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3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

So a kid in my wife's preschool class drops the bombshell yesterday that his sister has covid.  My wife was pretty much "WTF?" and went to the owner of the school, who called his parents, and learned that yes, in fact his sister tested positive 7 days prior.  They held the son out until yesterday (day 7), but brought him back and told nobody about his sister.

He tested positive today.  (He's not at school, he only attends Tue/Th.)

I am so god-damned pissed.  Fortunately, my wife is 2X vaxxed with Moderna, and she and the kids all wear masks indoors (roughly 2.5 hours of the day, with 1.5 hours outside, where she was not in close contact with him).  Still, this is clear exposure.  Now we have to figure out the process going forward.  

Fuck me running.

Small percentage are actually telling people of incidents or covid, much less exposures. They don't want to have to keep their kids at home. Doesn't help most employer hr policies are absolute shit for assisting parents of sick children during a pandemic.

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5 minutes ago, pacman said:

Small percentage are actually telling people of incidents or covid, much less exposures. They don't want to have to keep their kids at home. Doesn't help most employer hr policies are absolute shit for assisting parents of sick children during a pandemic.

Yeah, my wife gets a 3.5 day (minimum) "vacation" from her pay, along with her assistant, and 7 other kids don't get to go to school until at least next Tuesday. 

Thanks, Karen. 

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10 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Cashell?

Yes, Bette Middler played her in the hit Broadway musical, "Cashell, Cashell!" 

A young Pharmacist's erotic journey from Walgreens to Merck.

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What am I missing?  Why do Republican megadonors continue to spend money on creating this division?  They have shit tons of money, are they happy to watch the world burn if it means they'll save a dollar on their taxes?  I continue to be shocked how people who have made enough money to be considered a megadonor would have such inability to see the big picture.

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5 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

What am I missing?  Why do Republican megadonors continue to spend money on creating this division?  They have shit tons of money, are they happy to watch the world burn if it means they'll save a dollar on their taxes?  I continue to be shocked how people who have made enough money to be considered a megadonor would have such inability to see the big picture.

Power, power, power. That's all it is.

Personally, if I ever had enough money to be considered a "megadonor" these people would never hear from me again. I'd be on a beach somewhere earning 20%.

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

Personally, if I ever had enough money to be considered a "megadonor" these people would never hear from me again. I'd be on a beach somewhere earning 20%.

This! I want to be completely ignored with the exception of the cabana boy keeping the G&T fresh and the sunscreen handy. Although tbh, I'd rather be in a wee house near the North Sea and a cloudy windy day with the waves whipping the shoreline. I can pour my own poteen if folks will just leave me and the Mr. alone.

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1 hour ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

What am I missing?  Why do Republican megadonors continue to spend money on creating this division?  They have shit tons of money, are they happy to watch the world burn if it means they'll save a dollar on their taxes?  I continue to be shocked how people who have made enough money to be considered a megadonor would have such inability to see the big picture.

Because they make money on the rise, and the dip.  Chaos breeds opportunity for those with lots of capital.   Crash the economy, make property values plummet.....who buys up jillions of acres for cheap?  The guys with billions to spend.

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2 hours ago, C-Man said:

Power, power, power. That's all it is.

Personally, if I ever had enough money to be considered a "megadonor" these people would never hear from me again. I'd be on a beach somewhere earning 20%.

It’s a pathology. Super rich people are constantly treated like they are smarter and better than everyone and that they can fix things and they come to believe it is true. 
 

Evidence: Rex Tillerson could have retired to his ranch with 130 million dollars and played with horses and traveled all day. Instead he decided to destroy the State Department and believed he could manage a primeval force of chaos and now he gets to be remembered on historians’ “all time worst” lists. 

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Did I miss this somehow? Man kills his brother and two women over COVID vaccines/govt conspiracy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-accused-killing-3-wanted-confront-pharmacist-brother-over-covid-n1280977

A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and two other people had complained that he falsely believed his brother was harming people with the Covid-19 vaccines, court documents say.

