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2 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

He’s 37 and the last of Mack Browns recruits.  Dudes gonna have a pension

 

2 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

We’re gonna set some records.  We had a kid drafted last year who wasn’t  eligible to vote, and we’re gonna have one this year who’s eligible for Medicare.

Jesus fucking Christ on a pogo stick. I thought y'all were kidding.

 

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Was hoping J'Mond Tapp could have been someone to emerge as a pass rusher, and I know it's early, but I don't think I've seen his name mentioned yet.
Sark mentioned his name in one of his recent interviews, but he was trying to name all edge rushers so fwiw.
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14 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Interesting OL discussion here(timestamped)

 

 

Bobby thinks Campbell wins the RG job and Hutson is backup center/RG.....Thinks Conner starts off at LG but Neto overtakes him, Believes Hutson is being groomed to be center next year

If we play Majors at C, we’ll be a bad run blocking line again

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$$ ESPN https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/38115407/connelly-college-football-ifs-list-contenders-georgia-alabama-ohio-state-michigan-lsu

This is my annual "Ifs List" piece -- an attempt to see how many "ifs" it takes me to turn a team into a genuine national title contender. The favorites don't require many; a few others might have more than you think.

Texas Longhorns (+2,000)

If ... Quinn Ewers (or some other Texas QB) shows up on key plays. On first downs, Quinn Ewers ranked 19th in raw QBR in 2022. On third downs: 104th. In first quarters, Ewers ranked 46th. In fourth quarters: 97th.

Ewers had promising moments, but he was dreadful on the most important downs and in the most important quarter. You could say the same thing about the Horns. They outscored opponents by 179 points in the first three quarters, got outscored by 12 in the fourth quarter and overtime and went 2-5 in one-score finishes. They dominated at times and aced the predictive ratings -- seventh in both FPI and SP+ -- but still went just 8-5.

Was this a sample-size oddity? Can Ewers come through in key moments before he loses his job to either blue-chip freshman Arch Manning or spring star Maalik Murphy?

If ... Sark does, too. While close-game records are typically unsustainable and can oscillate constantly, it does bear mentioning that Steve Sarkisian has lost 11 of his last 15 one-score games as a head coach. This goes higher up than Ewers on the org chart.

If ... young running backs aren't a hindrance. Ewers' veteran receiving corps should be stellar, but the Horns will lack both Bijan Robinson and Roschon Johnson at running back. Can some combination of sophomores Jonathon Brooks and Jaydon Blue and blue-chip freshman Cedric Baxter Jr. provide a sufficient security blanket?

If ... opponents move backward more. Texas leaped from 86th to 22nd in defensive SP+ last season, driven by excellent run pursuit and big-play prevention. But the Horns still ran into trouble on third and fourth downs because, while they were preventing efficiency, they weren't pushing opponents backward: They ranked 106th in sack rate and 102nd in stuff rate. Forcing second-and-8 is good; forcing second-and-12 is better.

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20 minutes ago, Sal said:

If we play Majors at C, we’ll be a bad run blocking line again

https://247sports.com/article/texas-football-2023-center-jake-majors-scouting-report--213404765/#:~:text=Texas center Jake Majors has quietly put together,nationally as a unit%2C but as a team.

Brockermeyer seems to be a fan. Rimington watch list. Seems to have added 8 to 10 pounds. If we can put better than way below average guards next to him, unlike last year, he might surprise.

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1 hour ago, pacman said:

https://247sports.com/article/texas-football-2023-center-jake-majors-scouting-report--213404765/#:~:text=Texas center Jake Majors has quietly put together,nationally as a unit%2C but as a team.

Brockermeyer seems to be a fan. Rimington watch list. Seems to have added 8 to 10 pounds. If we can put better than way below average guards next to him, unlike last year, he might surprise.

Fuck the Brocks.

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Anwar comment from Fall Camp practice on Friday night:

--- Texas running back Jonathon Brooks did not participate in practice due to an undisclosed illness. Longhorn officials did not provide any further information.

--- Keilan Robinson was the No.1 running back on Friday, followed Jaydon Blue, and CJ Baxter.

 

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5 hours ago, pacman said:

https://247sports.com/article/texas-football-2023-center-jake-majors-scouting-report--213404765/#:~:text=Texas center Jake Majors has quietly put together,nationally as a unit%2C but as a team.

Brockermeyer seems to be a fan. Rimington watch list. Seems to have added 8 to 10 pounds. If we can put better than way below average guards next to him, unlike last year, he might surprise.

Just about every player is on a watch list

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15 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

So, not coachable?

I’m certainly not an expert, but you start to have those concerns when the guy is in his second season and hasn’t shown improvement. Could be that he has a longer learning curve and it will click eventually, but he looked spastic. Just flailing around, getting pushed and pulled wherever the tackle wanted him to go. 
 

Either way, I doubt he’ll be seriously contributing this season. 

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4 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Anwar comment from Fall Camp practice on Friday night:

--- Texas running back Jonathon Brooks did not participate in practice due to an undisclosed illness. Longhorn officials did not provide any further information.

--- Keilan Robinson was the No.1 running back on Friday, followed Jaydon Blue, and CJ Baxter.

 

Stop trying to make Keilan a thing Sark. He’s a gadget play/jet sweep/special teams guy, not a lead back. Alamo Bowl proved that. 

