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Well written speech from Biden in Oval Office. Reframed as each side has different visions for America. Resolve our differences with the ballot box not with bullets. Reframed as he has a different vision for American than the other side. No longer saying existential crisis or Trump great threat, just that the other side has an agenda and vision that will impact America for years to come. It’s the importance of democracy in his vision not any longer that Trump is the threat to it. Just that Trump has a different vision, well written. 

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16 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I'm sure we'll learn more in the next few weeks, but my guess is that he didn't particularly care about the politics and was more in it for fame like a lot of these lunatics.

Yeah. Classmates are saying the kid was relentlessly bullied. Doesn't appear to have any solid life prospects. Makes more sense that he wanted to go down in a mass shooting event than it does that he was radicalized against the party he registered for so much that he decided to kill their candidate ahead of the first election he was even old enough to vote in. 

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43 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Just to make sure I'm summarizing things correctly over the past couple of weeks: nothing Biden can do can hurt his chances, and nothing that happens to Trump can help his chances. Got it.

I actually think this is by and large true.  The outcome will be determined by the Democratic GOTV operation, driven by Project 2025 and womens rights, and how effective it is in the swing states.

I don't think anything either Biden or Trump do, besides dying, is material to the outcome of the election.

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15 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

They may have stayed home. 

The apathetic probable Biden voter has absolutely nothing to motivate them at this point.

The apathetic Trump voter just a major shot in the arm.

I acknowledge that we all know shit about fuck, but this can't all be just one big nothing.

Maybe.  There are apathetic republicans, but Trump made them apathetic. What is an apathetic Trump voter?

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1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Maybe.  There are apathetic republicans, but Trump made them apathetic. What is an apathetic Trump voter?

Apparently an armed officer of the law withdrawing down a ladder in coach shorts. 

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17 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Just a nutjob looking to be famous in death, not a political

This kid wasn’t a nutjob… he knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it.  I think it’s flippant to refer to him a just another crazy.  Something was wrong with him for sure, but insanity wasn’t it. The Trump movement is defined by its cruelty and intolerance. Something like this happening is not surprising given the environment this kid was probably immersed in over the past several years. It’s a sick world and that doesn’t excuse this guys bad behavior but he wasn’t crazy. JMO

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I know many of you are surrounded by Republican family members and friends, but I’ve been surprised by how many in my circle I’ve communicated with in the last day have said to me something to the effect “we were only inches from Haley or DeSantis”.

These people have no personal affection for Trump.  But my circle is more the rich, low taxes type than MAGA.

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I know many of you are surrounded by Republican family members and friends, but I’ve been surprised by how many in my circle I’ve communicated with in the last day have said to me something to the effect “we were only inches from Haley or DeSantis”.
These people have no personal affection for Trump.  But my circle is more the rich, low taxes type than MAGA.

They’re lying. They love him. They’re embarrassed that they love him, but they love him.
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I don't know how I hadn't heard this before, but I just learned that WI is an open carry state.  They won't be able to bring their guns into the RNC venue in Milwaukee, but they'll be all around it.

That's gonna be one seriously dangerous atmosphere for a few nights.

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9 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I don't know how I hadn't heard this before, but I just learned that WI is an open carry state.  They won't be able to bring their guns into the RNC venue in Milwaukee, but they'll be all around it.

That's gonna be one seriously dangerous atmosphere for a few nights.

I don't think it will be any more dangerous than any high school in America during the school day.

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16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The Democrats!

Yep, that’s par for the course. Doomerism at its finest 

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I’m not sure, barring Trump coming out with some sort of Kum-ba-ya Reaganesque “we all need to come together to save America and I’m the first to moderate ” moment, this changed things all that much, other than making him look much more physically robust than Biden. 
 

What reliable likely voters  are most likely to change their vote based on Saturday: older white men who consider themselves Reagan Republicans who are likely to rally back to the GOP flag. The question is whether they stay there when the crazy starts to creep back in. 
 

By Wednesday we are going to be shoulder deep in GQP conspiracy and angry talk. Maybe, Trump’s folks will tone the convention down, but what in recent memory has shown any indication they ever take their foot off the gas?  
 

Maybe the entire country will Rally to Trump like Johnson in 64, but that seems….unlikely given how deep our political divisions are.

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6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I’m not sure, barring Trump coming out with some sort of Kum-ba-ya Reaganesque “we all need to come together to save America and I’m the first to moderate ” moment, this changed things all that much, other than making him look much more physically robust than Biden. 
 

