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On 3/9/2025 at 4:09 PM, Satchel said:

Or it could be that there are very obvious similarities between Trumpism and Nazism. 

One wonders if the legal community in 1930s Germany was also bullied into silence?
 

Fear of Trump Has Elite Law Firms in Retreat - The Wall Street Journal.

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

 

Saw clips last night. 

 

There was no way Kamala was wining with those people. They are completely lost. I don’t know how you get those voters back. 

Someone on one of the socials said the people in these clips should be making iced lattes and doing theatre not arguing for fascism 

 

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

Electing Obama president broke us.

The rise of social media broke us more.

Russian disinformation having free reign through said social media and now actual news outlets broke us even more.

COVID broke us even more.

The result.....is that this is all that's left:

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We are hopelessly shattered.  And all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put us back together again.

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The occupation of Canada would quickly become a continent-wide, high-intensity modern war akin to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. It would rapidly devolve into a higher-intensity insurgency, which could lead to the deaths of thousands on both sides. Any operation would most likely collapse the American economy and precipitate a violent Second American Civil War.

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50 minutes ago, Pancho said:

There was no way Kamala was wining with those people. They are completely lost. I don’t know how you get those voters back. 

Someone on one of the socials said the people in these clips should be making iced lattes and doing theatre not arguing for fascism 

 

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

Concentration of wealth via the Reagan Revolution, repeal of The Fairness Doctrine, 1996 Telecommunications Act, and the internet were the biggest straws. 

Dems were tasked (due in part to their short sighted Republican Lite strategy) with a burden akin to convincing Sooners to be Horns. 

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's fucking nuts.

And, about as likely as anything to come from this administration.  Holy fuck.

Yes and with the competence of this administration they will likely cross the Guadalupe and invade Gruene then march up north to capture Canadian, TX in the panhandle.

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5 hours ago, LCHorn said:

The biggest long-term problem is, in my opinion, the lurch from GOP to DEM every election that I’d expect from citizen unrest (because the media environment has created a “whoever is in power sucks” malaise among the slice of the electorate that decides non-gerrymandered elections).  

I don’t know what the solution is, either, aside from some kind of armistice between parties that lets them carve up power so that less partisan candidates candidates can be successful.  

Ranked choice voting fixes this

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

So much this. It completely broke a TON of people. I don’t get it, but it did. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Considering its from August I'd say its real. 

Yeah, that was the point of posting it.  I didn't think it was current, FFS.

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

To this, here’s some pure fascist rhetoric on Fox News.  

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7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No idea if it's real, don't care:

May be an image of text that says 'Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump STOCK MARKETS ARE CRASHING JOBS NUMBERS ARE TERRIBLE, WE ARE HEADING TO WORLD WAR , AND WE HAVE TWO OF THE MOST INCOMPETENT "LEADERS' HISTORY. THIS IS NOT GOOD!!! IN 13k ReTruths 43.5k Likes Aug 05, 2024 at 5:12 Aug05,2024at5:12AM AM'

This is what I can't wrap my head around.  I get that if something is repeated enough times it becomes fact, but how are they not able to recognize that Fox is now telling them that what they were told was the death knell of the US just a few months ago is now great?

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2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

 

This is what I can't wrap my head around.  I get that if something is repeated enough times it becomes fact, but how are they not able to recognize that Fox is now telling them that what they were told was the death knell of the US just a few months ago is now great?

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Electing Obama president broke us.

The rise of social media broke us more.

Russian disinformation having free reign through said social media and now actual news outlets broke us even more.

COVID broke us even more.

The result.....is that this is all that's left:

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We are hopelessly shattered.  And all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put us back together again.

 

clinton led to rush limbaugh led to newt gingrich - contract with america led to rise of fox news led to .....

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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

You start by forcing Social Media to police itself. Allow rampant bots and misinformation posting on our website? Massive fucking fines. Multiple transgressions? Charges against executives.

Yep. See Brazil and X last fall. But better.

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6 hours ago, Red Five said:

Trump said the transgender mice thing during the state of the union speech. All the republicans laughed and cheered. 

I know it's not feasible, but the democratic rebuttal to his speech should have just been a series of fact checks. Probably time restrictions there though.

Fact checking does not matter. Waste of time

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49 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Ranked choice voting fixes this

Maybe?  I tend to think the electorate’s disfunction has bled into leadership rather than the other way around (not trying to both sides, this is clearly more of a GOP problem.  That said, the Dems went after a big tent and the sub-groups aren’t aligned anymore).  
 