They say that Burnham's mother told police that he said he wanted to confront his pharmacist brother about his false belief that the government is poisoning people with the Covid-19 vaccines and that Burnham had said, "Brian knows something."

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A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and two other people had complained that he falsely believed his brother was harming people with the Covid-19 vaccines, court documents say.

The man, Jeffrey Burnham, 46, was arrested Friday in the killings of his brother, his sister-in-law and another woman who were slain in two communities more than 100 miles apart, police said.

Brian Robinette, 58, and Kelly Sue Robinette, 57, were found fatally shot last Thursday in their home in Ellicott City, near Baltimore, police said. Rebecca Reynolds, 83, had been found dead the night before in Cumberland, and her car was stolen, police have said.

Burnham, who lives in Cumberland, was arrested Friday in West Virginia.

He faces multiple counts of murder and is being held without bail in Allegany County, where Cumberland is, records show.

Online court records did not appear to list an attorney for him Wednesday night.

Charging documents filed in court do not spell out a suspected motive in the killings. They say that Burnham's mother told police that he said he wanted to confront his pharmacist brother about his false belief that the government is poisoning people with the Covid-19 vaccines and that Burnham had said, "Brian knows something."

Burnham's mother had called police and said her son was saying the FBI was after them, which made her worry about his mental stability, the documents say.

Burnham is alleged to have taken his brother's Corvette and stopped at someone's home asking for gas after the killings. He said that the person would see him on TV and that his brother was "killing people with the Covid shot," according to the charging document. That person called state police.

Burnham is charged with one count of murder and a vehicle theft charge in Allegany County, according to online court records.

He faces additional murder charges and other counts in Howard County. The prosecutor's office is going through the indictment process. The Howard County State's Attorney's Office declined to comment Wednesday because the case is ongoing.

Reynolds was a classmate of Burnham's mother. When Burnham was arrested in West Virginia, he had flagged down a fire department member and said he had killed three people, NBC affiliate WBAL of Baltimore reported, citing state police.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Did I miss this somehow? Man kills his brother and two women over COVID vaccines/govt conspiracy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-accused-killing-3-wanted-confront-pharmacist-brother-over-covid-n1280977

A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and two other people had complained that he falsely believed his brother was harming people with the Covid-19 vaccines, court documents say.

They say that Burnham's mother told police that he said he wanted to confront his pharmacist brother about his false belief that the government is poisoning people with the Covid-19 vaccines and that Burnham had said, "Brian knows something."

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A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and two other people had complained that he falsely believed his brother was harming people with the Covid-19 vaccines, court documents say.

The man, Jeffrey Burnham, 46, was arrested Friday in the killings of his brother, his sister-in-law and another woman who were slain in two communities more than 100 miles apart, police said.

Brian Robinette, 58, and Kelly Sue Robinette, 57, were found fatally shot last Thursday in their home in Ellicott City, near Baltimore, police said. Rebecca Reynolds, 83, had been found dead the night before in Cumberland, and her car was stolen, police have said.

Burnham, who lives in Cumberland, was arrested Friday in West Virginia.

He faces multiple counts of murder and is being held without bail in Allegany County, where Cumberland is, records show.

Online court records did not appear to list an attorney for him Wednesday night.

Charging documents filed in court do not spell out a suspected motive in the killings. They say that Burnham's mother told police that he said he wanted to confront his pharmacist brother about his false belief that the government is poisoning people with the Covid-19 vaccines and that Burnham had said, "Brian knows something."

Burnham's mother had called police and said her son was saying the FBI was after them, which made her worry about his mental stability, the documents say.

Burnham is alleged to have taken his brother's Corvette and stopped at someone's home asking for gas after the killings. He said that the person would see him on TV and that his brother was "killing people with the Covid shot," according to the charging document. That person called state police.

Burnham is charged with one count of murder and a vehicle theft charge in Allegany County, according to online court records.

He faces additional murder charges and other counts in Howard County. The prosecutor's office is going through the indictment process. The Howard County State's Attorney's Office declined to comment Wednesday because the case is ongoing.

