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2 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

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WAIT!

Just to make sure.

This is what you're going with?

I am happy to see some videos to the contrary. Everything I recall when Epstein was brought up he got real cagey real quick. 

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1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

LOLOL9LOLOLOLOLOL¡¡¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT!

Just to make sure.

This is what you're going with?

I can't believe that I'm saying this, but I think I agree with Anastasis. Trump certainly let the dipshits around him run with the Epstein stuff to help his re-election (and general Deep State conspiracy mongering), but I don't ever recall any personal promises from him. It's been evident that he's been hiding something for 6+ years with this stuff and has sidestepped questions about releasing the files accordingly.

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Just now, aggie08 said:

I can't believe that I'm saying this, but I think I agree with Anastasis. Trump certainly let the dipshits around him run with the Epstein stuff to help his re-election (and general Deep State conspiracy mongering), but I don't ever recall any personal promises from him. It's been evident that he's been hiding something for 6+ years with this stuff and has sidestepped questions about releasing the files accordingly.

This is all obvious stuff. Al is just out here wilding. 

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7 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

LOLOL9LOLOLOLOLOL¡¡¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT!

Just to make sure.

This is what you're going with?

The White House invited a bunch of internet people to come over, then gave them a bunch of binders labeled “Epstein Files Tranche 1” and did a news release. 
 

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38 minutes ago, 'stache said:

@TwiceHorn has explained a number of times why this wouldn’t happen, but your “both sides” schtick requires you to believe that the Biden administration was incapable of following prosecutorial ethics and norms. It’s telling that you’re so hung up on accusing the left of “performative bs” and ignoring that, even if that’s the case, it’s in response to years of performative bs from trump and co. saying for years that the list exists and that he would release them and expose a bunch of leftist pedophiles. Again, please answer why they should just let it go and not respond in kind? Performative bs won them control of all three branches of government. Why do you insist that the left should not respond in kind unless your ultimate objective is for them to keep losing elections? All the data shows that the American electorate at large cares only about performative bs.

We have gotten spoiled by all kinds of criminal investigation by-product as a result of Special Counsel, where that tends to be, but isn't always, part of the deal.

If you think back to just about any terminated investigation or acquittal or dismissal, we never got a whole load of evidence to speculate and conspiracy theorize about, except in the case of Special Counsel. It's just not normal.

And, for those bagging on the Dems, you can probably find some of your posts bagging on them for sticking too closely to norms.  Why would you expect them to have broken from norms in this particular instance?

This.  Is.  Norm.  Breaking.

All that said, I'm thrilled that Dems are being political opportunists about it.

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Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Yeah.

Trump breaking a promise would be a game changer.

That's not the point whatsoever. 

I don't see how acknowledging that Trump himself has been, historically, extremely quiet on the Epstein stuff makes the situation any better for him. It just makes him look all the more guilty. Pretty clearly, he allowed the conspiracy to serve his re-election purposes but planned to squash it when necessary and play dumb about what those around him say and do (which he's exceptional at).

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13 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I am happy to see some videos to the contrary. Everything I recall when Epstein was brought up he got real cagey real quick. 

 

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The White House invited a bunch of internet people to come over, then gave them a bunch of binders labeled “Epstein Files Tranche 1” and did a news release. 
 

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“Most transparent admin evar!” LOL. As in, the other admin was not. Keep trying dipshit. 
 

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

That's not the point whatsoever. 

I don't see how acknowledging that Trump himself has been, historically, extremely quiet on the Epstein stuff makes the situation any better for him. It just makes him look all the more guilty. Pretty clearly, he allowed the conspiracy to serve his re-election purposes but planned to squash it when necessary and play dumb about what those around him say and do (which he's exceptional at).

He literally had DC Draino in the West Wing and let Pam Bondi hand out Epstein shit to him there after the election. “He didn’t say it personally” is splitting some extremely fine hairs. 

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10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

but I don't ever recall any personal promises from him

Yeah, that's super weird. Almost as if by design. Like consistently implying the same point over the course of years and yet still being able to technically say-

"I didn't say that"

Weeeeeiiiiiiirrrrrdd how almost mathematically consistent that pattern is. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I am happy to see some videos to the contrary. Everything I recall when Epstein was brought up he got real cagey real quick. 

