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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Well they're gonna try to argue that Harris isn't eligible. It would be funny to watch them make that argument, pre-convention, and then replace Trump post-convention.

"No no that's totally cool though, because reasons."

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16 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

You must have been a special kind of high. Congrats!

 

dude maybe there's something wrong with me but that's just how I think spaces sound on twitter. The audio processing is just different it's why musks voice sounds strange too.

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

dude maybe there's something wrong with me but that's just how I think spaces sound on twitter. The audio processing is just different it's why musks voice sounds strange too.

there was a separate audio from someone in the room with trump and he sounded like that. so it wasn't xitter spaces.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

dude maybe there's something wrong with me but that's just how I think spaces sound on twitter. The audio processing is just different it's why musks voice sounds strange too.

It definitely has an effect, I noticed the pitch of his voice was higher. I don't know if that goes for the lisp too though.  And even if that is the explanation, the fact remains that he sounded different from what we are accustomed too.  But here's video of him in the room.  Judge for yourself.  

I hear "tho many millions of people"

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there's something not clicking in my brain. I just don't hear a difference from his normal talking, maybe he's always had a lisp to me? anyway done with my derail it's me it's not you.

Posted
16 minutes ago, The Dog said:

My conspiracy theory is that they are riding Trump's pull with MAGA to get the win then they'll use the 25th amendment to replace him with Vance after the inauguration. 

Then Vance can implement Project 2025.

I don't think this will work.  Vance will probably play along, but his cabinet will be filled with Trump yes men who won't invoke it.

If by some chance they do, Trump will refuse and return to office for 4 days.  The cabinet can invoke it again and the House and Senate will need to vote 2/3rd's each to permanently remove him.  While not impossible, I don't see that as particularly possible.  There will be enough Trumpists in the House that even with full Democratic support (unknown) it will fail.  The Senate, maybe, but they'd need both.

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26 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I know that Vance isn't a great replacement, but just from a procedural standpoint, can the GOP remove Trump from the ticket after he's been nominated?

IE if he is deemed to have severe cognitive decline since the convention?

Not asking if it would, or should happen, just trying to understand if it's even possible.

I'm pretty confident that Trump could voluntarily step down if he wanted to. But I don't think there is a way for the party to make him do that at this point.

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1 minute ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I don't think this will work.  Vance will probably play along, but his cabinet will be filled with Trump yes men who won't invoke it.

If by some chance they do, Trump will refuse and return to office for 4 days.  The cabinet can invoke it again and the House and Senate will need to vote 2/3rd's each to permanently remove him.  While not impossible, I don't see that as particularly possible.  There will be enough Trumpists in the House that even with full Democratic support (unknown) it will fail.  The Senate, maybe, but they'd need both.


Trump yes men see Trump as a means to an end. They're not wedded to him personally. If they see Vance as a much younger, more focused, more energetic way to get what they want. they'll dump Trump in a heartbeat.

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Just now, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


Trump yes men see Trump as a means to an end. They're not wedded to him personally. If they see Vance as a much younger, more focused, more energetic way to get what they want. they'll dump Trump in a heartbeat.

Yeah, but Trump voters see him as Dear Leader. If the party removes him, they will lose the only people still voting for them.

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2 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I don't think this will work.  Vance will probably play along, but his cabinet will be filled with Trump yes men who won't invoke it.

If by some chance they do, Trump will refuse and return to office for 4 days.  The cabinet can invoke it again and the House and Senate will need to vote 2/3rd's each to permanently remove him.  While not impossible, I don't see that as particularly possible.  There will be enough Trumpists in the House that even with full Democratic support (unknown) it will fail.  The Senate, maybe, but they'd need both.

He's not picking his cabinet - Theil and Musk will. They already forced him to pick Vance via Eric and Junior. 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Tuco said:

It's mainly a question of getting on the ballot in 50+ different voting authorities.  

They can completely ignore dozens of States. There's no point in trying to change the ballot in California, for example.

But I agree it isn't happening. 