I do think Trump is almost the perfect embodiment and has the resume for an electorate addicted to the sugar high of trolling and outrage.  My one source of hope over the short-term is no one else seems able to corral his constituency.  

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

You’re not wrong.

 

Unfortunately, we will collectively deal with the trauma very slowly. This country has little real introspection. The bitchass, insecure insistence on American Exceptionalism shields critical thought, as does the hobbled public education system. It’s a real pickle. 

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Something else to consider is that we are on year 10 of Trump. 10 years of giving Americans a reason to let their worst selves out. How old were those 20 people when Trump was running for the first time? Dude has changed our country, in horrific ways.

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Here’s another one
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I can’t find it now but he DEFINITELY posted that if the Dow drops 1,000 in a week, the sitting President should be IMPEACHED.
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Posted
3 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Yikes. Just incredible how their minds think, although that might not be the right word for it.

The fact check on the trans question he had for the gay guy that wouldn't answer it was that ~4700 kids used puberty blockers over that 4 year period and only .1% of the patients in that study were transgender. Meaning, the issue is so miniscule, that it is statistically irrelevant. That was Sam's point that he didn't get to finish.  

So hard to listen to. I did see a couple of common threads or mindsets:

1. Every person should be responsible for themselves and no other person should be responsible for any other.  This goes to the huge problem conservatives have with the government using their tax dollars to help other people.

2. Religion is required to form a moral foundation.

I also saw a lot of opinions that were based on provably false premises.  It's like if a person was presented with two alternatives, one being true and the other being false, but what the person wanted to believe, they would go with the false one every time.

None of this is surprising or different from what most of us already know. Seeing this just reinforced it.

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10 minutes ago, scottsins said:

I can’t find it now but he DEFINITELY posted that if the Dow drops 1,000 in a week, the sitting President should be IMPEACHED.

well i hope you're certain. because if you make one false claim then everything anyone has ever said about anything is definitely a lie.

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3 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Concentration of wealth via the Reagan Revolution, repeal of The Fairness Doctrine, 1996 Telecommunications Act, and the internet were the biggest straws. 

Dems were tasked (due in part to their short sighted Republican Lite strategy) with a burden akin to convincing Sooners to be Horns. 

Guess I should throw in Citizens United in there but it's almost trivial in that concentration of wealth (or "success") is a vice defined as a virtue that makes at least 3 of the other 4 possible. It's a cancer that left unchecked, as we obviously have, destroys the ability of people to have a say as to what kind of world they live in. 

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2 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

So hard to listen to. I did see a couple of common threads or mindsets:

1. Every person should be responsible for themselves and no other person should be responsible for any other.  This goes to the huge problem conservatives have with the government using their tax dollars to help other people.

2. Religion is required to form a moral foundation.

I also saw a lot of opinions that were based on provably false premises.  It's like if a person was presented with two alternatives, one being true and the other being false, but what the person wanted to believe, they would go with the false one every time.

None of this is surprising or different from what most of us already know. Seeing this just reinforced it.

I was taught that in evangelical Bible studies/camps as a teenager. Part of their reinforcement methods for some kids is to send them to philosophical crash courses on how to debate against other religions, and in particular atheism and humanism since they are on the rise in the US.  It's not a bad idea if you actually want kids to explore the ideas and fundamentals of your religion and morals, but the problem for them is that the smarter ones that do more research will go read the counter arguments and learn how shakey that foundation actually is.  

I remember at the one I attended a few times was called Worldview Academy, which was an evangelical Christian fundamentalist camp. One of the counter arguments they would trot out every year was that "humans are flawed, and cannot come up with a moral code on their own, so it's required that you obtain your morals from an external/non-human source." And then they go Ah HA! THE BIBLE IS THE ANSWER!  You can see how that fails to hold up under scrutiny from a number of ways, but this was what they drilled into kids heads. They would say, "Atheists claim there are no absolutes... but that itself is an absolute!!!" And then laugh at how they have just unraveled the entirety of atheism's core belief structure. At the end of the week, they would have some straw man atheist (played by one of the camp teachers)  who would come and "debate" the class who would ask questions about his beliefs.  He would, of course, fall into the philosophical traps that they taught you about at the camp. It was basically trying to set up gotcha moments, but only if you didn't bother looking at any other information beyond what they spoonfed you. 

I remember the Islam section focused on the person that Muhammad was, and had the claim about him marrying a 9 year old girl, which of course invalidates him as a moral person. This of course, completely ignores all the immoral things that heroes of the Bible did that can be found directly in THE BIBLE. But you know, that doesn't count, because... reasons.  

