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Tom Herman Fired as UT Football Coach


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Can't find the post to reply to, but @Bluemoon3287 is right, a relapse for Sarkisian is a risk, period.  Could be stress, could be winning too much (half serious about that).

I would submit, though, that it's not like he's fresh out of rehab or that OCing for Nick Saban is some kind of low-stress environment.

Relapse is an issue until it isn't.  And then it still is.

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3 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Maybe, but I would think Herman’s agent would leak that’s he’s leaving for a different job rather than it being widely reported Herman’s fired. Either way, if it was Sark, I would’ve hoped we’d wait a week so he could come in immediately as Herman is let go but also be coming off a title win. 

there's no way Herman accepts another job until he's fired because he does not want any indication at all he's quitting the job and forfeiting that sweet 15 million in free dollars

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38 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I member OU getting Stoops probably successor. 

If Urban was the only thing that was going to make you turds happy then you were destined to be disappointed in the actual reality of our next hire. 

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1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:

Probably the best available for immediate recruiting of the ACTUALLY AVAILABLE candidates.  At the current hottest cfb program that's the best pipeline to the NFL.  A gamble, but there's logic.

 

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3 minutes ago, Mac8111 said:

So what was the significance of axing Herman today? Why did it have to wait until after the bowl game ?

I think it’s so we don’t look like auburn. CDC had to get an agreement in place before the firing. 

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Happy to see Herman go. He was failing at basic game time decisions and not developing players. Didn't know much about the new guy until I read the first few pages of this thread. I am not against second chances. 'Bama has been dominant for more than a decade so hoping for the best. We got so much talent that some basic competent coaching should at least keep us in top 15. If Sark after dark is out to redeem himself then maybe this turns out to be great. I am just hopeful because of the change.

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29 minutes ago, troph said:

tell me how much better uga is under KS than it was under MR?  not much.  uga was already within striking distance of being in the top 3.  they continue to be second to Florida most years and don't beat Bama and lose to Tom Herman and nearly lose to Cincy.  MR and KS are Mack Brown at best.  We had Urban Meyer's eyes on us and we failed.  A guy known to be drunk at practice as the HC with a barely above 500 record was our choice.  pardon me but I'm no where near the dumbest fucking thing that's been said on this board.

UGA is better.  They have talent to match anybody, including Alabama.  They just can't get over the bama hump.  4 straight NY6 bowls.  4 straight top 10 finishes.  An SEC and 3 division titles in 4 years.   Richt had 3 unranked seasons in his last 6.  Richt had 2 SEC and 5 division titles in 15 years.

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So much fan consternation over Sark.  But before I address that, screw Wanker Bob and every other dipshit outsider who thinks Texas should be satisfied with the current state of the program.  Recruiting is a mess. A&M is surging, OU is kicking our ass, and we don't have time to eff around and hope that Herman can take it to the next level.  Herman might be a good coach, but we don't have the luxury of time to find out. CDC had to make a move.
 
I get the wory over Sark. I have big concerns too.  But I get the decision. Once Meyer said no, every choice had risk. Kelly hasn't proven he can win at the highest level. Campbell is an unknown at the big boy programs. Dabo and Day were unattainable. 
Sark supposedly is incredibly talented. Drinking is what derailed his success. He's worked under Saban and learned how to assemble championship teams. As Burt said earlier in the thread, this is a high risk high reward choice. I'd rather try that than watch Kelly get his ass kicked in the Big 12 championship every year by OU.

More or less where I’m at. I don’t like the hire but Herman was beyond the point of no return. Hoping for the best even if I think that’s less likely than not.
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Don’t know what to think about the Sark hire....

But seriously what does Sarks issue with booze (assuming he’s somehow restrained those demons) have to do with him being the new HC?  I think we’ve all seen a few individuals up close who have turned away from drugs, excessive alcohol use, and other addictions and have done well for themselves and those they influence.

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2 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

How does the Wanker have that much rep?

CR circle jerks?

I found this place for the Trump stuff but I have to admit seeing how much y'all care about this sport only to watch your Jerry Jones level incompetency is thoroughly entertaining for a guy who has no dog in the fight 

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37 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Wrong. His offenses at ISU and UH weren’t all that good and plenty of people pointed that out. 
 

Comparing Herman’s short history to Sark’s laughable. We know way more about Sark as an offensive coach than we did Herman. 

Didn't we average the most points in UT history this year?

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I's somewhat stunned that Herman got fired considering what 2020 has been like. Then again, you cannot allow politics to enter a locker room and maintain support of the entire team. Don't know about Sarkisian.  I hope I'm wrong but this hire has John Mackovic written all over it.

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6 minutes ago, bullet said:

UGA is better.  They have talent to match anybody, including Alabama.  They just can't get over the bama hump.  4 straight NY6 bowls.  4 straight top 10 finishes.  An SEC and 3 division titles in 4 years.   Richt had 3 unranked seasons in his last 6.  Richt had 2 SEC and 5 division titles in 15 years.

UGA has a hard time deciding if they want to be at bowl game or not.  They showed up a little late against Cincy yesterday, but it looked like for three quarters they didn’t want to be there 

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Don’t know what to think about the Sark hire....
But seriously what does Sarks issue with booze (assuming he’s somehow restrained those demons) have to do with him being the new HC?  I think we’ve all seen a few individuals up close who have turned away from drugs, excessive alcohol use, and other addictions and have done well for themselves and those they influence.

1.) We’ve all seen those who haven’t. 2.) Supposedly Herman’s conduct, including his fondness of alcohol, is part of the reason he has a bad relationship with admin/donors. Knowing what kind of stress the Texas job entails on that front as well as the football front, and the financial commitment the school will make, it’s perfectly fair to question whether or not an alcoholic should hold that position.
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