Trump randomly brought up Epstein/Clinton at CPAC in 2015. Not even sure he was officially running for President yet. 

 

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Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Yeah, that's super weird. Almost as if by design. Like consistently implying the same point over the course of years and yet still being able to technically say-

"I didn't say that"

Weeeeeiiiiiiirrrrrdd how almost mathematically consistent that pattern is. 

 

Yes, exactly. So you agree with me? Trump's usual modus operandi is keeping just enough separation to let others take the fall while keeping himself unscathed. He thought this would be the same as all the others, but it's not going according to plan, and it's been a refreshing change of pace to watch thus far.

What are we arguing exactly?

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4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

“Most transparent admin evar!” LOL. As in, the other admin was not. Keep trying dipshit. 
 

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This stuff is extremely stage managed and this Admin, more than perhaps any other, is EXTREMELY cautious about the use of symbols and signaling around the President. 
 

DOJ and the FBI have press rooms and places for photo-ops.  Nothing is ever done at the White House without the explicit aim to show direct presidential support and direction. 

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He's going to sue The Wall Street Journal NewsCorp/Fox News, and Rupert Murdoch?

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Seems more likely he's trying to get the editor hurt by one of his crazies to send a message.

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15 hours ago, 'stache said:

@TwiceHorn has explained a number of times why this wouldn’t happen, but your “both sides” schtick requires you to believe that the Biden administration was incapable of following prosecutorial ethics and norms. It’s telling that you’re so hung up on accusing the left of “performative bs” and ignoring that, even if that’s the case, it’s in response to years of performative bs from trump and co. saying for years that the list exists and that he would release them and expose a bunch of leftist pedophiles. Again, please answer why they should just let it go and not respond in kind? Performative bs won them control of all three branches of government. Why do you insist that the left should not respond in kind unless your ultimate objective is for them to keep losing elections? All the data shows that the American electorate at large cares only about performative bs.

There are two possibilities:

 

1. The information is so damning for all in involved that no one wants to produce the details of the investigation.

2. The investigation produced nothing outside of the need to jail Epstein and Maxwell ( which is also what Trump is saying once you dig past the hoax nonsense). That outcome is preferable to believing that our elites, power brokers and celebs aren’t debauched assholes sexually abusing minors. 

It is difficult to believe that the DOJ’s investigation has produced nothing of consequence 6 years after Epstein was arrested. You might be able to pull the “its standard procedure to not reveal any information during an investigation” in year one, two or three. 6 years later, 5 and a half years to Trump’s second inauguration, and nothing? Zilch? Nada?

It is no stretch at all to assume the Biden Administration and any department under it was capable of fucking anything up btw.

Yes, I can see “performative BS” has stuck in your craw. So much so that you’re not even trying to deny the Dems are using it. Making no issue of this at all, or even trying to counter it in anyway while the Trump campaign at least loudly hinted about pursuing it, is the Dems failure. Making a stink about it now that it’s politically expedient to stage a vote in Congress that they knew they were going to lose is the definition of performative. Showing any hint of caring about this before the recent vote might have assuaged such accusations, but the Dems gave no fucks about it, and now are trying to hide behind DOJ procedure. How many times has Ro Khana taken to the House floor to push for the release of the Epstein files once the investigation was complete in the last year? Two years? I have a sneaking suspicion the answer is pretty close to zero. As in zero fucks given. 

You can take your “both sides” BS back to your house of worship in the CR. There should be only one side you care about when it comes to child predators. Instead you’re trying scoreboard BS because you don’t actually give a fuck about it other than a way for “Yay team” to advance itself politically. 

 

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The memo made it clear that they will not be releasing any more documents or pursuing cases against Epstein’s friends. It declared that there was no client list, no jailhouse murder, and no international blackmail ring. 

This is all true, but to the QAnon base, it’s akin to the pope tweeting, “We’ve reviewed the files and Jesus didn’t rise from the dead. Thank you for your attention in this matter.” 

 

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22 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

There are two possibilities:

 

1. The information is so damning for all in involved that no one wants to produce the details of the investigation.

2. The investigation produced nothing outside of the need to jail Epstein and Maxwell ( which is also what Trump is saying once you dig past the hoax nonsense). That outcome is preferable to believing that our elites, power brokers and celebs aren’t debauched assholes sexually abusing minors. 