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13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

They can completely ignore dozens of States. There's no point in trying to change the ballot in California, for example.

But I agree it isn't happening. 

Ohio is one of them with a tight schedule.  Here is an old article talking about doing a roll-call vote ahead of the convention to avoid any issue with getting on the ballot in Ohio.  They needed to get it in by Aug 7 to avoid having to force it in the courts.  Fun fact: Walz headed up the convention rules committee which pushed up the roll call vote.  

Edit: I assume the GOP has already sent out the ballot information to Ohio and other states.  Changing it now would be much more difficult.  

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17 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


Trump yes men see Trump as a means to an end. They're not wedded to him personally. If they see Vance as a much younger, more focused, more energetic way to get what they want. they'll dump Trump in a heartbeat.

This would require significant, if not total, Democratic cooperation for removal.  They cannot do it alone.  And if I'm a Democratic rep or Senator, there's a pretty good case to be made to leave Trump in office as opposed to elevating Vance.  Two absolutely horrid choices, but one would result in a spectacular GQP civil war, the other a focused, systemic dismantling of American democracy.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

53-47 in Texas per ActiVote poll

It’s a weird looking poll. I’m more curious about the YouGov one that’s coming this week 

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52 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I know that Vance isn't a great replacement, but just from a procedural standpoint, can the GOP remove Trump from the ticket after he's been nominated?

IE if he is deemed to have severe cognitive decline since the convention?

Not asking if it would, or should happen, just trying to understand if it's even possible.

Trump would burn everything to the ground if they replace him.

Now, if they do a deal where he is the candidate and wins, then steps aside to let JD take the presidency with the promise of a full presidential pardon, maybe, just maybe he'd walk away at that point. Oh wait, no he wouldn't. He renege on the deal. (And the pardon doesn't get him off in Georgia or perhaps Arizona if he winds up in that mess.)

 

30 minutes ago, immamac said:

there's something not clicking in my brain. I just don't hear a difference from his normal talking, maybe he's always had a lisp to me? anyway done with my derail it's me it's not you.

Yeah, the clip above doesn't sound that weird. There's a weird lispy thing at the very beginning but he hits his hard "S" just like he always does on the back end. I am a fan, however, of Denture Don and would like to see that catch on.

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There's a transcript so you don't have to listen. Many, many baffling, wtf moments. https://singjupost.com/full-transcript-elon-musk-interviews-donald-trump/?singlepage=1

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You know, Russia defeated Germany with us and they defeated Napoleon.

 

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"And by the way, you think Biden could do this interview? Do you think that Kamala could do this interview? They would take a pass. No, they could not. They don’t need Elon. They don’t need Elon screaming out questions."

 

and Elmo

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Posted
 

WTF does that mean? Drop all charges against the felon, just to do him a nice favor?

The asks that they put on democrats while doing whatever the fuck they want never ceases to amaze me.
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/breathtaking-hypocrisy-nbc-news-reports-on-trump-campaign-asking-media-not-to-publish-hacked-material/

NBC News justice and intelligence correspondent Ken Dilanian:

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But now the Trump campaign is urging news organizations not to use any documents stolen by a foreign government in what some see as breathtaking hypocrisy. And so far, you know, news organizations do not appear to have published any internal Trump documents. But nothing is stopping the hackers from posting them on the web somewhere, which will create a real dilemma for the media if the documents are newsworthy. I mean, nobody wants to help a foreign government influence the election, but if secret documents are leaked onto the internet, lots of people are going to see them regardless of what the media does on them.

 

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Posted
Just now, Red Five said:


WTF does that mean? Drop all charges against the felon, just to do him a nice favor?

The asks that they put on democrats while doing whatever the fuck they want never ceases to amaze me.

Yes. It's our fault for not letting Donald Trump get away with all of his crimes (just most of them), thus forcing him to run for President to escape consequences. 

It makes perfect sense after you hit yourself over the head with a hammer.

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3 minutes ago, Red Five said:


WTF does that mean? Drop all charges against the felon, just to do him a nice favor?

