerous questions that you've been ignoring, we're sure you missed it. 

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8 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Apparently up to 1/3 of people get sick from the vaccine. Not dangerously ill but make you feel like shit enough to need to miss a few days of work. May need to take into account when vaccinating ER OR and ICU staff 

Apparently people with food allergies have a negative reaction to the Pfizer vaccine?  Mrs AB is allergic to fish so scratch her.  The food allergy thing covers a significant number of people.

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2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Sorry that I’m using this thread as my personal “Verge of a breakdown blog” but I can’t use my real life social media. The hospital frowns upon that sort of thing; something about “freaking out the community” lol.

Got home at 1:30 AM. Crashed out on a chair in our den. Just woke up a few minutes ago. I have a headache and my body is all stove up. (Not Covid aches; just late 40s, I overworked myself middle aged lady side effects).

I’m heading back to the hospital at 2:00 to finish the reorganization of our bed situation.

And on a completely irrelevant and shallow note, I look like hammered dogshit. I’ve gained weight from eating crap because I have no time to shop healthy, much less have time to cook and I haven’t gone to the gym since April. My skin is a mess from stress, exhaustion, and I haven’t been to my facialist but once in 9 months. The bags under my eyes would be charged an overweight fee at the airport. My hair is too long and gnarly because I haven’t been to the stylist since March. Same with my nails.

Obviously, none of that shit truly matters but I have a fairly public facing career and I feel more confident when I look nice so on top of stress and fear and frustration, my confidence is shit too. And while I know I’m still good at my job, my overall mental state does have an impact.

Again, sorry to emotion vomit everywhere but it helps me to anonymously get it off my chest here so I can let some of it out of my head.

God, all I want to do is crawl back in bed and sleep for three days but duty calls!!

You should go to the emotional/depression thread in the Help forum. Cactus is really responsive and supportive.

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

I am not understanding the logic.

  • We have millions who took the virus seriously and did not get sick, but they will have equal standing for a vaccine with those who contracted the illness and should have some immunity from the virus?
  • Moreover, among those who contracted the disease, some were anti-mask and worse. But the anti-maskers who contracted the illness will have the same footing as those who took every reason precaution to prevent the spread of the disease? 

Perverse incentive in play here, no? 

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(An example of akrasia (lack of self-control to act in one's best interest), as well? - https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/weakness-will/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akrasia)

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4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Sorry that I’m using this thread as my personal “Verge of a breakdown blog” but I can’t use my real life social media. The hospital frowns upon that sort of thing; something about “freaking out the community” lol.

Got home at 1:30 AM. Crashed out on a chair in our den. Just woke up a few minutes ago. I have a headache and my body is all stove up. (Not Covid aches; just late 40s, I overworked myself middle aged lady side effects).

I’m heading back to the hospital at 2:00 to finish the reorganization of our bed situation.

And on a completely irrelevant and shallow note, I look like hammered dogshit. I’ve gained weight from eating crap because I have no time to shop healthy, much less have time to cook and I haven’t gone to the gym since April. My skin is a mess from stress, exhaustion, and I haven’t been to my facialist but once in 9 months. The bags under my eyes would be charged an overweight fee at the airport. My hair is too long and gnarly because I haven’t been to the stylist since March. Same with my nails.

Obviously, none of that shit truly matters but I have a fairly public facing career and I feel more confident when I look nice so on top of stress and fear and frustration, my confidence is shit too. And while I know I’m still good at my job, my overall mental state does have an impact.

Again, sorry to emotion vomit everywhere but it helps me to anonymously get it off my chest here so I can let some of it out of my head.

God, all I want to do is crawl back in bed and sleep for three days but duty calls!!

Not being cliched when I say this but thank you for your service.  I mean that.  You're helping keep this country together right now and you prolly feel very under appreciated. Just remember that you helped us get through the Great Pandemic of 2020.  

Thanks from a grateful nation.

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7 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Sorry that I’m using this thread as my personal “Verge of a breakdown blog” but I can’t use my real life social media. The hospital frowns upon that sort of thing; something about “freaking out the community” lol.

Got home at 1:30 AM. Crashed out on a chair in our den. Just woke up a few minutes ago. I have a headache and my body is all stove up. (Not Covid aches; just late 40s, I overworked myself middle aged lady side effects).

I’m heading back to the hospital at 2:00 to finish the reorganization of our bed situation.

And on a completely irrelevant and shallow note, I look like hammered dogshit. I’ve gained weight from eating crap because I have no time to shop healthy, much less have time to cook and I haven’t gone to the gym since April. My skin is a mess from stress, exhaustion, and I haven’t been to my facialist but once in 9 months. The bags under my eyes would be charged an overweight fee at the airport. My hair is too long and gnarly because I haven’t been to the stylist since March. Same with my nails.

Obviously, none of that shit truly matters but I have a fairly public facing career and I feel more confident when I look nice so on top of stress and fear and frustration, my confidence is shit too. And while I know I’m still good at my job, my overall mental state does have an impact.

Again, sorry to emotion vomit everywhere but it helps me to anonymously get it off my chest here so I can let some of it out of my head.

God, all I want to do is crawl back in bed and sleep for three days but duty calls!!

Thank you for your work on the front line of this war.  Don't worry about your looks; warriors always look like hell when they are fighting their hardest.

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40 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Someone commented that Ted was just mad that Justin Trudeau's beard is on fleek and Ted looks like he's got a skunk on his face.

This was Ted's tweet:

 

If he runs for president in 2024 someone at a debate needs to fuck off with decorum and just ask him point blank: why are you such a little bitch?

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Y’all are sweet.

I got home last night at 8:00, I think? Better than midnight.

Ordered a pizza - more crappy food, yay! But fuck expending the energy to, ya know, cook.

Settled in to cuddle with my dog and watch some Netflix. Apparently crashed out around 9:30ish.

Just woke up at 5:00 AM with all the lights on and still wearing my glasses and shoes and clothes lol. Proceeded to panic because I wasn’t quite sure where I was, what day it was, and convinced I had overslept for something.

I’m going to try and fall back asleep but that may be and impossible and futile enterprise.

But my sweet ole dog hasn’t left my side. They know when we need them and thank god for that.

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