Anyways, a lot of this sort of stuff I learned in the late 90s before the Internet and Youtube were a thing has now been outsourced to people like Ben Shapiro, Crowder and other talk show/podcast guys who can reach a large audience. They go into much more political discussion, reinforce it with "smackdown" type videos, and radicalize these kids to their belief system, and those 20 people in that video are the result of it. Completely lost in an echo chamber of their own beliefs, unable to listen to a single person discussing a different view, and just simply restating their own beliefs over and over and over as if that makes their arguments valid.
Like a black guy arguing that DEI is bad, but cannot understand a person plainly explaining the difference between non-discrimination hiring practices (good) and racial quotas (bad).
Or a gay guy arguing that trans people can't be in the military, because they might have medicines that might require refrigeration.
Or a white woman arguing that there should be a "dominant culture" that everyone who "comes here" should assimilate to, instead of keeping their own beliefs, language and customs. (she also said Trump wasn't conservative enough because he didn't cancel all the H1B Visa holders and send them back)
They have gone off the edge, and the only thing that will possibly change it is a massive disruption to their current lifestyle or someone close to them. 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Holy shit, Trump literally posted 248 times today on Truth Social

One of those was about egg prices.

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12 hours ago, speed817 said:

Just watched it this morning.....oh boy......

 

Go watch The Majority Report on YouTube if you haven't. I haven't kept up as much since Michael Brooks passed, but Sam is literally the best person to debate idiots like these. Dumbass libertarians would constantly call into his show and he would eat them alive. Sam was my gateway into actually discovering my politics and moral compass in 2015.

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6 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Yikes. Just incredible how their minds think, although that might not be the right word for it.

The fact check on the trans question he had for the gay guy that wouldn't answer it was that ~4700 kids used puberty blockers over that 4 year period and only .1% of the patients in that study were transgender. Meaning, the issue is so miniscule, that it is statistically irrelevant. That was Sam's point that he didn't get to finish.  

There’s a few surly posters in there for sure. I’ll let yall figure out who’s who.

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19 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Sam was my gateway into actually discovering my politics and moral compass in 2015.

 

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45 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

They would say, "Atheists claim there are no absolutes... but that itself is an absolute!!!"

Only a Sith deals in absolutes. 

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Social Security has never missed a benefit payment since the program first began sending individuals monthly benefits more than eight decades ago.

But the recent actions at the U.S. Social Security Administration by Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency are putting monthly benefit checks for more than 72.5 million Americans at risk, former commissioner and former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley told CNBC.com.

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse and an interruption of benefits,” O’Malley said. “I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days.”

Ahead of any interruption in benefits, “people should start saving now,” O’Malley said.

If this won’t get the attention of the 95% of West Virginians who voted for Trump, nothing will.

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On 3/8/2025 at 11:05 AM, Brisketexan said:


He would happily kill you dead if he thought it would get him .000001% more praise. And what makes it worse is that it’s not even personal, or for some principled reason 

Trump doesn't have the stones to kill someone dead. 

like the paul castellano of mafia bosses. 

He would have someone do it for him... never for himself.

Big gaping orange pussy

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

 

Social Security has never missed a benefit payment since the program first began sending individuals monthly benefits more than eight decades ago.

But the recent actions at the U.S. Social Security Administration by Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency are putting monthly benefit checks for more than 72.5 million Americans at risk, former commissioner and former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley told CNBC.com.

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse and an interruption of benefits,” O’Malley said. “I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days.”

Ahead of any interruption in benefits, “people should start saving now,” O’Malley said.

If this won’t get the attention of the 95% of West Virginians who voted for Trump, nothing will.

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14 hours ago, speed817 said:

Just watched it this morning.....oh boy......

 

I went and looked up that "Trans" bill CA954 that "forces children to be taken away from parents if they don't let their kids change genders", and, you're not gonna believe this, BUT it's actually about Sex Education! The word "trans..." does not appear in it as far as I could find as a specific topic of discussion.  It does mention many times that there is a requirement to discuss STI TRANSmission among people, and how to avoid STIs.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB954

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Canceling sex ed for high schoolers is pure brilliance.

While it may not initially make a lick of sense to the laity, this isn't just some ignorant bullshit righties came up with on their own - there's at least a biblical basis for this. Jesus was always advocating against human reproduction education (so everyone wouldn't think his mom was insane). 

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