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11 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

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Never mind the realities!  Even water from the southern Central Valley would still require pumps uphill to get to the LA area.  To the best of my knowledge, such pumping stations don't exist.  This idiot actually thinks valves and pumps controlling water heading downhill into the SF Bay area could just magically be diverted to LA, doesn't he?

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On 1/23/2025 at 6:34 PM, SubliminalHorn said:

Ok Obama would kick his ass in an election 

Which is precisely why Ogles drafted it in such a way that would preclude Obama from running: they all know that he would fucking steamroll Trump

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good for them. for now. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/costco-shareholders-reject-anti-dei-proposal-2025-1

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Costco shareholders on Thursday roundly rejected a proposal from a conservative think tank to report on the potential risks of the company's diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.

An "overwhelming margin" of 98% of shares voted against the measure in the preliminary results, Costco said.

"The overwhelming support of our shareholders' vote really puts an answer to that question," CEO Ron Vachris said following the news, also citing a statement from the board in defense of the policies.

 

i mean...can CostCo be bullied? i wouldn't think so, but i don't even know anymore.

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4 minutes ago, mchookem said:

report on the potential risks of the company's diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.

What does report on the potential risk mean? What specifically was being ask for? If the shareholders voted against even assessing the risks and the outcomes of the programs, that is a pretty right out repudiation of the proposal. What think tank was pushing the vote? 

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3 hours ago, McCroskey said:

Can you name me a point in time where the world wasn't fucked up?    I don't like Hegseth either but the hyperbole year after year after year gets to be a bit much.

Biden is the worst president ever. Handling of the CA fires is a disaster. Kamala is the worst candidate ever. America has never been in worse shape. The press are enemies of the state. The former head of the joint chiefs should be hanged. Need I go on?

You're right about the abuse of the hyperbole. Now go fuck yourself, soul-less amateur operative.

 

ETA: I don't know of many times when people knowingly elected for a fucked-up world. And, by fucked-up, I mean needlessly cruel and hateful with a nice mix of reality-denial. 

It's always been bad is not a reason to ignore what is making the world worse. You have chosen objectively foul policies created by foul men whose shortcomings glare in your eyes.

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6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What does report on the potential risk mean? What specifically was being ask for? If the shareholders voted against even assessing the risks and the outcomes of the programs, that is a pretty right out repudiation of the proposal. What think tank was pushing the vote? 

i dunno, but feel free to ask

 

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Reuters says it's NCPPR

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Costco Wholesale shareholders voted strongly against a proposal requesting a report on the risks of maintaining its diversity and inclusion initiatives, the U.S. company said on Thursday, sending a message running counter to the intense scrutiny many such corporate policies face.

The vote was seen as an early test of investor views about the value of corporate diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs, which many companies added or beefed up starting in 2020 amid the Black Lives Matter movement.

More than 98% of the shareholders voted against it at the annual meeting, Costco said.

Last year, shareholder resolutions at U.S. corporations looking to counter DEI programs and other corporate social considerations garnered less than 2% support on average.

Lindsey Stewart, director of stewardship research and policy for Morningstar Sustainalytics, said the similar result at Costco "suggests that even if the political environment on inclusion in the workplace is changing, investors' low propensity to support anti-DEI resolutions is thus far unchanged."

President Donald Trump has issued an executive order that directed government agency chiefs to dismantle DEI policies at federal agencies, federal contractors and in the private sector.

He has also suggested that some companies will face investigations and legal action if their programs are deemed to be discriminatory.

The proposal at Costco came from the National Center for Public Policy Research, which describes itself as a free-market think tank and had asked the company to assess the potential business risks related to its DEI policies.

The group, which did not immediately comment on the result, contended that such efforts could pose legal, reputational, and financial risks, potentially impacting shareholder returns.

Costco's board, which urged votes against the proposal, said the report would not provide "meaningful additional information" to shareholders.

Companies such as Meta Platforms (META.O), opens new tab, Amazon.com (AMZN.O), opens new tab, JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N), opens new tab and Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab have modified their initiatives, scrapped their DEI goals or ended participation in the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's corporate equity index. But only now are most shareholders getting a chance to weigh in on such matters.

The membership-only retailer has more than 300,000 employees globally and about 219,000 in the United States, according to its 2024 annual report.The membership-only retailer has more than 300,000 employees globally and about 219,000 in the United States, according to its 2024 annual report

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9 minutes ago, mchookem said:

Reuters says it's NCPPR

Yeah, a few of the SEC filings on the Costco website indicate the same. If the tone of the two SEC filings are consistent with the reporting proposal, it makes a whole lot of sense why 98% voted it down. I wish I still held COST. I moved out of a COVID era position prior to run up in 2024, but I think that is a really well run company. 