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31 minutes ago, Fud said:

If our guards suck again, we’ll be a bad run blocking line again 

Majors is the weak link.  Rewatching the Iowa State game on LHN right now.  He gets driven into the backfield on every short yardage running play.   The same will happen again any team with a good DT and a DC who isn't an idiot 

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Stop trying to make Keilan a thing Sark. He’s a gadget play/jet sweep/special teams guy, not a lead back. Alamo Bowl proved that. 

This cracks me up. Your top two dudes sit. Your 3rd guy is less than 100%. The bowl game didn’t mean much in the bigger picture. Whoever else you have has not played in games.

Now it’s an early season practice. The top dog is out. It’s a practice.

Here’s a shocker. Even if Keilan is 3rd team, he’s likely getting meaningful snaps with the first unit. He’s earned them in productive moments, gadget plays or not, but Sark giving him an additional nod is ok too. And those gadget plays will be more productive if Keilan can diversify the plays he can run. So practice those. With the guys that’ll be on the field with him.

Now, if he gets the majority of carries and averages 2.5 per carry in the season, we got a problem. Who gives a damn who technically starts the games. We need each guy put in places and situations to produce. No need to worry about who runs out first.
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35 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Majors is the weak link.  Rewatching the Iowa State game on LHN right now.  He gets driven into the backfield on every short yardage running play.   The same will happen again any team with a good DT and a DC who isn't an idiot 

The guards were significant worse than Majors last year

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20 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

No, he wasn't. I'm not going to sit here and argue he's an All Big 12 caliber center or anything but he was the midpoint on the line last year. Hutson in particular was abysmal for most of the season, and Conner wasn't much better and isn't as good in pass pro as Majors. Campbell flashed but often looked lost (contrast to Hutson, who had less of an assignment issue and more of a physical readiness issue). My hope is that's cleaned up and Campbell earns a starting spot to add some juice to interior run blocking.

Majors was always going to be a multi-year S&C project when projecting him to center, and you can live with that if you've got competent guard play and the rest of his game is solid (it largely is). If he ends up being the weak point of the OL this year, it will be a better unit because that means there's been tangible improvement at both guard spots.

Burton said he thinks Campbell will beat out Hudson to start the season and Neto beats out Conner as the season goes on. 

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9 hours ago, pacman said:

$$ ESPN https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/38115407/connelly-college-football-ifs-list-contenders-georgia-alabama-ohio-state-michigan-lsu

This is my annual "Ifs List" piece -- an attempt to see how many "ifs" it takes me to turn a team into a genuine national title contender. The favorites don't require many; a few others might have more than you think.

Texas Longhorns (+2,000)

If ... Quinn Ewers (or some other Texas QB) shows up on key plays. On first downs, Quinn Ewers ranked 19th in raw QBR in 2022. On third downs: 104th. In first quarters, Ewers ranked 46th. In fourth quarters: 97th.

Ewers had promising moments, but he was dreadful on the most important downs and in the most important quarter. You could say the same thing about the Horns. They outscored opponents by 179 points in the first three quarters, got outscored by 12 in the fourth quarter and overtime and went 2-5 in one-score finishes. They dominated at times and aced the predictive ratings -- seventh in both FPI and SP+ -- but still went just 8-5.

Was this a sample-size oddity? Can Ewers come through in key moments before he loses his job to either blue-chip freshman Arch Manning or spring star Maalik Murphy?

If ... Sark does, too. While close-game records are typically unsustainable and can oscillate constantly, it does bear mentioning that Steve Sarkisian has lost 11 of his last 15 one-score games as a head coach. This goes higher up than Ewers on the org chart.

If ... young running backs aren't a hindrance. Ewers' veteran receiving corps should be stellar, but the Horns will lack both Bijan Robinson and Roschon Johnson at running back. Can some combination of sophomores Jonathon Brooks and Jaydon Blue and blue-chip freshman Cedric Baxter Jr. provide a sufficient security blanket?

If ... opponents move backward more. Texas leaped from 86th to 22nd in defensive SP+ last season, driven by excellent run pursuit and big-play prevention. But the Horns still ran into trouble on third and fourth downs because, while they were preventing efficiency, they weren't pushing opponents backward: They ranked 106th in sack rate and 102nd in stuff rate. Forcing second-and-8 is good; forcing second-and-12 is better.

Good workaround if you want to read the full article:

Add "archive.ph/" before the url.   

It'll read:  archive.ph/https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/38115407/connelly-college-football-ifs-list-contenders-georgia-alabama-ohio-state-michigan-lsu

Follow resulting instructions. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

It’s amazing how many people fail to understand that both Guards were worse than Majors last year, and they somehow think that replacing him with one of those guards, thereby weakening two positions, is the answer to fixing our OL. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Replacing a 27 game starter at center whose biggest strength is pass protection in a season in which we are about to throw the ball all over the field sounds really stupid, especially when the options to replace him performed worse than he did a year ago.

His biggest strength is pulling and second level blocking, imo 

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Replacing a 27 game starter at center whose biggest strength is pass protection in a season in which we are about to throw the ball all over the field sounds really stupid, especially when the options to replace him performed worse than he did a year ago.

This. And it’ll be great having an experienced, reliable C in a hostile environment like Tuscaloosa…
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39 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

Bobby talking about the interior OL at the timestamped video above.

 

Sounds like neither Gerry or Bobby think Conner/Hutson will hold off DJ Campbell or Neto.

I seem to recall that several Surlies played OL high school, and @BurtMacklin  seems quite knowledgeable about trench warfare.  Hutson and Conner appear to me to be excellent depth pieces.

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