Reynolds was a classmate of Burnham's mother. When Burnham was arrested in West Virginia, he had flagged down a fire department member and said he had killed three people, NBC affiliate WBAL of Baltimore reported, citing state police.

 

 

What you need to understand is that the deranged MAGAts are absolutely willing to murder us for their beliefs.  Are we willing to murder people for our beliefs?  NO?  That's good.   That's also why we're going to lose.

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Did I miss this somehow? Man kills his brother and two women over COVID vaccines/govt conspiracy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-accused-killing-3-wanted-confront-pharmacist-brother-over-covid-n1280977
A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and two other people had complained that he falsely believed his brother was harming people with the Covid-19 vaccines, court documents say.
They say that Burnham's mother told police that he said he wanted to confront his pharmacist brother about his false belief that the government is poisoning people with the Covid-19 vaccines and that Burnham had said, "Brian knows something."
Spoiler

A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother and two other people had complained that he falsely believed his brother was harming people with the Covid-19 vaccines, court documents say.
The man, Jeffrey Burnham, 46, was arrested Friday in the killings of his brother, his sister-in-law and another woman who were slain in two communities more than 100 miles apart, police said.
Brian Robinette, 58, and Kelly Sue Robinette, 57, were found fatally shot last Thursday in their home in Ellicott City, near Baltimore, police said. Rebecca Reynolds, 83, had been found dead the night before in Cumberland, and her car was stolen, police have said.

Burnham, who lives in Cumberland, was arrested Friday in West Virginia.
He faces multiple counts of murder and is being held without bail in Allegany County, where Cumberland is, records show.
Online court records did not appear to list an attorney for him Wednesday night.
Charging documents filed in court do not spell out a suspected motive in the killings. They say that Burnham's mother told police that he said he wanted to confront his pharmacist brother about his false belief that the government is poisoning people with the Covid-19 vaccines and that Burnham had said, "Brian knows something."
Burnham's mother had called police and said her son was saying the FBI was after them, which made her worry about his mental stability, the documents say.
Burnham is alleged to have taken his brother's Corvette and stopped at someone's home asking for gas after the killings. He said that the person would see him on TV and that his brother was "killing people with the Covid shot," according to the charging document. That person called state police.
Burnham is charged with one count of murder and a vehicle theft charge in Allegany County, according to online court records.
He faces additional murder charges and other counts in Howard County. The prosecutor's office is going through the indictment process. The Howard County State's Attorney's Office declined to comment Wednesday because the case is ongoing.
Reynolds was a classmate of Burnham's mother. When Burnham was arrested in West Virginia, he had flagged down a fire department member and said he had killed three people, NBC affiliate WBAL of Baltimore reported, citing state police.
 
 


Don’t think those of us that work in hospitals - or even scarier, those of us working directly with the vaccination efforts - haven’t played out scary scenarios in our heads.

I’m actually shocked there hasn’t been more violence.
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Don’t think those of us that work in hospitals - or even scarier, those of us working directly with the vaccination efforts - haven’t played out scary scenarios in our heads.

I’m actually shocked there hasn’t been more violence.
It so fucked up that the very best of us, those who dedicate their lives to science, educating the youth and public health are targeted with violence by the worst of us. Picketing and harassing educators and health care workers Should have a 5% approval rating amongst wackadoodles. FFS medicine is a calling. You are smart and could have made more money and said fuck it.

So broken.
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27 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

It so fucked up that the very best of us, those who dedicate their lives to science, educating the youth and public health are targeted with violence by the worst of us. Picketing and harassing educators and health care workers Should have a 5% approval rating amongst wackadoodles. FFS medicine is a calling. You are smart and could have made more money and said fuck it.

So broken.

#wackadoodles

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1 hour ago, Woland said:

Local Raytheon employees organizing a protest against mandated vaccines. Why do people who scream the loudest about freedom understand it the least?

You get a good answer to that question, be sure to let the rest of us know.

It's right up there with why women leave half drank cokes all over the place.