It is difficult to believe that the DOJ’s investigation has produced nothing of consequence 6 years after Epstein was arrested. You might be able to pull the “its standard procedure to not reveal any information during an investigation” in year one, two or three. 6 years later, 5 and a half years to Trump’s second inauguration, and nothing? Zilch? Nada?

It is no stretch at all to assume the Biden Administration and any department under it was capable of fucking anything up btw.

Yes, I can see “performative BS” has stuck in your craw. So much so that you’re not even trying to deny the Dems are using it. Making no issue of this at all, or even trying to counter it in anyway while the Trump campaign at least loudly hinted about pursuing it, is the Dems failure. Making a stink about it now that it’s politically expedient to stage a vote in Congress that they knew they were going to lose is the definition of performative. Showing any hint of caring about this before the recent vote might have assuaged such accusations, but the Dems gave no fucks about it, and now are trying to hide behind DOJ procedure. How many times has Ro Khana taken to the House floor to push for the release of the Epstein files once the investigation was complete in the last year? Two years? I have a sneaking suspicion the answer is pretty close to zero. As in zero fucks given. 

You can take your “both sides” BS back to your house of worship in the CR. There should be only one side you care about when it comes to child predators. Instead you’re trying scoreboard BS because you don’t actually give a fuck about it other than a way for “Yay team” to advance itself politically. 

 

The most likely scenario is that the "file" contains names of people who Epstein associated with and/or who flew with him and/or visited the island, but nothing to establish that they had sex with minors. He liked having rich and powerful friends, it's not like he only associated with pedophiles. So yeah, if there isn't enough evidence to support prosecutions, the result would be that nothing is said about it because the investigation files are generally not public unless they lead to prosecutions. And LOL that any of this is about "child predators." It was always performative to score political points by promising that if you elect him he'd expose a bunch of leftist pedophiles. He's now saying those files never existed and his political enemies created a hoax. It's fucking laughable. I think he should be held to account for that lie and if it leads to insinuations that he's in fact the pedophile, so be it, that's the game he set up. It's again clear that you believe the dems covered up a pedophile ring because that's the narrative you were told to believe. You are the exact type of gullible mark that won them the election. Congratulations.

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20 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

There are two possibilities:

 

1. The information is so damning for all in involved that no one wants to produce the details of the investigation.

2. The investigation produced nothing outside of the need to jail Epstein and Maxwell ( which is also what Trump is saying once you dig past the hoax nonsense). That outcome is preferable to believing that our elites, power brokers and celebs aren’t debauched assholes sexually abusing minors. 

It is difficult to believe that the DOJ’s investigation has produced nothing of consequence 6 years after Epstein was arrested. You might be able to pull the “its standard procedure to not reveal any information during an investigation” in year one, two or three. 6 years later, 5 and a half years to Trump’s second inauguration, and nothing? Zilch? Nada?

It is no stretch at all to assume the Biden Administration and any department under it was capable of fucking anything up btw.

Yes, I can see “performative BS” has stuck in your craw. So much so that you’re not even trying to deny the Dems are using it. Making no issue of this at all, or even trying to counter it in anyway while the Trump campaign at least loudly hinted about pursuing it, is the Dems failure. Making a stink about it now that it’s politically expedient to stage a vote in Congress that they knew they were going to lose is the definition of performative. Showing any hint of caring about this before the recent vote might have assuaged such accusations, but the Dems gave no fucks about it, and now are trying to hide behind DOJ procedure. How many times has Ro Khana taken to the House floor to push for the release of the Epstein files once the investigation was complete in the last year? Two years? I have a sneaking suspicion the answer is pretty close to zero. As in zero fucks given. 

You can take your “both sides” BS back to your house of worship in the CR. There should be only one side you care about when it comes to child predators. Instead you’re trying scoreboard BS because you don’t actually give a fuck about it other than a way for “Yay team” to advance itself politically. 

 

 

For the record, we have a 24-page thread about shaming pedophiles, yet I don't recall you ever posting in that one. Hell, this thread is 3 years old, and your first post here wasn't until Sunday. So, based on your lack of posting history about the topic, it seems that you didn't start giving a shit until very recently, for whatever reason.

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