The asks that they put on democrats while doing whatever the fuck they want never ceases to amaze me.

It means he already in the early stages of dementia and as long as he thinks he's president, he'll just pretend.

They did the same thing with his father who had, wait for it, dementia.

Posted
1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

I know that Vance isn't a great replacement, but just from a procedural standpoint, can the GOP remove Trump from the ticket after he's been nominated?

IE if he is deemed to have severe cognitive decline since the convention?

Not asking if it would, or should happen, just trying to understand if it's even possible.

 

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

My conspiracy theory is that they are riding Trump's pull with MAGA to get the win then they'll use the 25th amendment to replace him with Vance after the inauguration. 

Then Vance can implement Project 2025.

 

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

MAGA.  They would see it as a sign of The Deep State.  If they show up to vote at all, it’ll be for RFK, or possibly even Harris as a fuck you to the GOP.

Hell, they will just write him in.

 

38 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

I'm pretty confident that Trump could voluntarily step down if he wanted to. But I don't think there is a way for the party to make him do that at this point.

 

36 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Yeah, but Trump voters see him as Dear Leader. If the party removes him, they will lose the only people still voting for them.

 

37 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


Trump yes men see Trump as a means to an end. They're not wedded to him personally. If they see Vance as a much younger, more focused, more energetic way to get what they want. they'll dump Trump in a heartbeat.

If we are going to go full machiavellian conspiracy theory, the play would be for these people to arrange for Trump to be assassinated and then proclaim it was Kamala and have that reinforced by the conservative information machine.  They don't have to deal with the Trump albatross, they don't have to convince a malignant narcissist to suddenly think of someone other than themselves and most/all of Trump's thrall over the MAGA base would transfer to Vance in their outrage over dear leader being assassinated.  Vance could nominate Nikki Haley and the R ticket would be a lot more palatable to centrists.  Then if/when they win the election, the outrage over Trump's assassination by democrats would "justify" project 2025 and worse.

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If we are going to go full machiavellian conspiracy theory, the play would be for these people to arrange for Trump to be assassinated and then proclaim it was Kamala and have that reinforced by the conservative information machine.  They don't have to deal with the Trump albatross, they don't have to convince a malignant narcissist to suddenly think of someone other than themselves and most/all of Trump's thrall over the MAGA base would transfer to Vance in their outrage over dear leader being assassinated.  Vance could nominate Nikki Haley and the R ticket would be a lot more palatable to centrists.  Then if/when they win the election, the outrage over Trump's assassination by democrats would "justify" project 2025 and worse.

So the Clone Wars?

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Posted
2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

There's something else I don't know much about. I was wondering last night if Musk has lost that seemingly huge number of people that sorta worshipped him (overstatement, but you know what I mean). I guess I should say to what extent. I know he's grown unpopular after taking over Twitter. 

What is the status of his large following?

Musk, several years ago, came to the proverbial fork in the road….and chose poorly.

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32 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


Terminally online weirdos. 

If only. 

4 minutes ago, bluto said:

That Texas poll seems a bit junky, was heavy dem lean. Trump will win Tx by just as much if not more than 20. 

You think Trump wins Texas by 20? Am I understanding that correctly? The state he only won by 5.5% last time? 

Trump is going to win Texas, he's just going to win Texas by  3%, imo. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, bluto said:

That Texas poll seems a bit junky, was heavy dem lean. Trump will win Tx by just as much if not more than 20. 

That poll had 46% of the respondents with a bachelor’s and they were +22 Trump?

Thats wholly unrealistic 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, bluto said:

That Texas poll seems a bit junky, was heavy dem lean. Trump will win Tx by just as much if not more than 20. 

That's literally the same percentage as the poll--~6% (53-47 in the poll and 52-46 in 2020). 

Posted
2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

If only. 

You think Trump wins Texas by 20? Am I understanding that correctly? The state he only won by 5.5% last time? 

Trump is going to win Texas, he's just going to win Texas by  3%, imo. 

No he means 2020. Not 20 points lol

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