 

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Raytheon gets a very large amount of federal $$. It’s been awhile, but nothing really got past the toe in the water stage regarding the potential withholding of federal grant monies to recipients such as institutions, etc that don’t have vaccinated employees? Although, with private entities I  would prefer they make that call on their own. 

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On 9/30/2021 at 9:29 PM, Sawbonz said:

There are several strains of the flu and it mutates fairly frequently. It’s not a matter of your immune system forgetting, it’s being presented new antigens

I'd been taught in a pandemic class that each flu shot had three different strains and CDC or WHO or FDA determined which strains were most likely to pop up in the coming year.  Also was told that those vaccinations protected you for life.   So if you had been vaccinated 8 years, then you had immunity for 24 different strains in you then.  I really have no idea if this is correct.  I'd appreciate some input from those of you more knowledgeable.  

On 10/1/2021 at 9:16 AM, brakeman said:

Can America make to a million deaths? That is about 300,000 less red hat wearing anti-vaxxers.

 

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Barely a month ago, Trump claimed the coronavirus would go away on its own. Then he said it paled in comparison to the 2009 H1N1 flu outbreak, which killed about 12,500 Americans. Now he’s saying that the estimates showing Covid-19 could kill 100,000 Americans — roughly equivalent to two Vietnam Wars or 38 September 11 attacks — actually reflect how effective he’s been.

During a news conference on Sunday, Trump said that a final US coronavirus death toll somewhere in the range of 100,000 to 200,000 people would indicate that his administration has “done a very good job.”

“You’re talking about 2.2 million deaths,” Trump said, referring to an Imperial College study that identified 2.2 million people as the high end of how many Americans could die if no measures were taken to slow the spread of coronavirus. “So if we can hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000, it’s a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000, so we have between 100 [thousand] and 200,000, we altogether have done a very good job.”

On 10/4/2021 at 10:22 AM, DDD Dad said:

Aren't all compounding pharmacies pretty sketchy anyway?

Used to be most all pharmacies compounded.  I know my dad did quite a bit.  It became a lost art.  Funny he could compound but couldn't cook anything but pancakes, bacon and eggs.  

On 10/5/2021 at 12:47 AM, C-Man said:

Jesus, this is just awful. (This is a hard read/watch.)

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/04/us/va-child-death-covid-trnd/index.html

 

I first read about this in an article about how the teacher appointed this child the person responsible for escorting sick children to the school nurse.   Fucking appalling.    It was sad to see that CNN did not include any of that in their report.

https://www.pilotonline.com/news/health/vp-nw-coronavirus-teresa-sperry-suffolk-20211004-75dz3bppmrb7zi467vbjyt7gji-story.html

 

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SUFFOLK — School administrators are investigating whether a teacher had tasked a fifth-grader who died of coronavirus complications last week to walk sick students to the nurse.

Anthonette Ward, a Suffolk Public Schools spokeswoman, said the student’s school has a rule for how to handle children with COVID-19 symptoms, and only adults are supposed to accompany them.

It’s unclear how and where Teresa Sperry was exposed to the virus. The Suffolk school division has been working with the Virginia Department of Health to do contact tracing.

Contact tracers are public health employees who work as disease detectives. Their role is to interview people who have recently tested positive for an illness and determine with whom they’ve recently come in contact. Then, they provide advice to those people on how to avoid spreading the virus to others.

 

As of Monday, only about 31% of confirmed COVID-19 cases have been interviewed over the past week, according to the health department.

The health department contacted the family Wednesday, after Teresa had died, regarding her positive test results.

Teresa, a 10-year-old who attended Hillpoint Elementary School, died last Monday at Children’s Hospital of The King’s Daughters. Her symptoms began with a headache but escalated quickly; five days later, she stopped breathing and couldn’t be revived, her parents Nicole and Jeff Sperry said.

On social media and in news interviews, the Sperrys said their daughter told them the week before she died that a teacher had given her the responsibility of walking students to the nurse.

“That was her classroom job,” her father told The Virginian-Pilot on Wednesday.

Her mother added: “And she said that if the kids were sick and needed to go home, she had to go get their book bag and take it back.”