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50 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Asked them to assess only the risks, and not the benefits?

I can write the risk report 

Fat orange man may call you out for a boycott by his cult. 

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4 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Hey, good news:

 

And his moron cult will believe it. This is just a straight up made up fantasy. But he will claim to have done something and that’s all that matters to the right. 

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Jan 24 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump fired 17 independent watchdogs at multiple government agencies on Friday, a person with knowledge of the matter said, eliminating a critical oversight component and clearing the way to replace them with loyalists.

The inspectors general at agencies including the departments of state, defense and transportation were notified by emails from the White House personnel director that they had been terminated immediately, the source said on condition of anonymity.

The dismissals appeared to violate federal law, which requires the president to give both houses of Congress reasons for the dismissals 30 days in advance.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

An inspector general is an independent position that conducts audits and investigations into allegations of waste, fraud and abuse of power.

Agencies are pressing ahead with orders from Trump, who returned to the presidency on Monday, to reshape the federal bureaucracy by scrapping diversity programs, rescinding job offers and sidelining more than 150 national security and foreign policy officials.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-fires-least-12-independent-inspectors-general-washington-post-reports-2025-01-25/

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10 hours ago, 27-25 said:

Never mind the realities!  Even water from the southern Central Valley would still require pumps uphill to get to the LA area.  To the best of my knowledge, such pumping stations don't exist.  This idiot actually thinks valves and pumps controlling water heading downhill into the SF Bay area could just magically be diverted to LA, doesn't he?

Well, while he has oversimplified, Los Angeles has been pumping water from the Central Valley since the early 1900s.

Check out William Mulholland.

Central Valley farmers have been bitching about it for decades, which maybe indicates it's not so easy to get it from parts north.  Regardless, there's no unlimited water anywhere.

The most distressing thing about all of this is that Trump wants do disregard endangered species here and in many drilling situations.

Also, the federal government has or should have almost no control over California's water, or any other state's.  The hook here is preserving endangered species and their habitat.  One argument you could make there is that we're all endangered species considering what we're doing to our own habitat.  But that's not something they believe in.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

One argument you could make there is that we're all endangered species considering what we're doing to our own habitat.  But that's not something they believe in.

It's something they don't believe in until it's politically expedient to, then magically it'll be the Democrats fault that were in this mess

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Well, while he has oversimplified, Los Angeles has been pumping water from the Central Valley since the early 1900s.
Check out William Mulholland.
Central Valley farmers have been bitching about it for decades, which maybe indicates it's not so easy to get it from parts north.  Regardless, there's no unlimited water anywhere.
The most distressing thing about all of this is that Trump wants do disregard endangered species here and in many drilling situations.
Also, the federal government has or should have almost no control over California's water, or any other state's.  The hook here is preserving endangered species and their habitat.  One argument you could make there is that we're all endangered species considering what we're doing to our own habitat.  But that's not something they believe in.

But that’s not even the hook here. Yes, SOCAL has been drinking the Owens Valley water forever. But what HE is talking about is a totally separate basin in Northern California. They aren’t hydrologically connected….and California is a big fucking state. It’s as dumb as saying “why is San Angelo so dry? Texas has a bazillion gallons of water in lake Toledo Bend, just turn the valve!”
Different basins. Different elevations. Gravity. Cost.
Water has been a critical resource in the west for over a century. This complete and utter dumbfuck thinks he’s the first guy to even have the THOUGHT of “hey, get some water from abundant areas and send it to dry areas!” There’s a reason that we don’t have a pipeline from Toledo Bend to San Angelo, or from Oregon to LA.
But of course, “nobody knows more about water than me!” he says. And people like @mccroskey eat it up.
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54 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The most distressing thing about all of this is that Trump wants do disregard endangered species here and in many drilling situations.

Also, the federal government has or should have almost no control over California's water, or any other state's.  The hook here is preserving endangered species and their habitat.  One argument you could make there is that we're all endangered species considering what we're doing to our own habitat.  But that's not something they believe in.

Speaking of endangered species, here is a link on the proposal to place the monarch butterfly on the list. The deadline for comments will be here all too soon (March 12, 2025): https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-12-12/pdf/2024-28855.pdf   be aware--this is not a short read, so you may wish to skip to how to submit comments with the info below...

Some more info

The proposal to list the monarch butterfly, and designate critical habitat, will publish in the Federal Register on December 12, 2024. A 90-day comment period will open on December 12, 2024, and will close on March 12, 2025. Information about how to submit comments can be found on regulations.gov by searching for docket number FWS-R3-ES-2024-0137. This docket also includes information about how to attend two virtual public information meetings, and associated public hearings, about this listing proposal. 

