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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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7 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I want to believe.

How are they getting it so wrong, though? Like, how exactly are their methods failing?

Easy. None of these polls are true random samples of the population because, among other reasons, low response rates. They have to correct this issue by trying to mold the model to match what they expect the actual voting population to look like. If those assumptions are wrong, then their conclusions are wrong. And given that their assumptions are largely wild ass guesses, their conclusions are often wrong. 

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2 minutes ago, TexPx said:


That does it! I will not be voting for Biden!

Lame duck Biden should do a heel tour of all the red states starting in a few weeks.  Call people garbage and idiots, shit on their teams, the whole nine yards.  

Just now, BamaATL said:

Lame duck Biden should do a heel tour of all the red states starting in a few weeks.  Call people garbage and idiots, shit on their teams, the whole nine yards.  

He should actually just literally shit on @Stros121

8 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I want to believe.

How are they getting it so wrong, though? Like, how exactly are their methods failing?

Modern poll response is tilted towards the loudest and most fanatic voters. Who else is likely to waste time responding to a poll?  Response rates are terrible as @quigley has discussed; polls are basically calling 25-50 people on average until someone finally decides to respond to a political poll.  In 2016 #ImWithHer or whatever was a loud movement and there weren't as many fervent MAGAts as there are now. 

In 2024 Trumpers have more loud and obnoxious supporters and the people who are tired of all the shit will break for Harris.

That's one theory anyway. 

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump wants to default in the us debt

Well, he has plenty of experience in that arena, I guess ...

It's a matter of when, not if, Texas will flip.

25 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

Yeah, but did he call you the "enemy from within"?  A "very bad person"?  A "very sick person"?  A "radical lunatic"?   

I always check three times.
I vote, go over it again.
The I review my choices on the review screen.
Then I print and go over it again.
Mostly to see if I committed any user errors. Wouldn't want to try to vote for Al Gore and accidentally vote for Pat Buchanan or anything.


31 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

Gosh, I'm just SHOCKED that Wesley Hunt posted a misleading and shortened clip! 

 

Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

@Stros121 is a whiny bitch, just like his Orange God, Trump. 

 

Typical bully/coward trait; they can dish it out but can't take anything thrown back.  Weak and pathetic. 

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

Typical bully/coward trait; they can dish it out but can't take anything thrown back.  Weak and pathetic. 

Their tears...

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I had an acquaintance mention that he was for Trump because Trump will blow up the federal govt and then it can be built back.

The Pod Save America guys talked themselves out of recommending Kamala appear on Rogan* and responding to this kind belief is a good example of how they are wrong.  
 

*they said it was because Rogan will start bringing up bullshit “data” in support of anti-vax and she would get bogged down in it.  I haven’t heard them be so protective of her previously-I think you gotta let her cook.  
 

In regards to the “you’ve got to destroy it to save it” rhetoric, I think that should be such a layup I’m just shocked she’s not frothing at the opportunity.  That said, it speaks to the failure of the party (this isn’t on her) to better articulate a counter to “Make America Great Again” as a vision of what it DOES need to look like. 

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I still think it is funny that that MAGA crowd, which largely hail from Staten Island, laughed about a joke about an island of garbage in the ocean...considering Staten Island was home to the largest landfill in the world (Google Fresh Kills). Fucking idiots.

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

This thread moves with breathtaking speed. There’s no way to keep up. 

Using terms like Fascism and Fascist is a waste of breath. Trump voters are too dumb to know what that means. They have no idea what you are referencing. 

Weird worked great.  I wish the campaign had kept with it.

13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Modern poll response is tilted towards the loudest and most fanatic voters. Who else is likely to waste time responding to a poll?  Response rates are terrible as @quigley has discussed; polls are basically calling 25-50 people on average until someone finally decides to respond to a political poll.  In 2016 #ImWithHer or whatever was a loud movement and there weren't as many fervent MAGAts as there are now. 

In 2024 Trumpers have more loud and obnoxious supporters and the people who are tired of all the shit will break for Harris.

That's one theory anyway. 

Some of these polls have trouble getting enough people to respond to even be valid.  They need roughly 800-1000 people and it's a struggle.

Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I still think it is funny that that MAGA crowd, which largely hail from Staten Island, laughed about a joke about an island of garbage in the ocean...considering Staten Island was home to the largest landfill in the world (Google Fresh Kills). Fucking idiots.

Fits in perfectly with the "every accusation is a confession" phenomenon that is central to maga. 

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37 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

Fuck your feelings 

42 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

All the pearl clutching is really getting tiresome. Especially as, in fact, at this point we kind of want the Republicans to not turn down the rhetoric. We want them to let their freak flag fly.

Anyway Joe shouldn't say mean things about the voters. I think he was talking about the supporters making the comments. But, you know, whatever gets you excited. Biden probably helped your team out there a bit.

DNC state run media. LOL.

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40 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

Hey, Wesley.....

Go fuck yourself you fucking cunt.

16 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

He should actually just literally shit on @Stros121

Well I do that every day after I have a couple of cups of coffee. 

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Some of these polls have trouble getting enough people to respond to even be valid.  They need roughly 800-1000 people and it's a struggle.

If anyone is serious about polling in the future, the way it's heading, they are going to have to vett and pay pollees.  That is really the only way I can see you getting real representative polling.  It seems any asshole can just make a poll up these days and someone will point to it, no matter the bonafides, no one seems to be in a hurry to adopt that sort of model.  

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

One is.

Damn. My condolences on having to pay a little bit on taxes on that one at some point.

8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Gosh, I'm just SHOCKED that Wesley Hunt posted a misleading and shortened clip! 

 

The shortened clip is just fine

31 minutes ago, miguelito said:

It feels like this:

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7 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

In my lifetime would be nice, motherfuckers.

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Get back in the basement Joe. Lol. 

43 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

I hate to agree with this person, but this was a own goal by Biden. Distracts from Harris and distracts from Trump lighting himself on fire.

15 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Gosh, I'm just SHOCKED that Wesley Hunt posted a misleading and shortened clip! 

 

Yeah. He was clearly only talking about the dude making the comments. He says "his supporter's demonization of Latinos is unconscionable" as in this one supporters demonization. That doesn't track that he is saying that every single supporter of Trump demonized Latinos. You have to really be a dishonest fuck to interpret it that way.

Ah well. Welcome to the internet.

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44 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

 

And he's wrong how?

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

 I’m looking at you @Zonahorn

Fake news, Kamala Harris will win the state

1 minute ago, quigley said:

I hate to agree with this person, but this was a own goal by Biden. Distracts from Harris and distracts from Trump lighting himself on fire.

Yeah, really overshadows the entire Republican leadership calling people trash.  

Just now, BamaATL said:

Yeah, really overshadows the entire Republican leadership calling people trash.  

I hate it too, and I see how superficial it is, but it allow Fox and WaPo and CNN to both-sides the situation.

Wait, was this supposedly barely in control of his facilities Joe Biden or body double Joe Biden? I'll calibrate my outrage accordingly.

Well the good news is they think his mind is gone, so they can’t hold him accountable for his words. 

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5 minutes ago, quigley said:

I hate to agree with this person, but this was a own goal by Biden. Distracts from Harris and distracts from Trump lighting himself on fire.

 

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Just now, quigley said:

I hate it too, and I see how superficial it is, but it allow Fox and WaPo and CNN to both-sides the situation.

No one gives a shit what Biden says or does anymore.  Shouldn't be that way, he is the President for the next 3 months no matter, but absolutely no one cares.   He literally doesn't move the meter one bit.  

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Trump calls some people by funny names, but NEVER denigrates all people in a state or in the USA. 

Hillary can call half the country deplorable, Biden can call them garbage and the news can call them Nazi's. How is that even right or bringing the country together?

 

From a Facebook post. "Funny names" JFC 

9 minutes ago, SaucyJack said:

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I wonder if these two dickheads survived Covid…

7 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

And he's wrong how?

He is wrong. Biden was not calling every single supporter of Trump garbage. He was using a possessive s to discuss his demonization of Latinos. People are ignoring that and considering it a plural.

 

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