The school division learned of the parents’ comments last week and is looking into it, Ward said.

“The protocol at Hillpoint Elementary School is for the classroom teacher or any adult to contact the main office with a Code ‘C.’ When this occurs, one of the administrators or school nurse will come to the classroom to pick up the student,” she said in an email. “We are still investigating to ensure that this process was followed with fidelity.”

Both parents said they are vaccinated, though Jeff Sperry has a break-through case of COVID-19 following his daughter’s illness.

Teresa was one of two children the health department reported as having died of COVID-19 last week. The other, under the age of 10, also lived in Eastern Virginia, though officials are not releasing the child’s identity for health privacy reasons.

Thirteen children have died from COVID-19 throughout the state, according to the agency.

The more contagious delta variant drove rapid transmission of the virus in August and September. Children are making up an increasing share of new cases, in part because vaccines are not yet allowed for anyone under age 12. But health authorities have said the Pfizer vaccine will be expanded to ages 5-11 soon.

More children were admitted with COVID-19 in September to CHKD, the only freestanding pediatric hospital in Virginia, than any other month. The staff’s second-highest coronavirus patient volume was in August.

Elisha Sauers, 757-839-4754, elisha.sauers@pilotonline.com

On 10/7/2021 at 10:46 AM, NameAlreadyInUse said:

What am I missing?  Why do Republican megadonors continue to spend money on creating this division?  They have shit tons of money, are they happy to watch the world burn if it means they'll save a dollar on their taxes?  I continue to be shocked how people who have made enough money to be considered a megadonor would have such inability to see the big picture.

Should watch the final season of Goliath.

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Your body would have memory of those 24 strains and could produce new antibodies more quickly should you encounter them again. The antibodies originally created in reaction to the vaccine only lasted 6 months, though, so you’re certainly not immune to them after that time. You’ll simple build response more quickly, likely lessening severeness and duration of illness

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6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't understand how we're not already there. I'm guessing the gov't is propping up the healthcare industry way more than we realize

I'm not sure if health insurers have to file rate changes with the state like P&C insurance companies do. If they do, that could take time -- and this is something that I doubt has been broached since smoking/non-smoking became a thing for life insurance company underwriting.

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5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I'm not sure if health insurers have to file rate changes with the state like P&C insurance companies do. If they do, that could take time -- and this is something that I doubt has been broached since smoking/non-smoking became a thing for life insurance company underwriting.

I was meaning specifically wrt to the pandemic

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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I was meaning specifically wrt to the pandemic

So was I. I'm wondering/thinking that's a move that isn't swiftly implemented for several reasons -- state/national approval, protocol, etc.

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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I was meaning specifically wrt to the pandemic

Shit, we don't even have a national vaccine register. We're relying on fucking index cards that are easily forged and/or barely looked at by concert/athletic venues, restaurants, etc.

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Shit, we don't even have a national vaccine register. We're relying on fucking index cards that are easily forged and/or barely looked at by concert/athletic venues, restaurants, etc.

1) You're one of my favorite posters because you're pretty much always right <3, 2) I also read all your posts in your avatar's voice

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21 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I'm not sure if health insurers have to file rate changes with the state like P&C insurance companies do. If they do, that could take time -- and this is something that I doubt has been broached since smoking/non-smoking became a thing for life insurance company underwriting.

Blood work for larger life policies has been a thing for quite a while now.  This would be less invasive than that.

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Can anyone find a link for me?

An anti-vaxxer I know has asked for proof that rates of transmission for vaccinated people are lower than rates of transmission for UNvaxxed.

The difficult part is that like all the deniers, prob. anything you show them will be seen as nonsense, like they see through your attempted Jedi mind trick.

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@ROFL BOX

You can Google the answer, but showing mounds of research won’t help these idiots. 

Just say “if you dumbfucks would get Vaccinated, there would be no virus to spread”

but again, that won’t work either. Beliefs are tied to who we are, and new information doesn’t change who we are. 

Maybe if someone they cared about died, they MIGHT change. 

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