What reliable likely voters  are most likely to change their vote based on Saturday: older white men who consider themselves Reagan Republicans who are likely to rally back to the GOP flag. The question is whether they stay there when the crazy starts to creep back in. 
 

By Wednesday we are going to be shoulder deep in GQP conspiracy and angry talk. Maybe, Trump’s folks will tone the convention down, but what in recent memory has shown any indication they ever take their foot off the gas?  
 

Maybe the entire country will Rally to Trump like Johnson in 64, but that seems….unlikely given how deep our political divisions are.

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I knew the Democratic Party was weak but holy shit this is like political malfeasance on so many levels.  Who is running Joe Biden’s campaign? Is it Dick Morris or some other washed up out of touch boomer?  Kitchen table issues and healthcare aren’t even in the conversation and the only articulated agenda Biden has for a second term is somehow doing all the shit he failed to even fight for in his first term.  People are not buying what he’s selling.  Divine intervention is pretty much our only hope and that’s the saddest part because the other side is a bunch of unpopular weirdos with horrible ideas no one likes.  

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They should all be forced to read Caro's biography of LBJ.

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

Do you think Biden would have survived that SS tackle or are you chortling at how feeble he is?

Of course he would have. He's in better shape than Donald Trump. 

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1 hour ago, t_eight said:

The future is weirder than you can possibly imagine.

I don't know, man. I pretty much oscillate between this site and Pornhub as my only two routine visits.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

They should all be forced to read Caro's biography of LBJ.

Of course he would have. He's in better shape than Donald Trump. 

Sure, buddy. Also, Robert Caro spends an awful lot of time hating on a man who did this:

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

Yes. And Dallek. 

I certainly didn't get the impression that Caro was hating on LBJ's genius as a politician. In fact, I thought it was quite the opposite.

I will agree, however, that Caro is much more critical in his assessment of LBJ the man.

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6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I certainly didn't get the impression that Caro was hating on LBJ's genius as a politician. In fact, I thought it was quite the opposite.

I will agree, however, that Caro is much more critical in his assessment of LBJ the man.

You’ll get no defense out of me of LBJ as a human being in daily life.

 

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30 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They should all be forced to read Caro's biography of LBJ.

Of course he would have. He's in better shape than Donald Trump. 

Good chance he would have broken a hip

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2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

And if you're someone who wasn't going to vote because you have zero faith in Biden but Trump and the right is just too radical? Now, "the left" is just as bad, just as violent, if not more so. The both sides heroes are going to milk the shit out of this.

How does a probably apolitical assassination attempt by an ill young man, who is a registered Republican, make the left violent and radical, or make Trump more tolerable to vote for?

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

How does a probably apolitical assassination attempt by an ill young man, who is a registered Republican, make the left violent and radical, or make Trump more tolerable to vote for?

People are dumb and lack critical thinking skills.

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

How does a probably apolitical assassination attempt by an ill young man, who is a registered Republican, make the left violent and radical, or make Trump more tolerable to vote for?

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Which means half of them are smarter. 

But you have to go quite a ways along the bell to get to “smart”

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44 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They should all be forced to read Caro's biography of LBJ.

Of course he would have. He's in better shape than Donald Trump. 

Are you serious?

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On 7/13/2024 at 9:09 PM, Frank Drebin said:

This forum is mostly populated and dominated by sick and disgusting people.  

Then why do you never come to the meetings?

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I was trying to find information on Ewers apparently being MAGA and came across this:

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/sauce-gardner-epic-photo-donald-trump-shooting/636087

I think so many of these people coming out are cool tweeting this stuff out but registering to vote and finding out where to go on a Tuesday afternoon instead of staying at home to play video games and browse 4chan?  Don't see it.

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29 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I was trying to find information on Ewers apparently being MAGA and came across this:

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/sauce-gardner-epic-photo-donald-trump-shooting/636087

I think so many of these people coming out are cool tweeting this stuff out but registering to vote and finding out where to go on a Tuesday afternoon instead of staying at home to play video games and browse 4chan?  Don't see it.

My favorite are the people who post excuses like "i don't like politics" or  "don't judge me just cause of my politics when their political position is that they don't like black people"

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8 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Anyone who tries to assasinate a President or commit public gun violence is crazy. Your justifications are nonsense. 

You’re an idiot.  Perfectly sane people commit violence all the time.  Being crazy and being evil are two completely different things.  



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