We are woefully behind when it comes to protection of species (lol, including our own). By the time things move to this stage, so much damage has been done. Pollinator numbers are crashing everywhere and yet we seem to think some of our food crops will just bloom and grow without them--when over 80% of flowering species need pollinators for reproduction.

Anecdotally, I've certainly witnessed the decline as I have butterfly weed all over the garden. Numbers of adult monarchs and caterpillars have been way down and what is worse is that due to a longer warm season, the ones that arrive to feast and lay eggs are coming quite late and then the offspring cannot emerge from the chrysalis in time to migrate. I used to cut the weed down in the fall to encourage migration, but now it's a matter of just keeping some alive in the hopes that a percentage make it to Mexico. The western monarch (overwinters in California) is at a 95% chance of extinction while the eastern monarch is at a 56-75% chance.

Not great to know that the monarch, while an iconic butterfly to most people and readily identified, is likely one of many many species that will disappear in our lifetime.

 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

The most distressing thing about all of this is that Trump wants do disregard endangered species here and in many drilling situations.

Like every Republican before him since at least George HW Bush if not Reagan. 

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32 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Well, I now know the name of one of the people in this photo

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Nice catch. I never noticed who the dunces were, just the stupidity of the chyron. 

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A bunch of inspectors general were fired overnight in contravention of federal regulations. 
 

nah he’s not looking to remove oversight and accountability…. 

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9 minutes ago, retread said:

Canada is above CA on the map, and water flows from higher points to lower point. That's his understanding of the problem.

It’s that simple. He’s a fucking moron. 

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17 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I think the C-17 will be used for one or two photo ops because it makes everybody feel macho to see anything military. Vicarious manliness for Trump and his voters. Then they switch to trains or cheaper flight.

Who knows, maybe Trump Airline will re-arise to take the contract.

Cattle cars.

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1 hour ago, troph said:

A bunch of inspectors general were fired overnight in contravention of federal regulations. 
 

nah he’s not looking to remove oversight and accountability…. 

I expect Congress to assert their power as  a co-equal branch of government post haste!

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1 hour ago, retread said:

Canada is above CA on the map, and water flows from higher points to lower point. That's his understanding of the problem.

Imagine trying to explain to him that some rivers flow north. 

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, while he has oversimplified, Los Angeles has been pumping water from the Central Valley since the early 1900s.

Check out William Mulholland.

Central Valley farmers have been bitching about it for decades, which maybe indicates it's not so easy to get it from parts north.  Regardless, there's no unlimited water anywhere.

The most distressing thing about all of this is that Trump wants do disregard endangered species here and in many drilling situations.

Also, the federal government has or should have almost no control over California's water, or any other state's.  The hook here is preserving endangered species and their habitat.  One argument you could make there is that we're all endangered species considering what we're doing to our own habitat.  But that's not something they believe in.

I think someone else also brought this up, but LA gets some of its water from the Owens Valley.  Technically not the Central Valley since I think it lies just to the east of the crest of the High Sierras and generally slopes to the south.  There may be some other water projects of which I'm not aware, but Mullholland was best known for draining the Owens Valley dry.

But as we sit here and have a rational discussion about the particulars we might lose sight of the fact that TFG actually believes there's a twist valve somewhere that will magically divert limitless water from Canada to LA.  It's just evil politicians in CA that are preventing it for some unknown reason.  I wish everyone on the board the best of luck that we, and the country, survive this era.  God help us all.

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2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Anyone want to tell him about drought?

Well, he's married to Melania so he knows a thing or two about dry nether regions.

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2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Welp, no more airplanes for me for a while

 

Maga Republicans don't give a fuck.  Six months from now when planes start falling out of the sky, half the country will blame DEI and the other half won't even know or care it happened because they'll be too consumed with deportations or the upcoming war with Denmark, or whatever fresh hell maga comes up with next.

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Sorry if already posted. Here are the IG's removed. Furk.

But agencies and departments whose watchdogs were said to have been removed included the departments of agriculture, commerce, defense, education, housing and urban development, interior, labor, transportation and veterans affairs, along with the Environmental Protection Agency and the Small Business Administration.

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13 hours ago, hookem2010 said:

There is a tipping point, and our technology is nowhere near where it needs to be to save us from ecological catastrophe. In fact, those at the controls of cutting edge technology appear most concerned with hoarding wealth or consolidating power rather than helping their fellow man or planet in any way.

our president is going to sign an EO to activate a non-existent water infrastructure to save the southland

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1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

our president is going to sign an EO to activate a non-existent water infrastructure to save the southland

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So, it the non-existent water does not save LA from fire I guess it's Gavin's fault.  Got it.

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